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Will the Democratic Party Please Support Candidates Like Rob Quist ? (Original Post) Impedimentus Apr 2017 OP
watch that phrasing... I got beat up because eniwetok Apr 2017 #1
Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #2
Pretty sure Perez and Ellison understand the 50 State strategy emulatorloo Apr 2017 #3
I sincerely hope you are right. Impedimentus Apr 2017 #5
Trump's approval ratings are in the low 30's. Ryan's approval ratings are in the low teens emulatorloo Apr 2017 #7
You certainly seem concerned. JTFrog Apr 2017 #13
Yes, I am concerned Impedimentus Apr 2017 #14
You seem concerned but one has to wonder if this candidate is the best choice for a 50 state Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #21
having never been to Montana crazycatlady Apr 2017 #23
A moderate might win...maybe. Trump won by 20 points. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #25
I think they will crazycatlady Apr 2017 #4
GREAT !!! Impedimentus Apr 2017 #6
Does he have a chance of winning? Sounds like that's up for debate. randome Apr 2017 #8
Oh Dear, Oh Dear, he might not win Impedimentus Apr 2017 #9
Why throw money away when it won't help? randome Apr 2017 #16
Democrats have controlled the governorship in Montana NewJeffCT Apr 2017 #26
How about supporting running and supporting a candidate who can win. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #22
They're probably keeping their powder dry Orrex Apr 2017 #10
Talcum powder? Impedimentus Apr 2017 #11
LOL. I think you're correct. Orrex Apr 2017 #12
Precious and sagittate sentiment. LanternWaste Apr 2017 #28
The State Democratic Party is the one that picked him. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #15
Thank you for the information. Impedimentus Apr 2017 #17
thanks for the links. JHan Apr 2017 #18
The walls have ears. Impedimentus Apr 2017 #19
The Guardian 2naSalit Apr 2017 #20
+1 NCTraveler Apr 2017 #24
Juneau was a good choice too 2naSalit Apr 2017 #29
Impedimentus saidsimplesimon Apr 2017 #27

eniwetok

(1,629 posts)
1. watch that phrasing... I got beat up because
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 09:23 AM
Apr 2017

I suggested Hillary get off her butt and lead the opposition to the Trump Junta.

Response to eniwetok (Reply #1)

emulatorloo

(44,120 posts)
3. Pretty sure Perez and Ellison understand the 50 State strategy
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 09:53 AM
Apr 2017

Those guys just started at the DNC. Perez got rid of current employees and is rebuilding the organization.

Impedimentus

(898 posts)
5. I sincerely hope you are right.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 09:55 AM
Apr 2017

Hope you are right, otherwise I think Trumpism is here to stay and America is doomed.

emulatorloo

(44,120 posts)
7. Trump's approval ratings are in the low 30's. Ryan's approval ratings are in the low teens
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 10:02 AM
Apr 2017

And the "repeal and replace" fiasco was not good for the Republican congress people who supported it.

So happily, Trumpism is losing popularity.

Both Perez. and Ellison are great organizers, and they're liberal/progressive. I'm very excited about what they will do.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
21. You seem concerned but one has to wonder if this candidate is the best choice for a 50 state
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 11:39 AM
Apr 2017

strategy where you pick you candidates based on the state...Trump won by 20 points.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
23. having never been to Montana
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 02:28 PM
Apr 2017

He seems to be a good candidate. Has statewide name ID from his music career, not a politician, and seems to have a lot of common sense.

Someone with ties to the state can correct me, but that's my outside POV

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
8. Does he have a chance of winning? Sounds like that's up for debate.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 10:05 AM
Apr 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]You have to play the game to find out why you're playing the game. -Existenz[/center][/font][hr]

Impedimentus

(898 posts)
9. Oh Dear, Oh Dear, he might not win
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 10:08 AM
Apr 2017

Why bother running, or supporting a candidate when one can wrap oneself up comfortably in the blanket of defeatism.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
16. Why throw money away when it won't help?
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 10:53 AM
Apr 2017

Although I agree with a 50 state strategy and that such expenditures may reap benefits later down the road. I suppose it depends on how much money the DNC can afford to spend on long-shot candidates. I'm betting donations have been going up since the advent of Dolt45.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You have to play the game to find out why you're playing the game. -Existenz[/center][/font][hr]

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
26. Democrats have controlled the governorship in Montana
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 04:09 PM
Apr 2017

for over a decade - Brian Schweitzer and now Steve Bullock.

