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https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2017/04/04/every-story-i-have-read-about-trump-supporters-in-the-past-week/?utm_term=.550d4bb18ef8Every story I have read about Trump supporters in the past week
By Alexandra Petri April 4 at 8:13 PM
Since Donald Trumps approval rating now looks like something that got stuck to the bottom of my shoe, I joined the flood of journalists who went to Real America to gloat see how the Trump supporters are getting along.
In the shadow of the old flag factory, Craig Slabornik sits whittling away on a rusty nail, his only hobby since the plant shut down. He is an American like millions of Americans, and he has no regrets about pulling the lever for Donald Trump in November twice, in fact, which Craig says is just more evidence of the voter fraud plaguing the country. Craig is a contradiction, but he does not know it.
Each morning he arrives at the Blue Plate Diner and tries to make sense of it all. The regulars are already there. Lydia Borkle lives in an old shoe in the tiny town of Tempe Work Only, Ariz., where the factory has just rusted away into a pile of gears and dust. The jobs were replaced by robots, not shipped overseas, but try telling Lydia that. (I did, very slowly and patiently, I thought, but she still became quite brusque.) Her one lifeline was an Obama-era jobs training program, but she says that she does not regret her vote for Trump and likes what he says about business. She makes a point of telling me that she is not racist, but I think she probably is, a little.
Next to her sits Linda Blarnik. Like the rusty hubcaps hanging on the wall behind her, she was made in America 50 years ago, back when this town made things, a time she still remembers fondly. She says she has had just enough of the coastal elitist media who keep showing up to write mean things about my town and my life, like that thing just now where you said I was like a hubcap, yes you, stop writing I can see over your shoulder. Mournfully a whistle blows behind her, the whistle of a train that does not stop in this America any longer.
Lindas sister, Carla Blarnik is married to an undocumented immigrant yet voted for Trump, who has vowed an increase in deportations. Asked to explain this contradiction, she shrugs. Do not tell Bert this, she says, but I have been trying to find an unobtrusive way to break up the marriage for years and this seemed like just the loophole I was waiting for. Huh. Okay.
Their waiter is David Mattress, a sentient robot who will be shut down if Trumps budget is put into practice. He loves Trump, insofar as love is possible for him. When asked Dont you realize the contradiction of this position? the other regulars leap up and shout at me because the last time this question was posed to him, David short-circuited and emitted large quantities of smoke. First that magazine writer, Linda scolds me, gesturing to a table in the corner where six other journalists sit writing versions of this same article, now you.
Mark Hooglats lives inside Obamacare, dont ask him how. He voted for Trump. He will vote for Trump again, maybe up to 10 times if he does the thing with the economy. He is excited that Trump has said God out loud for what he believes is the first time in the past eight years. (It isnt.)
In the corner, under a picture of George Washington that is cracked and broken and stained with tobacco juice, lies Herm Slabornik. Herm is encased in a cryogenic tube which will be unplugged if Trump gets his way. According to a note on his cryotube, he knows what Trump said about unplugging tubes but he does not think Trump would unplug him personally. He will vote for Trump again in 2020, provided he is not unplugged. Also, he hates Obamacare.
Glom Pfeffernitz lives in a rusty kettle. Trumps plan will definitely repossess his kettle, but he does not believe me when I tell him this. I just dont think hed do that, Glom repeats. Gloms priority is filling the lakes with waste because he remembers when he was a kid and the lakes used to glow, and he wants to get back to those great days. He says his No. 1 priority is keeping telephones away from the undeserving poor. Is everyone here messing with me?
Claudia Barknappen, the owner of the diner, wipes her hands on her faded God Bless America Apron. She is taken aback to see that Trumps budget would replace her home with a sinkhole, but she says that she is reserving judgment and likes how much he hates immigrants. Weve got to give him a chance, she observes. She says that one time Trump showed up at her home and hit her dog with a broom, but in her mind this amounts to no more than one strike. She knows that she can change Trump with love, not that he needs to change at all. Behind her, an eagle falls out of a tree and dies.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)But people like these tRumputin supporters, and those in Tulsa Oklahoma which Stephanie Miller spoke of and read about are THOROUGHLY deplorable.
I could care LESS about them. It's OBVIOUS they don't care about this country or anybody else, because this mess of a criminally installed presidency is in free fall, and falling FAST.
babylonsister
(171,059 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)Honestly, Bernie ought to stop with the rhetoric that Democrats needs to beg, plead and appeal to deplorables (He calls them "working class" people who Hillary Clinton 'allegedly' didn't appeal to hard enough when campaigning for the presidency last fall) like these and others who will never be all-inclusive or care about anybody else but people like themselves. I also say this as someone who is very rarely critical of Bernie, and as a person who has many friends who still are very much Bernie supporters that tell me that they're not happy with him continually saying that Dems need to "cow tow" to deplorables who voted for tRumputin. People like those in the article who are obliviously ignorant and racist.
