As much as Trump's a lying, crooked, narcissistic POS...
Don't expect the die hard Trumpanzees to hold any of that against him. AS a matter of fact, they admire his lies, his corruption, even his incompetence and his utter unfitness to be President.
They're going to happily accept all of that in him, but only for as long as their delusions persist that he's not fucking them over. If they believe that he's only negatively impacting the people that they don't like, they'll support him.
But when they only realize that they're in this leaking boat with the rest of us, they'll turn on him, or will at the very least, become temporarily disappointed in him. We're dealing with some dim bulbs here... If the light ever comes on, it won't be that bright.
So, some things to consider:
- They're not very compassionate. They couldn't care less about us, even when they realize that he's screwing them over as well. They're rather insult us than find common ground. One other thing: The negative characterization that they have of us is more real to them than reality itself. If they don't know who we are, they'll just make something up and attack that.
- They're selectively observant. They depend mostly on confirmation bias in order to get informed. Since the right wing has a vast amount of disinformation sources from which they're brainwashed to form their opinions, don't expect them to see it right away when Trump hoses them. Those sources will use plenty of deflection in order to keep them from seeing it.
- They're angry. They don't even know why they're angry. They just are and it really hurts their brains to ponder why. Instead, they'd rather lash out at their perceived enemies and disregard the fact that it isn't doing them any favors.
- They hate answering simple and obvious questions like, "Do you believe that Donald Trump lies?" They're much too busy focusing on targets that they hate, especially ones who've been identified in RWNJ media, than they are of the people they're supposed to support.
- They support Trump because they've been told to support him by the RWNJ. This is clear as day because, they all project like an IMAX projector. When they tell us that we support the people that we support, ONLY because we've been TOLD to support them, they're projecting their own thinking processes onto us. It's easier to do that for them than it is to research Trump, find good things about him and back him because of them. Instead, they just point to his facade of being some rich, successful businessman and then jump on that bandwagon.
- It's quite clear that they have very little understanding of the function of government, the press and civil society. That's not their fault, it's everyone's fault unfortunately. I don't know how we can fix that.
There's some more, but all in all, these are some really horrible people. True assholes.
Now the real deal is separating the unredeemable assholes from people who were merely misguided when they voted for Trump. I really have no idea how to quantify their numbers from the percentage of complete assholes. But I will say that there are a LOT of assholes.
The misguided ones won't resort to instant assholism right away, but will resort to it if they feel as if they're being attacked. Since it's all about feelings for them, many will react as if they're being attacked, even when they aren't. The assholes will revert to a defensive mode right off the bat. After all, they have all of these delusions in their head and they'll simply believe that you're one of their bogeymen.
Some of my ways to get around that:
- I don't give a fuck about their insults. They don't resemble me. so I don't care.
- Ask questions. The simpler, the better. We're not dealing with Einsteins here.
- They all hate to read large paragraphs. So when I want them to go away, I give them a wall of words. When they get repeatedly walls of words, they eventually get the message and go away.
- If you're on a site that allows you to block trolls, block them. Alert on them, if you can as well.
- Don't try to convince them of anything, because it won't work.
- But last, but not least, SUGGEST to them that Trump will eventually fuck them over. One example to use is the fact that students of his "University" trusted him to teach them real estate and he fucked them over. Hence, a $25 million settlement that he owes them now. Also point out that he has stiffed working men and women over contracting work that they have done for him. Basically, everyone who has put their trust in him has gotten fucked over BY him.
One thing that you can do with that information is to rhetorically ask them why they think that they're any different. Just leave them with that one thought.
You're not going to win any arguments with them. But then, it's early enough right now where they can start looking for the point where they should change their minds.
This is an incomplete list and it's all I have for now. If you have any suggestions, I'd appreciate them.
FDT.
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Welcome to DU!! 
And yes, confusion will be the first sign that they should re-evaluate their positions. Most won't and continue their blind support.
