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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 05:46 PM Apr 2017

Trump Right On H1B Visas AS MUCH AS I DESPISE HIM.

Even a blind squirrel finds nuts once in a while. Having worked at DOL for 24 years starting in 1974 and retiring in 1998 I always disliked the H1B program and other work visa programs. Business has exploited these programs for years. The GOP and some Democrats have favored expanding it which was nuts in my opinion.

I cannot begin to count the many Americans I interviewed who were REPLACED by these visa workers who had the same experience. We had a job clearance procedure where companies listed the jobs with the Employment Service. The requirements set forth were a sham with the job skills tailored after the resume of the person they wanted.

All the H1B program was was cheap labor replacing even military veterans in most cases. I agree that there is a need for such a program on a limited basis. But it has become a skate around paying American level wages. And it has been used to actually offshore jobs unnecessarily.

Sadly Trump is right on this issue. The H1B has been grossly abused since its inception.

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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
5. Of Course We Sadly Have Understand He Lies.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 05:50 PM
Apr 2017

If he were to give up his work forces under H2B and pay American wages to American workers, that would go a long way.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
6. That's because Congress was conservative and pro business
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 05:54 PM
Apr 2017

across both parties for so long, only a few liberals left and sticking out like sore thumbs.

The program should have been limited to fields where there was a true shortage of American workers, not a shortage of American workers willing to work cheap.

I know most big hospitals would simply not be able to function without nurses and occasional physicians here on H1B visas. The program has been great for health care where the problem is that we're not educating enough Americans to fill the jobs.

Now business has turned that into another racket and Congress does nothing.

Asshole won't, either, not after his golfing buddies complain.

Bettie

(16,105 posts)
7. Which is why, when I heard about this
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 06:09 PM
Apr 2017

I never gave it a second thought.

He will never go through with it, because it is good for workers. Someone will put a bug in his ear about it.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
8. I can tell you that you are correct, tech companies etc have been taking advantage of it like crazy.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 06:11 PM
Apr 2017

It's used as a way to get workers on the cheap. Exactly.

TNLib

(1,819 posts)
9. He's flipped flopped so much on this issue during the campaign
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 06:15 PM
Apr 2017

We'll see what happens with this executive order.

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
10. But will Trump distinguish between legit uses and exploitation?
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 06:17 PM
Apr 2017

In healthcare, we use H1-B's to service remote locations domestic physicians won't take (another unfortunate side effect of the rising cost of medical education). There are a lot of rural counties that wouldn't have specialists without the H1-B program.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. There may be abuse in the H1B visa program
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 06:24 PM
Apr 2017

I'm afraid I lack confidence that President Trump might have any workable solutions to curtail that abuse.

IronLionZion

(45,441 posts)
12. I want American coworkers
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 01:35 PM
Apr 2017

I'm really tired of being the token US citizen with hundreds of H1Bs at every contract, every company, every time.

I'm also real tired of being sent to relocate to different cities every few months. Not many Americans are willing to give up the life of owning a home and keeping kids in school throughout a whole school year. H1bs don't hesitate to pack up and move to the next contracting position across the country and pull their kids out of school during the school year.

While Silicon Valley and Seattle and other glamorous liberal tech cities make headlines, a lot of h1bs are sent to red states. On LinkedIn I get messages from headhunters speaking English as 3rd or 4rth language about the exciting opportunities in Iowa and Mississippi. Kansas recently had 2 Indians get shot by a racist and one of them died. Alabama is where some white cops made America great again in a way that put an elderly grandfather in the hospital with broken bones and he's now paralyzed.

But mostly I want visa reform because I'm getting real tired of idiot racists assuming I'm on a visa. Since being born in America doesn't make me American. I've been stealing jobs away from Americans my entire life way back to the lemonade stands on my street and mowing lawns for my neighbors.

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