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iluvtennis
(19,852 posts)rpannier
(24,329 posts)Where ever you live climb out of your chair and drive up to Elliott County, Kentucky. For the first time in over 100 years they voted for a Republican for President, Trump. In fact, he's about the only Republican that has ever won anything in that county. 85% of the county are registered Democrats, the majority voted Obama twice and in the 2016 US Senate race the majority voted Jim Gray, the mayor of Lexington, who also happens to be gay and almost everyone in Kentucky knows it.
Those are the people Sanders is speaking too.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)Voted for a racist, sexist, piece of shit like tRumputin who had supporters like DAVID DUKE, then I can't feel a lot of sympathy for them. I don't wish anything on them, and may God have mercy on they/their families souls. But surely they know about David Duke supporting tRumputin, and ignorance is no excuse either. I mean, who doesn't know of the kkk's past/present in our nation's history, and Duke has a history with them and is still a racist pos. I feel for those of us in blue/red states who weren't ignorant of who tRumputin really IS and who didn't vote for him who'll have to suffer because of those who were desperate and who did vote for tRumputin. The man is a con man, a pathological LIAR, racist, a sexist piece of filth who doesn't give a damn about "regular" working-class people who he's stiffed plenty of times in his business dealings with them. I mean, folks didn't know or didn't CARE that he filed for bankruptcy 6 times, or that he's had 3,500 lawsuits bought against him who won't release his taxes? They voted for THAT?
I say again that Bernie really needs to sharpen his rhetoric if he's going to talk for people like those in Elliot County KY., because the way he's saying what he's saying is not coming out the right way (To me and to long-time Bernie supporter friends as well) concerning working class Dems. He's sounding as if people in Elliot County Kentucky are the only working-class people in the Dem party who matter, and ignoring the fact that there are working-class deplorables who voted for tRumputin.
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)skypilot
(8,853 posts)Among other things, ALL of the names are a bit too weird. I stopped reading after the one woman was quoted as saying that she voted for Trump because she'd been trying to find a way to end the marriage with her undocumented husband.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)But the people from Tulsa Oklahoma I spoke of that Stephanie Miller mentioned in the NY Times article, could be interchanged with those in the satirical piece. Bernie can't make any headway with those in the article there in Tulsa. These are not good People, dumb as a bag of hammers, selfish deplorables. But hey, after their president screws them into the ground and laughs at them, oh well Some got THEIRS before the program shuts down (If it does), and to hell with others who need help. Just like a thuglican--just like a deplorable.
In Trump Country, Shock at Trump Budget Cuts, but Still Loyalty.
Nicholas Kristof APRIL 1, 2017
Rhonda McCracken voted for President Trump. Now he wants to cut funding for an organization she says saved her and her sons lives. Credit Andrea Morales for The New York Times
TULSA, Okla. Rhonda McCracken is a kindergarten teacher and a Republican who voted for President Trump. Now shes wrestling with the consequences.
McCrackens deep-rooted conservatism is matched by a passion to support Tulsa Domestic Violence Intervention Services, a nonprofit that helped her flee an ex- who she says beat and choked her, once until unconsciousness. She became teary as she described how staff members at the organization helped her and her son escape that relationship.
They saved my life, and my sons, she said, her eyes liquid.
So she is aghast that one of Trumps first proposals is to cut federal funds that sustain the organization. My prayer is that Congress will step in to protect domestic violence programs, she said.
Here in Oklahoma, Ive been interviewing many people like McCracken fervent Trump supporters who now find that the White House is trying to ax programs they have depended on, to pay for Trumps border wall and for increases in military spending. And theyre upset.
Why is building a wall more important than educating people? asked Billy Hinkle, a Trump voter who is enrolled in a program called Tulsa WorkAdvance that trains mostly unemployed workers to fill well-paying manufacturing jobs. Trump has proposed eliminating a budget pot that pays for the program.
Another Trump supporter in the program, Tarzan Vince, put it this way: If hes preaching jobs, why take away jobs?
Ezekiel Moreno, who also voted for Mr. Trump, credits a training program for his having a good job today. That program would also be hurt by the presidents budget proposal, yet Mr. Moreno, like Ms. McCracken, doesnt regret his vote.
Judy Banks, a 70-year-old struggling to get by, said she voted for Trump because he was talking about getting rid of those illegals. But Banks now finds herself shocked that he also has his sights on funds for the Labor Departments Senior Community Service Employment Program, which is her lifeline. It pays senior citizens a minimum wage to hold public service jobs. This program makes sense, said Banks, who was placed by the program into a job as a receptionist for a senior nutrition program. Banks said she depends on the job to make ends meet, and for an excuse to get out of the house.
