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babylonsister

(171,059 posts)
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 09:05 AM Apr 2017

"I Need To Address Trumps Frequent Visits To Mar-a-Lago"

From 'a chick on the right'...

I Need To Address Trump’s Frequent Visits To Mar-a-Lago
Mockarena COTR
April 11, 2017 07:26pm


So, this may be an unpopular opinion with die-hard Trump supporters, but it needs to be said. I’m getting sick and tired of Trump’s constant trips to Mar-a-Lago.

According to the sourcelink, at the rate Trump is traveling to his private club in Florida, he will spend more on travel THIS YEAR ALONE than Obama did during his entire 8 years as President, and if you recall, there were plenty of us bitching about Obama’s travel as it happened.

In fact, one of the folks who bitched the loudest about it was Trump himself. He tweeted during Obama’s tenure, “President @BarackObama’s vacation is costing taxpayers millions of dollars – Unbelievable!”

He also went after Obama (as did a lot of us) for the amount of golf Obama played:

In October 2014, he tweeted: ‘Can you believe that, with all of the problems and difficulties facing the US, President Obama spent the day playing golf. Worse than Carter.’

He said: ‘You know what – and I love golf – but if I were in the White House, I don’t think I’d ever see Turnberry again, I don’t think I’d ever see Doral again, I own Doral in Miami, I don’t think I’d ever see many of the places that I have.

‘I don’t ever think that I’d see anything, I just wanna stay in the White House and work my ass off, make great deals, right? Who’s gonna leave? I mean, who’s gonna leave?’

He also told supporters in Virginia: ‘I’m going to be working for you. I’m not going to have time to play golf.’


So yeah. Trump is a total hypocrite on this issue, and frankly, I’m getting tired of it not being addressed.

Before you go all, “But he’s not taking a salary!” let me just remind you that a presidential salary is less than 500k annually. It costs us, the taxpayers, in excess of THREE MILLION DOLLARS every time Trump goes to his fancy resort. And so far, even though it’s not even mid April yet, and he wasn’t inaugurated until late January, Trump has managed to spend SEVEN WEEKENDS at Mar-a-Lago. He has played 17 rounds of golf, despite all of the proclamations above that he’d never have time to play because he’d be “too busy working for us.”

I’m sorry, but that’s indefensible. Unless he’s paying the $3.3 million dollars PER TRIP it takes to travel to Mar-a-Lago out of his own pocket, I fail to see how he can defend this after being so critical of the former president.

