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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy aren't millions of citizens out in the streets raging against this insanity?
#45 threatens our health, safety and welfare every goddamned day. Each page on the calendar brings some major deletion of necessary regulations, services and protections. For Christ's sake, Russia virtually put this wheel in motion. Why isn't the citizenry out screaming in the streets?
Our democracy is taking a major pummeling daily, and is under an existential INTERNAL threat. There is an ignorant, dangerous man at the wheel, who has surrounded himself with a gang of crooks, white nationalists, racists, privileged billionaires -- all of them unfit to hold posts in any administration, except perhaps in Germany, c. 1933.
Now there is an international crisis looming (China, North Korea). Where are the outraged citizens? Other than the low-information 35% who think #45 is just dandy. Are they too pacified? Too afraid? Have they given up?
dalton99a
(81,467 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)If things continue as is.
bdamomma
(63,840 posts)back when they loose everything. sorry to say.
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)I have long believed that those who can take time to march ( I was able to go the Woman's march) are a lucky few...one might almost say we are privileged in a check your privilege sort of way. Many are just trying to make it day by day and are too beaten down to protest. We need to stand up for them as Democrats.
Sculpin Beauregard
(1,046 posts)This fight is not just to get Trump out, it's to save democracy from dark money GOP who want to turn America into an oligarchy.
dalton99a
(81,467 posts)organized and massive, with a common message
Sculpin Beauregard
(1,046 posts)If you don't protest now, democracy is doomed.
VOX
(22,976 posts)Even just on weekends is a start.
Initech
(100,068 posts)Sculpin Beauregard
(1,046 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)I'm 67 now but strong and in good health. Pepper spray? Do it, I was hurt worse in 1968.
bdamomma
(63,840 posts)a so called American taking us out???? we should storming the mar a lago this man doesn't know what the fuck he's doing.
VOX
(22,976 posts)From a clever protest sign I saw recently. Yes, there should be a permanent demonstration going on as near to that property as legally possible!
marlakay
(11,456 posts)so much has happened its like overload to our mental systems.
Imagine our power grid blowing up and all is black from a bomb going off. That's how I and a ton of people feel. Left in the dark too frozen with shock to move to find any candles and flashlights.
Not sure what it will take to wake us up out of the nightmare that we are hiding under our collective covers from....
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,681 posts)Things are happening.
Sculpin Beauregard
(1,046 posts)the message that America wants its country back!
VOX
(22,976 posts)Right on, Sculpin Beauregard!
VOX
(22,976 posts)Thank you, V.O.. for posting these links. Good stuff!
marybourg
(12,624 posts)to protest tRump's not releasing his tax returns. You can join us.
https://actionnetwork.org/event_campaigns/tax-march?source=moveon&zipcode
VOX
(22,976 posts)It's my birthday, and I seriously cannot think of a better way to spend it!
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)for dropping 16 million dollar bombs on some obscure shithole in Afghanistan.
Now they are firing up the country for a nuclear war in North Korea.
USA USA USA WE ARE NUMBER 1!!!
VOX
(22,976 posts)But fuck 'em, just paddle harder!
Sculpin Beauregard
(1,046 posts)It is so important that people push back! This is a fight for democracy as much as it is a protest against every odious thing Cheeto has done IN LESS THAN 100 days.
VOX
(22,976 posts)4 L O N G years of this crapfest and the country will resemble a burnt match.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Then noodle your question again.
JudyM
(29,233 posts)seriously, just
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)Now we need to get them to the ballot box. We need to put the HURT on them, long and hard, where they really feel it. Grab them by the ballot and TWIST
I got voter registration drives set up this week and next. Young voters, unlikely voters, many who are LGBTQ and reside in the district of a GOP state senator who sponsored the infamous HB2. The look in their faces when I explain that they can vote against the guy who sponsored that nasty, discriminatory piece of legislation designed to humiliate them and/or their friends is PRICELESS. They light up like it was Christmas morning!
Don't get mad, get even.
Saboburns
(2,807 posts)As propagandized as any group, ever, in the history of the world. And the oddest part, THEY THEMSELVES CHOOSE TO BE PROPAGANDIZED.
Warpy
(111,254 posts)and anyone willing to converse about what's going on in a spirit of "each one teach one" when it comes to people who are politically disengaged to the point they don't pay any attention to what Asshole is doing, especially what he's defunding.
Being out in the street and yelling at the top of our voices doesn't work unless it's organized. Trust me, the Women's March got their attention. Random women in the street and screaming at the WH are dismissed as drunks and kooks.
That's why.
raccoon
(31,110 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,792 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)It's past time for an ice-water plunge.
ananda
(28,858 posts)nt
IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)Between the Capitol and White House and in front of his shitty hotel. Enough people to close down major roads like Constitution Ave and Pennsylvania Ave.
It started before his inauguration
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)... every weekend.
People in Florida should march at Mar-A-Lago (Palm Beach) because he doesn't see the marchers in DC.
On purpose.
lordsummerisle
(4,651 posts)at this point Trump could declare himself President for Life and who would stop him?