If I lose this job, she said, Ill sit home and die.
Yet she said she might still vote for Trump in 2020. And thats a refrain I heard over and over. Some of the loyalty seemed to be grounded in resentment at Democrats for mocking Trump voters as dumb bigots, some from a belief that budgets are complicated, and some from a sense that its too early to abandon their man. They did say that if jobs didnt reappear, they would turn against him.
One recent survey found that only 3 percent of Trump voters would vote differently if the election were today (and most of those would vote for third-party candidates; only 1 percent said they would switch to voting for Hillary Clinton).
Elizabeth Hays, 27, said her life changed during her freshman year in high school, when four upperclassmen raped her. Domestic Violence Intervention Services rescued her, she said, by helping her understand that the rape wasnt her fault.
Shes profoundly grateful to the organization yet she stands by Trump even as she is dismayed that he wants to slash support for a group that helped her when she needed it most. We have to look at what we spend money on, she said, adding, I will stand behind my president.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/01/opinion/sunday/in-trump-country-shock-at-trump-budget-cuts-but-still-loyalty.html?_r=0
Warpy
(111,255 posts)The primary is over, stop trying to refight it.
This story isn't about Sanders.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)Because the candidate I wanted to win won.
What it has to do with is that Bernie really shouldn't keep trying to "normalize" deplorables like the ones interviewed in the NY Times article I posted. There's absolutely nothing wrong with what Bernie's talking about the working-class, job creation, or about making higher education affordable etc., because we need that message out there. But normalizing deplorables and saying that they got "nervous" due to job loss, the economy and that's why they voted for tRumputin even though he's an a moral, dumb, vile and racist is the wrong way to go. tRumputin mentioned amongst other ramblings that the federal minimum wage was too high at $7.25 per hour. Then he said that maybe we should do away with a minimum-wage all together. Bernie & Hillary were always talking living wage ($15.00 per hour), about job creation, health care. I'm thinking that those who got "nervous" must not have listened to or heard Bernie or Hillary's messages. Not paying close attention is on THEM, and many of them/their families will be suffering because of the choices they made when they voted for tRumputin and unfortunately, so will many of the rest of us. Something else motivated the deplorables to vote for a truly deplorable, unfit person like tRumputin for president. It surely couldn't have been his ideas to improve their lives, because he never really put any ideas out there which would have helped them improve their lives. Couldn't have been his ideas on health care--he never had any. He only wanted to repeal and replace ObamaCares with tRump/Ryan care which would have given his deplorables NOTHING as we saw with that evil, vile Don'tCare health care bill. Deplorable Don preaches hate, racism, sexism, he incites violence--and he's still trying to take this country BACK to a time & place where minorities and women had very few rights, and as working-class citizens, life could be a struggle to make ends meet. tRumputin is wholly unfit to lead this country, and it's frightening what's going on with his non-position, positions on Syria, russia and on everything. russia's running Syria's and our foreign policy. He dare not cross russia, or else.
STOP normalizing Deplorables: You can't reason with them, just like you can't reason with tRumputin--he IS a deplorable through and through, and he and his deplorables ONLY care about what's in it for THEM, and about keeping "those" others down.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)tblue37
(65,340 posts)marybourg
(12,631 posts)Tempe Work Only, Ariz
Tess49
(1,579 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,956 posts)Warpy
(111,255 posts)especially the woman who was looking for a cheaper way to dump a husband than going through all the trouble of a divorce. I have to think there are real people who are thinking like this.
That's the problem with satirizing these poor dumb SOBs, you think you've written something over the top and funny and the next day you'll read a serious article in which one of them tops you.
denbot
(9,899 posts)Pretty funny, and in line with the trumpland mindset.
0rganism
(23,945 posts)i bet David Mattress knows!
canetoad
(17,153 posts)Petri uses words that paint a decrepit and rusting environment populated by the same kind of people.
betsuni
(25,483 posts)dalton99a
(81,475 posts)SergeStorms
(19,200 posts)are in serious denial. That, and they watch and listen to the exact same "news" sources their fearless leader scans. They're never exposed to the truth. They say ignorance is bliss, but in their case it's a sentence. They're forever sentenced to live in a world where reality never reaches them. They long for a return to the halcyon days of post WWII America, where a high school education guaranteed you a cradle to grave job down at the factory. But those days are over forever, contrary to what Trump tells them. These are people stuck in a time warp, relying on a warped, orange, snake-oil-salesman to lull them into thinking everything will be okay, and the mean, scary people won't interfere with their blissful ignorance. Like South Park's episode of "member berries". "Member? Ahhhhhhh".
nikibatts
(2,198 posts)myrna minx
(22,772 posts)oasis
(49,381 posts)rusty fender
(3,428 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,953 posts)...nice takes on the Trump supporters!