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"I Need To Address Trumps Frequent Visits To Mar-a-Lago" (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 2017 OP
Wow, a conservative with an independent thought. Bluepinky Apr 2017 #1
Independent Thought Alarm! ret5hd Apr 2017 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author ret5hd Apr 2017 #3
...but not enough to have noticed Bush's vacations and golfing... JHB Apr 2017 #10
Dont worry, they dont. They thought he was just a regular joe who was sticking it to the Dumb Rich Volaris Apr 2017 #25
One who sees the hypocrisy? treestar Apr 2017 #4
No. Just unable to ignore the glaring hypocrisy and still keep a straight face. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #20
In addition to the Federal taxpayers getting socked for the extra expenses, Lone Star Apr 2017 #5
Welcome to DU, Lone Star! calimary Apr 2017 #32
Comrade Casino has an important message for republican voters Achilleaze Apr 2017 #6
Dollars to donuts she'll vote for him again dalton99a Apr 2017 #7
No doubt about that. C Moon Apr 2017 #39
And he is taking a salary so he can Ilsa Apr 2017 #8
He can skip the payment for golf carts. livvy Apr 2017 #56
Trump isn't conservative IronLionZion Apr 2017 #9
Well, trump said all along he was going to increase defense, 7962 Apr 2017 #23
She wrote herself an escape hatch angrychair Apr 2017 #11
How's that an "escape hatch"? He's NOT going to start paying!! 7962 Apr 2017 #24
I can't believe the nerve of him. smirkymonkey Apr 2017 #12
Public pressure. The House could cut off funding for his extracurricular activities dalton99a Apr 2017 #14
Very disturbing comments from his die hard supporters: ecstatic Apr 2017 #13
"$248 Million per day JUST for SECURITY to secure Obama PER DAY" dalton99a Apr 2017 #15
that works out to rurallib Apr 2017 #36
He's confused ThoughtCriminal Apr 2017 #43
Who do I talk to Zambero Apr 2017 #17
So no microwave ovens at Mar-a-Lago? Beartracks Apr 2017 #19
Dont they know that if he WAS paying, he'd be shouting it from the rooftops?? nt 7962 Apr 2017 #28
"$248 Million per day. . . to secure Obama" tsuukiyomi Apr 2017 #35
this comment takes the chocolate cake bdamomma Apr 2017 #46
His "work day" consists of punching the TV remote... VOX Apr 2017 #48
I know we're supposed to "reach out and not ignore" these folks... VOX Apr 2017 #47
And still the Drumpfcultists are making excuses for it, saying he "deserves it" because he's catbyte Apr 2017 #16
And all the extra expense of protection for Melania's NYC digs. nt Beartracks Apr 2017 #18
Isn't he personally profiting from these junkets? Generic Brad Apr 2017 #21
of course it is... lame54 Apr 2017 #33
Now you're catching on world wide wally Apr 2017 #34
Nail meet hammer. NewRedDawn Apr 2017 #38
"money making scheme for Trump" - Isn't everything? Ironic how... Beartracks Apr 2017 #50
He is also renting apartments to Secret Service. But no worry. He is donating salary. Midnight Writer Apr 2017 #51
You know Scarsdale Apr 2017 #22
Trumpers, you've been Trumped! Bwahahahahaha. Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #26
From the well respected "Chicks on the Right" JDC Apr 2017 #27
Oh do tell, "chick on the right." Do tell. calimary Apr 2017 #29
Right on. Kath2 Apr 2017 #30
I thought there was squabbling about whether or not he IS taking a salary. teezy Apr 2017 #31
doesn't seem to mention that Trump companies profit from these trips rurallib Apr 2017 #37
I attended the TAX MARCH BigmanPigman Apr 2017 #40
Sure, it's perfectly OK when their side does it... Initech Apr 2017 #41
Republicans suck. warmfeet Apr 2017 #42
"Total hypocrite" on EVERY issue. n/t Orsino Apr 2017 #44
he keeps on saying bdamomma Apr 2017 #45
depends bora13 Apr 2017 #49
When he's on the premises, or the golf course down there, he's keeping the franchise alive. NBachers Apr 2017 #52
As far as I'm concerned..... Lone Star Apr 2017 #53
These are simple people, you know, morons. Better to OnDoutside Apr 2017 #54
We all know...... SergeStorms Apr 2017 #55

Response to Bluepinky (Reply #1)

JHB

(37,159 posts)
10. ...but not enough to have noticed Bush's vacations and golfing...
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 10:26 AM
Apr 2017

Obama took about a quarter of what Bush did, and about half of what Reagan did.

So why was he bitching about that? Why is he bitching now?

Hopefully his independent thought will progress to "jeez, I just swallowed every horseshit claim that came down the pike, didn't I?". But I'm not making any bets on it.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
25. Dont worry, they dont. They thought he was just a regular joe who was sticking it to the Dumb Rich
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 12:07 PM
Apr 2017

by owning those 'fancy clubs' and overcharging for a round of golf and cheap steak. No sympathy for supposed Capitalists too stupid to understand how the Free Market works.

They voted for a con of a businessman, and now they have a sad when he doesn't know how to act like a President?

Nope no sympathy. WE ALL knew what you were voting for, because we aren't abject morAns.

