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babylonsister

(171,059 posts)
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 08:01 AM Apr 2017

Rep. Quigley Back from Covert Cyprus Trip to Probe Trump-Russia Collusion - Nails Down Motive

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/4/14/1653226/-Rep-Quigley-Back-from-Covert-Cyprus-Trip-to-Probe-Trump-Russia-Collusion-Nails-Down-Motive


Rep. Quigley Back from Covert Cyprus Trip to Probe Trump-Russia Collusion - Nails Down Motive
By ericlewis0
Friday Apr 14, 2017 · 5:45 PM EST


From Crain’s Chicago Business:

Chicago Congressman Mike Quigley is just back from a hush-hush two-day trip to Cyprus, the latest development in the probe of Russian intervention in the U.S. election and whether aides to Donald Trump colluded with it.

Quigley, a Democratic member of the House Intelligence Committee, which is probing potential Trump-Russia ties, wouldn't say too much about what exactly he found out during his two-day trip, in which he was accompanied only by a military escort. But he sure dropped some riveting hints.

"The Russians laundered money to avoid (U.S.) sanctions" over Russia's seizure of Crimea and other matters, Quigley told me. "That makes it front-and-center in this investigation. . . .Sanctions are the possible motives for collusion."


www.chicagobusiness.com/…

It has long been suspected that Trump is involved in Russian money laundering, but I always assumed it was for the Russian Mafia and other unsavory types. But if what Quigley said is accurate, it’s quite possible Trump was laundering money for Putin and/or the Russian Government itself. Which of course, Putin could then use to blackmail Trump, because aiding in the violation of U.S. Sanctions is surely a serious crime.

Not to mention the suspicious fact that Trump’s hand-picked Commerce Secretary, Wilbur Ross, was until recently the vice chairman of a bank...based in Cyprus. Hmmm wonder if he was involved...
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Rep. Quigley Back from Covert Cyprus Trip to Probe Trump-Russia Collusion - Nails Down Motive (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 2017 OP
The whole gang is complicit. lark Apr 2017 #1
You left out the malaise Apr 2017 #4
But if Pence goes pennylane100 Apr 2017 #12
No, it would be Paul Ryan nt IphengeniaBlumgarten Apr 2017 #13
But he's involved too so... 2naSalit Apr 2017 #22
So then it passes to the President of the Senate, Orrin Hatch IphengeniaBlumgarten Apr 2017 #23
Hatch is ultra conservative, murielm99 Apr 2017 #29
Except that Nunes took his marching orders from RYan when he went to the WH. He first talked Amaryllis Apr 2017 #30
Protocol for a congressperson to get Speaker's approval... IphengeniaBlumgarten Apr 2017 #31
REad the link in the post. That is exactly the point; that he went to Ryan forst and therefore Amaryllis Apr 2017 #35
And McConnell, thankfully, is far down the chain of succession. maddiemom Apr 2017 #39
the plot thickens... Sancho Apr 2017 #2
tho to thpeak. nt. tomp Apr 2017 #6
I find it amazing that so much information is out there, but the wheels of justice are so slow in... Frustratedlady Apr 2017 #3
I have to wonder where Comey fits into this conspiracy groundloop Apr 2017 #7
Good point. At this point in time, I don't trust any of them. eom Frustratedlady Apr 2017 #28
I've been wondering about that too . . . Erda Apr 2017 #36
Uh . . . yeah . . . now you've got a handle on the whole story . . . Don't forget Hillary's seizures NBachers Apr 2017 #41
Well, that certainly gets a K&R. Barack_America Apr 2017 #5
We have the motive. yallerdawg Apr 2017 #8
The deeper we go Soxfan58 Apr 2017 #9
We need an independent investigator and prosecutor IMMEDIATELY! FakeNoose Apr 2017 #10
If this is about money laundering it makes me wonder who else was involved because surely Trump cstanleytech Apr 2017 #11
The Russians play both sides of the street and some Democrats may also go down elehhhhna Apr 2017 #25
I don't know that one can separate the Russian Mafia from the Russian Gov't... Wounded Bear Apr 2017 #14
Or even Scarsdale Apr 2017 #21
I recall that the Jersey casino was fined for money laudering randr Apr 2017 #15
Yep! He's an experienced money launderer. bettyellen Apr 2017 #20
What side of Cypress did he go to? AngryAmish Apr 2017 #16
The one with butter and jam. alfredo Apr 2017 #40
How much Russian mob money flowed to trump's campaign? L. Coyote Apr 2017 #17
Great quote! Duppers Apr 2017 #34
a brand new reason for cheeto to hate chicago. mopinko Apr 2017 #18
I keep hearing "this is it" "motive" "proof", etc. Again and again. 7962 Apr 2017 #19
If not impeachment/ jail, serious damage to Trump's 2020 chances. oasis Apr 2017 #24
Ding ding ding 🔔 MaeScott Apr 2017 #26
So, this is crazy. Sculpin Beauregard Apr 2017 #27
Suddenly America has a voracious appetite for corruption world wide wally Apr 2017 #32
K&R...Thanks for posting red dog 1 Apr 2017 #33
Let me see tiptonic Apr 2017 #37
Not just trumps russian money. Republicans benefiting? from what was called "russian pension checks" Sunlei Apr 2017 #38