VOX
(22,976 posts)They are using him (at massive expense to the country, literally and figuratively) to ram through their agenda like they're double-parked.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)Appreciated!
Perseus
(4,341 posts)"It Can't Happen Here!" Sinclair Lewis, 1935
Until things get really bad people will not wake up, that is how corrupt regimes are able to move their agenda through, they distract with stupidity (Spicer and his Hitler comments, and all the other daily comedy), Trump playing Golf every week-end, nepotism, so many things that on the surface don't mean a whole lot but make people upset, raises anxiety levels but never to the extent where people understand that evil things are happening in the background...Almost like a computer virus, its going to let you work until it corrupts all vital files and your computer collapses to a point of no return.
People don't realize that while the Russia thing and other gaffs are going on, they are still passing legislation behind the scenes that affects the citizens of this country and the World. When things get really bad on the Russia issue, they will try to go to war.
The bigger question is why are the FBI and CIA allowing this to go on if they have enough proof? Why did they let this guy get on the presidency if they had enough proof? What is going on? Is this part of the "New Order" plan?
By now, FBI and CIA should have had all the guilty parties in handcuffs and in jail, why is that not happening? The investigation goes on, and on, and on, but nothing concrete is done about the traitors...WHAT IS GOING ON?
VOX
(22,976 posts)Feeling the same. If Russia interfered with the election, why isn't that MAJOR national security issue front and center every day, until it's resolved one way or another? In my mind, it's tantamount to an aggressive act of war, the first in the way wars will be waged in the future (hacking, disabling, etc.).
Excellent analogy with the kmptr virus, BTW.
Duppers
(28,120 posts)I thought U.S. media would be exploding. Nope. DU would be all over it this morning. Nope. Thought I'd get feedback from emails. Nope.
What the ever-loving f**k is wrong with everyone?!
In addition to my phone calls, petition signatures, donations, I'm going to DC to march, as often as I can. I'm outraged.
And, VOX, I really appreciate your post. You expressed my sentiments exactly.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)tomp
(9,512 posts)the women's march was the most effective progressive action in decades. it set the tone for trump resistance.
it needs to continue. period. it is our only hope. i believe we can stop trump with feet on the street. relying on political action within the halls of government is political suicide.
someone needs to call for another massive march....now...and again....and again.
SCantiGOP
(13,869 posts)Saw that our side is co-opting the original Tea Parties, which were held on Tax Day, April 15 ( hence the whole Taxed Enough Already? BS ). Saw one is at my Statehouse downtown from 2-5:00 to demand that Trump release his taxes on the day we have to pay ours.
Latest count in Columbia SC is about 200 interested and 80+ saying they are coming. Google it and show up.
Lone Star
(11 posts)inauguration.
MedusaX
(1,129 posts)People simply trust that
checks& balances or
the Constitution or
Congress or
DoJ or
some fairy godmother
will prevent anything bad from happening to Amerkuh....
No different than every true crime show where everyone makes the same claim that
"we just never imagined something like that could happen here.."
"We are all Good people."
"Things like that happen in those other neighborhoods... not our wholesome little town.."
the same logic is applied to the current situation..
"That only happens in those other countries "
"That can't happen in USA... we have the Constitution and laws and rights..."
And for some unknown reason there seems to be this pervasive belief that it is acceptable to jack with "other" people's rights ...
Maybe this little nightmare will start to change that mindset..
IMHO..
We should all recognize the value of what few rights we have (had) and
appreciate that
regardless of
whether or not we personally desire to exercise some/none/all of those rights
Or
How we /others choose to exercise them....
we need to maintain & protect every one of them and never be willing to give any of them up ....
FailureToCommunicate
(14,013 posts)they did much good other than feel good solidarity.
In the good ol days here in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts they really knew how to protest in the streets:
VOX
(22,976 posts)It's good for the soul in dark times, and it does make a difference, even if just one passerby decides to question things as they are.
TalenaGor
(1,104 posts)JI7
(89,247 posts)brooklynite
(94,513 posts)...the answer is that most Americans aren't as worked up as you are.
The very fact that you're posting on a political blog says something. The average voter, even those who voted for Clinton, doesn't get worked up ENOUGH to protest day after day.
BTW - what protests have you been involved in?
VOX
(22,976 posts)Last edited Sat Apr 15, 2017, 12:55 AM - Edit history (1)
but I get out there every weekend I can. Do you require photo-documentation?
Tomorrow, for sure, my wife and I will be out there, even though it's my birthday. I'll be 68, but I'm healthy and have energy for the fight. I've taken my lumps in 1968-'69, including a hard crack on the neck/shoulder from a cop during a melee at San Fernando Valley State College (now CSU Northridge), which was a hotbed of anti-war activity at the time. I also marched in front of the Federal Building in Westwood and marched through downtown L.A. throughout the run-up to the Iraq invasion in 2003. My wife got an on-air sound bite with a local NBC affiliate. My credentials are pretty solid. First vote was for McGovern '72. We've also donated to Democratic candidates over the decades to the tune of 5 figures. Small potatoes compared to Citizens United, I know.