Enjoy the Debt Ceiling fight your GOP puts on this year, guys, this time they might actually pull it off.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,326 posts)
20. No. Just unable to ignore the glaring hypocrisy and still keep a straight face.
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 11:44 AM
Apr 2017

Like someone said upthread, the time to call out hypocrisy was when President Obama was being criticized for taking a fraction of the time Bush took.

Lone Star

(11 posts)
5. In addition to the Federal taxpayers getting socked for the extra expenses,
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 09:26 AM
Apr 2017

the citizens of Florida are also having to pay more money from their pockets because of Trumps frequent visits to Mar-a-Lago.

calimary

(81,225 posts)
32. Welcome to DU, Lone Star!
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 01:32 PM
Apr 2017

I find that fitting. Didn't Florida go for trump?

And this, even while his lavish lifestyle and his throw-caution-to-the-wind business deals and many bankruptcies have all been WELL-KNOWN for HOW MANY years now? I was covering his very public foibles with his SECOND wife, Marla Maples, while I was still working at the AP - from which I retired more than two decades ago.

We all knew this guy. We knew what he was. Certain segments of the population CHOSE to disregard those warning signs and red flags. They CHOSE to do so. It could be traced back to any number of dumb-ass/dingbat "reasons" and rationales - either because they were too young to remember all that long-ago backwash, or wanted to embrace the fantasy, or didn't mind the lies that some of them actually recognized - but it just sounded so good or they just hate Democrats that much, or were so damn desperate to get the White House back that they would have voted for Lucifer himself if they thought he could deliver, and - um - to Hell with the consequences.

The one thing I came to appreciate about Bernie was when he questioned a trump voter in a town hall program well after the election, and he buttonholed her about trump's congenital and pathological lying. She conceded she knew he was lying. And Bernie then followed "so you were okay voting for someone you KNEW was lying to you?" She didn't care. Confronted with that fact, live and on-camera, and she didn't care. They don't care. They really DON'T care. They're either so dumbed-down or so damn Machiavellian that they're okay with that.

So okay then, Florida. Go "right" ahead (haha). Get yourselves stiffed month after month, while this world-class CONman picks your pocket and lives the high life at Mar-a-Lago on YOUR dime. And he's been doing it to you almost every freakin' weekend since he took office! Don't expect any sympathy from me. Because I, too, will be getting stuck paying for his high life now and later. And I resent the fucking HELL out of that, AND out of YOU, too, Florida. Gotta hand it to him. He figured out a right-FINE way to have YOU pay for all of his champagne tastes for awhile. This is an even better scam than trump University.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
8. And he is taking a salary so he can
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 10:03 AM
Apr 2017

Use it for PR. I suspect he uses the next one to pay MaraLago for cake or golf carts.

livvy

(6,948 posts)
56. He can skip the payment for golf carts.
Sun Apr 16, 2017, 08:50 AM
Apr 2017

The Secret Service is already paying for them.

One purchase order reviewed by CBS News shows the US Secret Service has spent $35,185 on golf cart rentals “for POTUS visit” in Palm Beach County, Florida since the President’s inauguration.


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/secret-service-costs-for-trump-family-protection-continue-to-mount/

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
9. Trump isn't conservative
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 10:07 AM
Apr 2017

we can pick off some of his voters a few at a time with stuff like this. He is wasting tax dollars on stuff that helps no one.

I encountered a Trumper who loves the cuts to social programs but is angered by the increase in defense spending. He wants tax cuts and less spending over all.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
23. Well, trump said all along he was going to increase defense,
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 11:57 AM
Apr 2017

so that guy shouldnt be shocked. It always amazed me how the same folks who were hollering for a true conservative rushed to support a guy who has been a Democrat far longer than a republican!

angrychair

(8,698 posts)
11. She wrote herself an escape hatch
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 10:31 AM
Apr 2017

She stated

I’m sorry, but that’s indefensible. Unless he’s paying the $3.3 million dollars PER TRIP it takes to travel to Mar-a-Lago out of his own pocket, I fail to see how he can defend this after being so critical of the former president.


