Now that McTurtle has blown up the Senate, watch them cry when they no longer control it.

[Augiedog]

[niyad]

1. they won't cry, because they believe they will ALWAYS be in control. the gerrymandering

has almost guaranteed it, along with voter suppression, purging voter rolls, etc., etc.

and, when der drumpfenfuhrer declares trump state empire, it won't matter.

[redstatebluegirl]

2. Gerrymandering doesn't impact a Senate race since they are statewide.

[niyad]

5. no, but the other things do.

[Blue_true]

13. Gerrymandering fails in high growth states.

Florida and Georgia are trending less conservative because of growth areas in those states, so is North Carolina. Orange County in Florida used to be very red, but since that region began growing in the seventies, it has become more progressive and now is one of the areas of Florida where Democrats count on lots of votes in statewide races.

[Demsrule86]

24. You can't gerrymander the Senate.

And about 25 gerrymandered districts went for Hillary...so we have a shot.

[HoneyBadger]

3. Can't they just reset the filibuster once Gorsuch is in

Like flicking the light switch off when you leave the room? No one leaves the light on.

[regnaD kciN]

7. Only while they have the majority...

If and when we retake the Senate, we can change the rules again...and, now, the Repugs don't have a damn leg to stand on if they complain.

[a kennedy]

12. But that's what they're good at.....

BASTARDS!!!!!

[Amishman]

8. They would need to amend the rules to make rule changes take 60 votes

Or possibly even do it by legislation (if they go nuclear on legislation too). I can easily see this happening during the lame duck period between election and turnover.

Undo their rules tampering and lock the door behind them. They can (and probably will) do it as soon as the writing is on the wall

[HoneyBadger]

16. They could just hack it just before 2021

Make it 99 votes, and then it is likely that no SCOTUS gets appointed ever again

[okieinpain]

21. isn't that what they are doing in north carolina. n/t

[Amishman]

23. Pretty close, they are reducing the power of the governor to limit what we can do with the office

Probably legal, definitely not ethical.

[Demsrule86]

29. It is not legal and it failed in court.

[Amishman]

33. Nice! I hadn't heard the outcome

[Demsrule86]

34. They were not able to do it...judge did rule against the legislature

the only thing they got was advice and consent for cabinet appointees...and that may fall as it heads to state's highest court which has a 4/3 progressive majority. The gerrymander in North Carolina should be gone by 18.

[Demsrule86]

26. We can use the nuclear option if needed.

[Blue_true]

15. Once that Genie has been released, it can't be put back in the bottle.

Republicans will soon rue removing the 60 vote threshold.

[wryter2000]

4. That's what I'm living for

The filibuster still stands for bills, but I imagine they'll blow that up, too.

I can't wait for us to take back the Congress.

[Blue_true]

17. We need to activate more people that don't vote in midterms and the General.

Several of my relatives didn't vote in my state's primary and some didn't vote at all, eventhough they hate Trump and republicans. I prefer educating that type of voter instead of wasting time trying to satisfy the demands of the purity assholes that blew the last election, 2014, 2010, 2004, 2002, 2000, 1998, 1996, 1994 (basically, fuck them because they pepetually fuck progress).

[wryter2000]

19. Abso-damned-lutely

I'm tired of fighting the "there's no difference between the parties" types. Just make sure everyone gets out and votes.

[Freethinker65]

6. They will control the Senate long enough to stack the courts for years to come

And Sessions and GOP legislators will gut voting rights as best they can. They will only investigate interference if the interference appears to support the opposition. If the democrats do not retake the House , or even less likely the Senate, in 2018 I do not think America can recover.

[CrispyQ]

14. I've had fleeting moments of optimism, but most of the time I agree with you. -nt

[Demsrule86]

27. It never works that way...this is one appointment for Scalia...it does not change the court.

[Freethinker65]

31. There are other courts besides the US Supreme Court which will are concerning

Actually, as horrible as Gorsuch is, I still believe he is qualified. If moderate Merrick Garland had been confirmed, and this seat not stolen, and we had a typical Republican President, I would not have felt the way I do. The GOP has been emboldened to rule at will and I think they will try their best to twist arms and get the legislature to march in lock step to approve whatever policy their bankrolling megadonors demand. Many are already running away from their constituents because quite frankly they know they do not need to worry so much about the voting public as long as they get the necessary money and inside information to use against any opponent.

[Demsrule86]

35. I do not consider Gorsuch qualified for a number of reasons...

However, there is nothing we can do about it...possibly down the road we can remove him as illegitimate which he is.

[Elwood P Dowd]

9. They're blowing up the whole damn country, not just the Senate.

It took the worst president in US history (Bush II) and his repuke cronies 6-7 years to wreck things, but now I'm expecting something far worse in less than half that time. Massive foreign policy mistakes and another Great Depression are what its going to take to wake up the brainwashed zombies that put these scumbags in power.

[briv1016]

10. If the Republicans are able to get a "healthcare" bill through the house,

shits really going to hit the fan.

[Ohioblue22]

11. the dems have to vote In order for that to happen

.

[Stallion]

18. I'm Fine With This-A Rule that only One Party Follows Is No Rule at All

Pay-backs are hell

[MurrayDelph]

20. They're already crying (like an abuser)

Oh, you mean old Democrats, look at what you made us do to you.

When they are no longer in power, they will cry even more: Oh, the mean Democrat Party (sic). Doesn't respect the concept of bi-partisanship.

[JCanete]

22. okay, one consideration I just had though, since these fuckers don't care about optics...ugh.

The day they lose the senate, I can just imagine them convening in an emergency session to reinstate the filibuster, unless there's something that prevents that.

oh, well I guess that's moot, since there is certainly precedent to erase it again. Maybe not then.

[Demsrule86]

28. What if they did? We can nuke it too...and once it is gone it is gone.

[JCanete]

30. yeah, I caught that myself as I thought it through.

[Warren DeMontague]

25. Yep.

[Eliot Rosewater]

32. Constitutional convention is on their agenda, them and the Koch's

I think the dont have to worry, I think they will change

E V E R Y T H I N G

before they lose control of the Senate.


Laws that allow people to vote? To be paid a minimum wage and overtime? To not own other people?

They are just laws, you know, subject to change. As is the Constitution.