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HAB911

(8,891 posts)
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 09:18 AM Apr 2017

MOAB attack on Isis was a baffling choice in cold-blooded terms of cost

Using ‘mother of all bombs’ in Afghanistan to kill 36 militants – at $450,000 each – will not change its reputation as a white elephant

War, boiled down to its most brutal calculation, is a business of accounting: “blood and treasure” in the horrible expression.

Cost calculations underpin warfare in terms of hard cash damage to economies and societies – what is called resilience.

Which makes the use of one of the US military’s largest non-nuclear explosive devices – the MOAB – to kill 36 jihadis in Nangarhar province, Afghanistan, somewhat baffling in military terms.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/14/moab-attack-isis-baffling-choice-cold-blooded-terms-cost-afghanistan?CMP=edit_2221

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MOAB attack on Isis was a baffling choice in cold-blooded terms of cost (Original Post) HAB911 Apr 2017 OP
Trump knows how to waste other's $$$$. He has made a living at it and is an expert. Freethinker65 Apr 2017 #1
Follow the money. Who benefits? n/t rzemanfl Apr 2017 #2
It was a message, nothing more. alarimer Apr 2017 #3
Definately a message - to North Korea n/m bagelsforbreakfast Apr 2017 #4
This is all posturing caraher Apr 2017 #5
I suspect that it was paid for 10 years ago HoneyBadger Apr 2017 #6
We had 18 left Nevernose Apr 2017 #7
So if we ever leave Afghanistan, we have to ship them back? HoneyBadger Apr 2017 #8
No, apparently the other 17 are still in the US Nevernose Apr 2017 #9

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
3. It was a message, nothing more.
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 09:39 AM
Apr 2017

The justification for using it is flimsy. Trump did it to show of; maybe to N. Korea, maybe to everyone.

caraher

(6,278 posts)
5. This is all posturing
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 10:08 AM
Apr 2017

Trump can say "I used the biggest bomb I could find." It's not about results, this is for domestic consumption.

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
6. I suspect that it was paid for 10 years ago
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 10:09 AM
Apr 2017

At this point we were paying to store it.

Like keeping VHS tapes in the UStoreIt.

But I am not familiar with military accounting. It is possible that we do not pay for it until we use it.

Then again, a financial planner could make a case that we will be paying for it as long as we run a deficit; ie every purchase the government makes will never be paid off. Which leads to a new perspective on spending.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
7. We had 18 left
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 10:13 AM
Apr 2017

Two were used for the initial tests, back in 2003. The remaining 18 have just been sitting around an AF base, all lonely, nobody to kill... In fact, the AF transferred this bomb to Afghanistan while Obama was still president.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
9. No, apparently the other 17 are still in the US
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 10:27 AM
Apr 2017

Which is good, because it means we won't be dropping them all willy-nilly, but strange, in that we can't use them here; they have to be shipped to the theater first.

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