You do see that saying "Unless he’s paying the $3.3 million dollars" is the built-in dodge to later praise him and ignore the hypocrisy completely?
She easily transitioned from "indefensible" to a way to excuse it effortlessly.

The man that said he would never have time for golf has already played more golf than Obama did his entire first term. He is on to play more golf in a year than Obama did in eight.

She is no different than all republicans, fuck all republicans.
 

7962

(11,841 posts)
24. How's that an "escape hatch"? He's NOT going to start paying!!
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 12:02 PM
Apr 2017

if he does, i may fall to the floor in a faint.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
12. I can't believe the nerve of him.
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 10:52 AM
Apr 2017

He doesn't even seem to care that he is costing the US taxpayer so much money while cutting every social program he can get his tiny, grubby mitts on. It's disgusting! Can nothing be done to rein him in?

dalton99a

(81,468 posts)
14. Public pressure. The House could cut off funding for his extracurricular activities
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 10:58 AM
Apr 2017

but the probability of this happening is approximately zero

ecstatic

(32,699 posts)
13. Very disturbing comments from his die hard supporters:
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 10:56 AM
Apr 2017
It's his place..he owns it. No he doesn't pay for his stay but secret Sevier and plane cost us but I don't care as long as he keeps doing what he's doing

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I was told that to Florida he takes his own plane.

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Since he starts his work day around 6 am and ends after 11 pm, I say taking working weekends at Mar-a-Lago are well deserved. I'm certain he feels his family is much safer there than in D C. He has already accomplished more in less than 100 days than the previous president did in 8 years...all the while facing constant and unrelenting negative attacks from all sides...I AM VERY THANKFUL DONALD J. TRUMP IS OUR PRESIDENT!

----

A lot of unknowns and speculation
here. Do we know the government is paying for these trips? I read that all costs for lodging and food for security are being covered by President Trump. So, we have transportation costs. Secret service gets paid regardless of where they are. Mar Lago has private security but I am sure this is reinforced by secret service.

----

Rather him be anywhere but the backstabbing beltway... At least he is playing golf with leaders and not just celebrities...

----

CHICKSonTheWrong!
It is cheap compared to the $248 Million per day JUST for SECURITY to secure Obama PER DAY, every time he went to his Golf games overseas. Security on Pennsulvania Ave, DC is not that different to Mara largo which he owns and is ALREADY SECURED AND HAS NO DEMOCRAT ILLEGAL SURVEILLANCE THERE FROM
PREV. PUTUS TERRORIST SUPPORTER OBAMA TO LEAK CLASSIFIED INFO. Trump
uses it for a SECURE place to meet with Foreign Leaders but without the
illegal wire taps by Moslem terrorist spy friends of Obama whom by the
way hes decided NOT to retire from Trying to Destroy our Nation is still...


I can't.

rurallib

(62,411 posts)
36. that works out to
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 04:26 PM
Apr 2017

(if my calculator is correct)
$90,520,000,000 or 90 billion a year.

When you lie, lie big!

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
43. He's confused
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 07:59 PM
Apr 2017

The real number according to some guy on Facebook was eleventy-jillion-gazillion-skazillion dollars.


tsuukiyomi

(20 posts)
35. "$248 Million per day. . . to secure Obama"
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 04:10 PM
Apr 2017

That's uhhhhh. . .

quite a number that they got.

Probably from where ever Sean Spicer and KaC get their alt. facts from, I'd imagine.

bdamomma

(63,845 posts)
46. this comment takes the chocolate cake
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 09:28 PM
Apr 2017
Since he starts his work day around 6 am and ends after 11 pm, I say taking working weekends at Mar-a-Lago are well deserved. I'm certain he feels his family is much safer there than in D C. He has already accomplished more in less than 100 days than the previous president did in 8 years...all the while facing constant and unrelenting negative attacks from all sides...I AM VERY THANKFUL DONALD J. TRUMP IS OUR PRESIDENT!