I'm not pleased with my country about having to do this shit all over again, but I will. What will it take to make the average voter get up off his/her ass and hit the pavement?
Oh, and BTW - feel free to share your record of demonstrations, marching, storming the barricades...whaddya got?
kacekwl
(7,016 posts)have a clue what is really happening here. I seriously can't afford to go into the city to protest this weekend (sad right) if there were some more local events nearby that would be great. Also the Democratic Party should be educating all those who unlike us don't know what is about to happen to them if this administration is allowed to proceed . I would be happy to donate what little I can to the DNC to run ads , commercials , social media spots to get this info to those who don't follow politics . So many don't know.
captain queeg
(10,184 posts)Unfortunately a lot of people chose not to vote, and apparently the stupidest made sure to vote. Trump and his buddies see the government treasury as their own piggy bank continuing to do everything they can to rip off the taxpayers. Largely, besides being inherently evil and criminal, because they are such lousy businessmen they can't really thrive in the "free market" they are always crowing. about. They are the first ones to demand the government saves them when they can't make a buck honestly.
Kablooie
(18,628 posts)Since Trump has the most successful presidency in American history why on earth would they want to protest that?
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)Consider that their big news story today was about what noodles they were having for lunch. It was a very big day for noodles apparently.
HoneyBadger
(2,297 posts)It is the annual celebration of the enemy threatening them. Every businessman in the country is corrupt....but today was all about noodles.
The US is politically saavy in comparison.
bobGandolf
(871 posts)You ask, "Why aren't millions of citizens out in the streets raging against this insanity?"
The answer is. a lack of strong leadership. For some reason very few Democratic politicians, and leaders, are being vocal against Trump, and the Republicans. The Trumpsters came to Washington intent on stripping away all the safety laws, and social safety nets protecting those who can not protect themselves.
Why is our response so muted? Could it be that the Democratic Party politicians are corrupted by the same big business groups the Republicans bow to. We need to infuse our Democratic Party with new candidates not poisoned by big money campaign contributions.
JI7
(89,247 posts)BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)Citizens of other countries are in control of their nation's governments because they have an all-encompassing social safety net that allows them to stand up for themselves, their rights and the rights of the maligned. They protest, they'll still have their Universal Health Care. They have a welfare system that isn't just over minimum wage and only for a short time. They won't get fired from their jobs because the employers aren't hyper-Republican profitcentric assholes.
The citizens of the "United States" (PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT) are almost completely tethered to their jobs. When you don't have a social safety net that's worth any kind of shit, no job security, no future, just a cost to someone's bottom line, on the table to be replaced by automation, no avenue to open your own business if you don't have gobs of cash, no avenue to better yourself through higher education (because, again, it costs gobs of cash), your life pretty much revolves around the constant acquisition of money. Short of that, you turn desperate and either starve or commit crime.
They don't have time to protest because they're too scared to or they're just trying to make a living. Or, worse yet, they're completely on board with this wholesale screwing out of blind faith that it will happen to "teh (insert racial slur here)s" and not them.
America could have been much better than a "great idea". We just don't have the backbone for such a notion. Why? We love wealthy people too much and want to BE them.
"I'M NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT I HAVE! NOBODY ON EARTH WORKS HARDER THAN I DO!! IT'S NOT FAIR THAT I'M NOT THAT RICH GUY WHO OWNS EVERYTHING! I'M BETTER THAN THOSE WELFARE RECIPIENTS!!" - someone who tries really, really REALLY hard to pretend he isn't poor.
Nobody gives a shit when you're nothing but a number.
VOX
(22,976 posts)What few, shaky safety nets we have are being steadily slashed, poked, snipped and clipped away by Republicans. And the Democratic senators/congress-people, lacking the numbers, are pretty much relegated to sitting by impotently by while our moorings get cut out from under us. This shift has occurred at the state level as well-- Republicans now control 32 state legislatures and have 33 governors, which enables more gerrymandering and right-wing fundraising machinery.
Americans also have been made to resent taxation of any kind by Republicans over the decades. They've become so entitled that they're no longer aware of what their taxes pay for and in what percentages. The concept of a greater good is almost forgotten, no matter how much the individual taxpayer stands to gain her/himself. There is deep resentment about chipping in even a few dollars to help the less fortunate, while not a word is mentioned about the gaping money-pit that is the defense budget. And so on.
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)although I live near Coachella, which is kinda upstaging everything in my town for this weekend and the next.
Vinca
(50,269 posts)they couldn't name the Vice President for a million dollar prize. I think there are many who have given up. Let's face it, when you send off an email to someone in the government you don't know if they even read it or if it's just deleted. The only thing I ever get back are newsletters and fund raising emails. Then, of course, there is the significant chunk of people just trying to survive. They work multiple jobs, have no life for themselves and most likely don't want to spend a minute of free time at a demonstration. In the end, the only show of outrage that counts is the one that happens at the ballot box. That's the one we need to concern ourselves with.