They also have Jon Tester in the US Senate.

Sure, they may not be Elizabeth Warren or Jeff Merkley, but if Tester votes with Democrats 80-90% of the time, it's a helluva lot better than some RW Tool in there that votes with Democrats 5-10% of the time, if that.

The right candidate can win in Montana

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
22. How about supporting running and supporting a candidate who can win.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 11:40 AM
Apr 2017

winning is not everything...it is the only thing.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
15. The State Democratic Party is the one that picked him.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 10:42 AM
Apr 2017

Last edited Thu Apr 6, 2017, 11:26 AM - Edit history (1)

Party officials in the state put him forward with a vote of 90-69. They seem to be supporting him. Running as an outsider is also a huge part of his campaign. That is well known by all.

He has raised over 750,000 in just a couple of weeks and about a third of that is from outside of the state.

This is where the DNC needs to give directly to the state party in order to keep a space between Quist and themselves. I know it's more fun to yell at walls than to actually think these things through.

We also have considerable amount of wealthy donors giving to the state party in Montana.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgave2.php?cycle=2016&cmte=C00010033

And some solid PAC's, including an arm of the DNC, are funneling money into the state.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pac2pac.php?cycle=2016&cmte=C00010033

Same people complaining about this would be yelling at walls even more if the DNC tied themselves directly to him. "Don't they know he is a Montana outsider!!!! The DNC is trying to kill his campaign!!!!"

Impedimentus

(898 posts)
17. Thank you for the information.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 10:57 AM
Apr 2017

I wish the Guardian article had provided more information. Appreciate the info.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
18. thanks for the links.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 10:58 AM
Apr 2017
This is where the DNC needs to give directly to the state party in order to keep a space between Quist and themselves. I know it's more fun to yell at walls than to actually think these things through.


++++++

Impedimentus

(898 posts)
19. The walls have ears.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 11:18 AM
Apr 2017

The walls have ears. Thinking can sometimes put knots in one's head. My head has plenty of knots - if only we could all be perfect.

2naSalit

(86,579 posts)
20. The Guardian
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 11:22 AM
Apr 2017

doesn't "get" Montanans. Articles like this one are why there's such a stereotyped image of western culture, especially in the 21st century.

Out here in Montana, it takes more than $$ to win a campaign, with such a small population the constituents want some face-time and Quist has the talent for that along with being a "real" Montanan. And he listens to what people say to him, his opponent acts like the elitist that he is. His opponent lost to the incumbent Democrat in his failed attempt at the Governor's race in November, we're already hip to the stink on his dung.

The fact that Quist went through the medical/financial issues makes him all the more "like us" to residents here. One thing I've heard is that people will vote for him because he's from here and that he's not a career politician... he's old school in their eyes.

He's got a really good chance, and I know of folks who have purposely registered to vote for this election when they didn't vote in November, and I don't see many signs for the opponent anywhere this time around.

We don't fit into the round or square hole...

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
24. +1
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 02:34 PM
Apr 2017

"Out here in Montana, it takes more than $$ to win a campaign, with such a small population the constituents want some face-time and Quist has the talent for that along with being a "real" Montanan."

Money is still always good. It seems to be flowing into his campaign just fine at this point. I think the Montana Democratic Party put the right person forward.

2naSalit

(86,579 posts)
29. Juneau was a good choice too
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 07:11 PM
Apr 2017

and Quist is a good choice. I went to his first rally up in town a few weeks ago. I not only was impressed with his message, I was impressed with who the audience was and that I am already acquainted with several attendees.

Even the red crowd around here is ready to swing to the other side for this election, Zinke was a burn and I think the price could be a Democrat in his place.

I'm glad Qusit is getting funding, I signed up to help, even after the election if he needs staff, I'm available.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
27. Impedimentus
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 04:16 PM
Apr 2017

Thank you for giving me some delightful tidbits of humour so often missing in our current written dialogue.

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