He is living in alternative facts. Rather delusional comments.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
48. His "work day" consists of punching the TV remote...
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 09:45 PM
Apr 2017

And maybe pecking out an insane tweet or two. He might do a photo-op, then take another in a series of naps.

Delusional is right!

VOX

(22,976 posts)
47. I know we're supposed to "reach out and not ignore" these folks...
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 09:40 PM
Apr 2017

But Jeezus H. Christ, they are Category 5 Stupid. Stupid on steroids. Extra-super-mega-stupid. Hypnotized cult-member stupid.

Imagine them giving Obama a pass on ANY issue similar to #45's assorted gaffes and debacles. They'd be screaming like the apes confronting the monolith in "2001."

catbyte

(34,376 posts)
16. And still the Drumpfcultists are making excuses for it, saying he "deserves it" because he's
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 11:33 AM
Apr 2017

"working so hard for all of us." I really wish that stupidity and willful ignorance were physically painful.

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
21. Isn't he personally profiting from these junkets?
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 11:51 AM
Apr 2017

The U.S. Government must be paying for Secret Service and accompanying government employee accommodations. That money would be going straight back to Trump properties. I want to know what the government is being billed for this and I also want to know if the charges are in line with fair market value.

My gut tells me this is a money making scheme for Trump.

lame54

(35,287 posts)
33. of course it is...
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 02:57 PM
Apr 2017

steak and lobster for everybody

you got the menu without the prices? don't worry about it

don't be shy with the mini bar


 

NewRedDawn

(790 posts)
38. Nail meet hammer.
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 06:16 PM
Apr 2017

The Grifter in Chief has figured it out; the more trips, the more he makes from us Tax payers.

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
50. "money making scheme for Trump" - Isn't everything? Ironic how...
Sun Apr 16, 2017, 12:38 AM
Apr 2017

... his suckers, er, voters believed that because he is a (supposedly) successful businessman and is (purportedly) rich, that he would be good for the economy and would, in short, make them individually wealthy. (Come on, what else they could they have believed?) But here's the irony: he is continuing to enrich himself (and they think that's just peachy keen)... by hoovering up THEIR money!

================

Midnight Writer

(21,753 posts)
51. He is also renting apartments to Secret Service. But no worry. He is donating salary.
Sun Apr 16, 2017, 01:18 AM
Apr 2017

I also see lobbyists and diplomat types are checking into his resorts and buying multiple two thousand dollar bottles of wine.



Good thing The President of the United States of America has divested his financial interests so that he can't be swayed by personal financial interests.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
22. You know
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 11:54 AM
Apr 2017

who needs to address this? The gop, the accounting office, the IRS. All should be putting the brakes on this deplorable waste of taxpayer money. Something else needs addressing - the cost of guarding tRump's entire family. They are not royalty. If they feel the need to be protected, then let them hire their own people.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
26. Trumpers, you've been Trumped! Bwahahahahaha.
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 12:07 PM
Apr 2017

He who laughs last, laughs best. Trump is laughing all the way to Mara a logo every weekend.

As Trump has said in the past, "I love spending OPM." (OPM = Other People's Money)

Add the savings of his footing the bill for all this travel, plus the travel of his family around the globe to conduct Trump organization business, plus the big profit from the govt paying Trump to rent an entire floor of the very expensive Trump Tower, plus the stays at his hotels by others seeking to curry favor with the Prez, and you've got a textbook case of what should NOT happen: A President profiteering from being President, while in office!

Don't forget that he will push policies favoring foreign countries he owes money to or that he wants special favors to do business in. We don't know which countries those are, since he didn't produce his tax returns, and Congress didn't do its job requesting to see them.

Trump Organization and family will leave the White House MUCH richer than when they went in.

Grrrrrrrrr. In the meantime, he wants to cut food programs for poor kids and the elderly, Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare, not to mention taking billions from the health care program to transfer to the wealthy in the form of tax cuts.

