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http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/ted-lieu-no-vote-on-gorsuch-or-other-trump-nominees-until-we-know-whether-presidency-is-legitimate/#.WOFqetiSlQw.facebookTed Lieu: No vote on Gorsuch or other Trump nominees until we know whether presidency is legitimate
David Ferguson
02 Apr 2017 at 16:47 ET
Democratic U.S. Rep. Ted Lieu (CA) lit into President Donald Trump on Sunday, questioning the legitimacy of his presidency and calling for a halt on the nomination of Supreme Court hopeful Neil Gorsuch.
In a discussion with MSNBC Live anchor Richard Lui, Lieu said that House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Devin Nunes needs to step down and pointed out that Pres. Trump can declassify the intelligence documents that the committee is viewing at any time.
The president himself can declassify these documents, Lieu said. If Trump has nothing to hide he can show the American people whats going on.
He slammed Nunes ridiculous political stunt of pretending to brief the White House on documents the White House gave him the day before.
Chairman Nunes needs to resign. This entire political stunt was intended to mislead the American people, said Lieu.
The question of Russian interference in the 2016 election, Lieu said, calls into question the legitimacy of the Trump presidency.
Lets take a step back and consider how shocking it is that the presidents associates and maybe the president himself is under investigation by the FBI for possible collusion with Russia, Lieu said. At stake is the legitimacy of the Trump administration. There needs to be a pause of whats going on. Congress should not be voting on Supreme Court and lifetime appointments or on major tax reform.
On Sunday, Trump tweeted that the House and Senate Intelligence investigation into his ties to Russia are pointless and that former Pres. Obamas alleged surveillance of Trump Towers is the real scandal.
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Lieu responded by reiterating that the federal government only surveils two kinds of people, foreign agents and criminals.
Which is it, Mr. President, he asked.
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caroldansen
(725 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Pachamama
(16,887 posts)Good on Ted Lieu for saying what needs to be said and speaking the truth...unfortunately, few will be so honest and direct and especially mentioning the elephant in the room: Comrade Trumpsky's legitimacy. His legitimacy will only become a basis when there is more investigation and criminal charges that come from the Russian hacking, meddling and collusion with Trump Campaign is revealed and comes public and there are indictments. But the reality is that we do have an illegitimate and dangerous criminal in charge of the White House and no one in Congress or Senate should aid and help this criminal.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Kudo's a-many to Lieu for speaking plain and loud. The trouble is, where's the rest of the Democrats with their outrage??? EVERY Joe Jack and Jane on the left should be outwardly LIVID that we're playing this charade as tho we have an awry but legitimate administration to try and deal with. Hell, I've got slugs in the garden that have more spine!
We need a clean and clear RESET. We sure to hell don't need Father Pence or weenie-mobile Ryan. What we DO need is someone to take the narrative over and call treason, treason - call con men, con men - call a psychopath just that and get that god damned football away from him before he lights the fuse of WW3!
Me.
(35,454 posts)As much as I would like to see all of them gone and if not that, at least the Dems standing up for us. However, if 45 goes Pence comes in and from what I've read it was Pence who steered Gorsuch in 45's direction, which makes a lot of sense.
MontanaMama
(23,314 posts)that Pence is dirty too and he's purged along with the rest of the diseased WH staff. Pence is scarier that Dump because he actually believes the crap he espouses. Dump believes whatever he's told in the last 5 minutes. Ryan - if we end up stuck with him, has lost a lot of political capital with the failure of ChumpCare. He might be rendered impotent. Fingers crossed! It might be a pipe dream but it keeps me going.
Me.
(35,454 posts)But if they get 45 out, the Cons will circle the wagons around Pence unless..........something extraordinary happens and they can't protect him.
Golden Raisin
(4,608 posts)and Schumer should.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Link to tweet
Does he really think he can get away with blaming the black guy to weasel out of his predicament?
Does he really project that much, thinking America is that racist?
I'm reminded of a small child, caught in the act and impulsively accusing someone else. However, this is clearly a strategy to politicize a criminal inquiry and borders on a crime itself, obstruction of justice. It certainly is abuse of power to falsely accuse someone of a felony, and that itself is criminal conduct of false accusation. Under law words written which impute to another the commission of a crime are known as 'per se slander' and do not required proof of damages, a slam-dunk civil action. The criminal offence of making false allegations is covered under the common law offence of perverting the course of public justice. But hey, this small child with tapping tiny fingers seems to think he is the law of the land now.
If I recall correctly, the small child who cries "so-and-so did it" doesn't fair well at the end of the day. Stopbullying.gov reports that bullies often have trouble controlling their emotions and impulses and find it hard to follow rules. You don't suppose someone childish wasn't following the rules?
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BSdetect
(8,998 posts)Yes, no scotus appointment till this shit is resolved.
kimbutgar
(21,148 posts)She is ready to be retired. We need a senator who will shake things up here in DC for California.
NBachers
(17,110 posts)NewRedDawn
(790 posts)These guys like I been saying are the Dems best chance for the Presidency! Guys Like Lieu, Schiff, Castros, Kennedy. The bench in the Congress is deep, young, & full of progressive energy!
Much more than we have in the Senate or Governors.
elmac
(4,642 posts)until he starts a nuke war somewhere. The Clown is the real IT.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)No appointment made to the USSC by any Republican holding the office of the Presidency can be legitimate.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)babylonsister
(171,065 posts)what I've been told. Three dems are voting for Gorsuch so far; we'll see how this shakes out, and what the rethugs do.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)McConnell said on MTP that Gorsuch WILL be confirmed. They're digging their heels in.
They're fairly safe on changing the rules. The next Justice who may not last till next election is Ginsburg. In which case the Repubs need only a simple majority (again).
If no justice leaves before the next election, then the Dems have a chance of naming the next Justice with a simple majority, using the Repub rules. But that's a long shot.
Sounds like the Senate is going to go for a simple majority.
humbled_opinion
(4,423 posts)financially support any Democratic Rep that votes to confirm this far right lunatic to SCOTUS, especially after the hate filled rightwingers stole President Obama's appointment of this seat to Merrick Garland. Let the nuts on the right use the nuclear option they will forever be remembered as implementing it.
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)This presidency is completely illegitimate. It is also completely insane, for that matter.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Right to the point!
JI7
(89,249 posts)they pretty much speak for me.