lark

(23,097 posts)
1. The whole gang is complicit.
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 09:05 AM
Apr 2017

There's a reason drumpf put all these people in office, to help him give what he wants to Russia, to obscure what he's really doing and to destroy our government from within. All the family, Sessions, Price, Tillerson, Flynn, Manafort, Page, Ryan, McTurtle were all involved in the collusion to promote Russian interests and the theft of our election.

23. So then it passes to the President of the Senate, Orrin Hatch
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 11:50 AM
Apr 2017

Ryan was a reluctant supporter of Trump, so he is likely not deeply implicated in Whatever This Turns Out to Be. Haven't seen any indication that Hatch is involved, but the only good thing about him is that he is too old to run in 2020.

murielm99

(30,736 posts)
29. Hatch is ultra conservative,
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 02:39 PM
Apr 2017

but he was a friend to Teddy Kennedy. He is an old style politician who used to work across the aisle. He could be persuaded to do it again.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
30. Except that Nunes took his marching orders from RYan when he went to the WH. He first talked
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 02:48 PM
Apr 2017

to Ryan.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028865654
O'Donnell again tonight showed clip of Ryan saying he "had to brief the speaker first" before going to WH. Asks, "Why are no reporters picking up on Ryan involvement in Nunes scandal? I’ve showed this clip three times of Nunes saying he had to brief the speaker before he did anything else, and yet no one is picking up on it."

"Ryan is at the center of the scandal. The press apparently didn’t hear it when he said it in the WH driveway when he said he first went to Ryan before going to the WH. Everything he did after that would have been at the direction of Ryan. "

"The Nunes scandal is Paul Ryan’s scandal. That is why Ryan won’t remove him. Ryan is in it as deep as Nunes is. If Nunes can lose the chairmanship over it, Ryan can lose the speakership over it. "

I have wondered myself why more aren't picking up on this, even on DU. See this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028850749
for O'Donnell show video and transcript from Thursday where he raises this question of why no one seems to be picking up on Ryan's involvement and says Nunes is covering up for Ryan; that Nunes fell on his sword for Ryan.

This is very important; it means Ryan is colluding as well as Nunes! Not only colluding, but directing Nunes. Much more in the thread from the Thursday show linked to above, but O'Donnell feels it so important that he brought it up for the third time tonight.

He also had former CIA director on telling why it was critical to Nunes and Ryan to stop Sally Yates testimony.

31. Protocol for a congressperson to get Speaker's approval...
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 02:58 PM
Apr 2017

before going to speak to the President. Maybe it was something more than standard protocol, we don't know. But because it is standard operating procedure, we can't assume that it means Ryan is implicated.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
35. REad the link in the post. That is exactly the point; that he went to Ryan forst and therefore
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 04:30 PM
Apr 2017

was following Ryan's directive.This is what O'Donnell says:

"Ryan is at the center of the scandal. The press apparently didn’t hear it when he said it in the WH driveway when he said he first went to Ryan before going to the WH. Everything he did after that would have been at the direction of Ryan. "

"The Nunes scandal is Paul Ryan’s scandal. That is why Ryan won’t remove him. Ryan is in it as deep as Nunes is. If Nunes can lose the chairmanship over it, Ryan can lose the speakership over it. "

there is a lot more in the link in my post that you responded to.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
3. I find it amazing that so much information is out there, but the wheels of justice are so slow in...
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 09:39 AM
Apr 2017

connecting the dots. They've been working on this since mid-2016, right? We knew about Wilbur Ross' connection to the bank in Cyprus when he was nominated. Didn't they? Was he questioned about that during his confirmation?