Trump is, and has always been, Trump-centric. His focus is MONEY, GREED, AND HIMSELF & FAMILY. That's it.

calimary

(81,225 posts)
29. Oh do tell, "chick on the right." Do tell.
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 01:10 PM
Apr 2017

I'll believe it when I see you testify that you didn't VOTE for him. All this soft-ball baloney about "I don't like this.." and "I don't like that..." doesn't impress me. If he's doing stuff you don't like, BUT YOU CONTINUE TO SUPPORT HIM, then your critiques really mean a whole lotta NOTHING.

teezy

(269 posts)
31. I thought there was squabbling about whether or not he IS taking a salary.
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 01:27 PM
Apr 2017

i thought I read that he donated the first $78,000? Or did he just say that he did?

Good for conservatives to acknowledge this out loud, but... How do they not have the brains to see the glaring hypocrisy in every other issue? Like the nepotism after republicans sqwauked so much about the Obama grandmother. And bombing Syria to loud praise after Republicans refused to let Obama go in there while simultaneously complaining that he wasn't doing anything about Syria.

And the list of hypocrisies is endless at this point. How do they not understand this? It's going to cost their party Congress in the coming years... Especially given how cruel the GOP is being to their citizens at town halls and the kinds of things they're passing.

If they want to save their party they're going to have to open their minds and accept the problems its members are causing the country and the world. They're going to have to call Trump out on his bullshit like well-intentioned conservatives do, such as Rick Wilson.

rurallib

(62,411 posts)
37. doesn't seem to mention that Trump companies profit from these trips
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 04:32 PM
Apr 2017

and i would guess he has already profited far beyond his $400,000 yearly salary.

So not only does it cost US a bundle, a portion goes directly to Benedict Donald in profit.
Not only does he not pay for the trip, he makes a profit every time he goes.

He doesn't make a profit staying in the White House.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
40. I attended the TAX MARCH
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 06:55 PM
Apr 2017

in San Diego while the Sociopath/Crook took a special route around the protesters at Mar-A-Lago. Poor guy had to go out of his way and was late for his $3.3 million golf game. #SAD!

I guess next weekend he'll have to be inconvenienced again to go avoid the Science March protesters.

Initech

(100,068 posts)
41. Sure, it's perfectly OK when their side does it...
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 07:37 PM
Apr 2017

Republican logic in a nutshell:

Obama spends time and money golfing.

GOP response: Obama is wasting time and money golfing when he should be working.

Trump's travel budget to Mar-A-Lago is double what Obama spent in two years

GOP response: Presedenting Is hard! Leave Trump alone!

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
42. Republicans suck.
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 07:57 PM
Apr 2017

Evidence and facts do not affect their thought process. From their point of view, they are right and anyone who disagrees with them is wrong. They have a simplistic view of the world which bears no resemblance to reality. Here is what it feels like to have a discussion with a republican; rinse, repeat.

bdamomma

(63,845 posts)
45. he keeps on saying
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 09:23 PM
Apr 2017

he inherited a mess??? but that is not stopping him from playing golf, what a jerk he is.

NBachers

(17,108 posts)
52. When he's on the premises, or the golf course down there, he's keeping the franchise alive.
Sun Apr 16, 2017, 02:12 AM
Apr 2017

More money in his pocket.

"Chicks" didn't say anything about Malignancy taking her own plane down, did she? I didn't want to infect myself with the whole article.

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
54. These are simple people, you know, morons. Better to
Sun Apr 16, 2017, 02:37 AM
Apr 2017

target moderate Republicans who only voted Trump because he wasn't Hillary. Those other morons are past caring about, other than figures of fun.

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
55. We all know......
Sun Apr 16, 2017, 02:59 AM
Apr 2017

that these things ONLY MATTER when a Democrat is in office. RepubliCANTS have carte blanch to spend taxpayer cash out of their butt holes for whatever purpose they deem fit. It's only those "damned libtards" that can't spend money wisely, dontcha' know.

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