My biggest fear is that we'll never know the whole truth. What little we DO learn will be exposed to prove this mob's collusion, but not enough to put them all in prison. Being rich, white and (in some people's minds) important, the Big Guys will probably get a slap on their wrists and retire with their ill-gotten wealth.

Surely, since Ryan and McConnell are in Congress and hold such responsible positions, they will fall into the "his ass is grass" category and they will both end up behind bars. We know Trump will never eat prison food, although it would be a saving grace in the eyes of the world if he did spend time and, just maybe, the world would forgive us for exposing them to Trump.

I guess we can only keep the faith that the CIA. FBI and DOJ will deliver, but I'll probably not live long enough to see it come to fruition.

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
7. I have to wonder where Comey fits into this conspiracy
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 09:53 AM
Apr 2017

At the moment he appears to be investigating 45*'s gang, but he was instrumental in putting 45* in the White House.

Erda

(107 posts)
36. I've been wondering about that too . . .
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 04:59 PM
Apr 2017

I think that when President Clinton spoke with Loretta Lynch on the tarmac before the election he damaged the Russia investigation. The appearance was terrible and made the Justice Department look as if it was in collusion with the Clintons.

I also think Director Comey tried to re-establish the FBI's impartiality by making a statement about the Clinton emails when he did. If he hadn't, the FBI would not have been perceived as impartial when it later revealed its investigation about the Trump campaign.

If anyone, I would hold President Clinton responsible, not James Comey.

NBachers

(17,108 posts)
41. Uh . . . yeah . . . now you've got a handle on the whole story . . . Don't forget Hillary's seizures
Sun Apr 16, 2017, 02:24 AM
Apr 2017

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
10. We need an independent investigator and prosecutor IMMEDIATELY!
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 10:27 AM
Apr 2017

Enough with these guys and their secret trips.

Things have to be done according to legal procedures - ON THE RECORD!

How do we know how much evidence Comey has already buried?


cstanleytech

(26,290 posts)
11. If this is about money laundering it makes me wonder who else was involved because surely Trump
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 10:31 AM
Apr 2017

could not launder it all so I now I am wondering what the varies Congressional Repugnants were doing at the time like Ryan and McConnell? Were they to involved in helping Russia launder money to avoid the sanctions? It could explain a hell of alot why they and so many other Repugnants have been stonewalling an independent investigation in Russia's actions during and before the elections.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
25. The Russians play both sides of the street and some Democrats may also go down
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 12:07 PM
Apr 2017

Whatever. Clean it up. Make the trump gang an example. This cannot be dismissed.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
21. Or even
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 11:08 AM
Apr 2017

our OWN government? They all have dirty hands. We know for a fact they will do anything for money and power. Are they really going to overlook the stupidity of "their president"??

randr

(12,412 posts)
15. I recall that the Jersey casino was fined for money laudering
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 10:51 AM
Apr 2017

Anyone remember reading that in the last year or so?

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
19. I keep hearing "this is it" "motive" "proof", etc. Again and again.
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 10:57 AM
Apr 2017

yet seems like nothing proceeds. So far, still just pissing in the wind.
I wanna see something concrete. And something happen.

oasis

(49,381 posts)
24. If not impeachment/ jail, serious damage to Trump's 2020 chances.
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 12:02 PM
Apr 2017

The press will happily lend a hand in Cheetolini's downfall.

Sculpin Beauregard

(1,046 posts)
27. So, this is crazy.
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 12:25 PM
Apr 2017

There are the Koch Bro Rethugs and the Russia's Bitches Rethugs.

It seems to me that Cheeto is frantically doing everything he can on the Koch Bro wish list (EPA dismantling, deregulating everything) before heads start rolling on the Russia stuff. Do you think the Kochs are going to help Cheeto when the shit hits the fan? Are the Kochs are in bed with Russia too?

There is so much bad it is hard to make sense of.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
38. Not just trumps russian money. Republicans benefiting? from what was called "russian pension checks"
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 10:38 PM
Apr 2017

The entire house of Republican cards needs to be busted!

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