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babylonsister

(171,065 posts)
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 06:28 PM Apr 2017

Who Among Us Has Not Misplaced an Aircraft Carrier?

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a54605/trump-aircraft-carrier-north-korea/

Who Among Us Has Not Misplaced an Aircraft Carrier?

The newest scene in our national tragicomedy.

By Charles P. Pierce
Apr 18, 2017



OK, somebody needs to explain how these things happen. From the NYT:

The problem was, the carrier, the Carl Vinson, and the four other warships in its strike force were at that very moment sailing in the opposite direction, to take part in joint exercises with the Australian Navy in the Indian Ocean, 3,500 miles southwest of the Korean Peninsula. White House officials said on Tuesday they were relying on guidance from the Defense Department. Officials there described a glitch-ridden sequence of events, from a premature announcement of the deployment by the military's Pacific Command to an erroneous explanation by Defense Secretary Jim Mattis — all of which perpetuated the false narrative that an American armada was racing toward the waters off North Korea. By the time the White House was asked about the Carl Vinson on April 11, its imminent arrival had been emblazoned on front pages across East Asia, fanning fears that Mr. Trump was considering a pre-emptive military strike on North Korea. It was portrayed as further evidence of the president's muscular style two days after he ordered a missile strike on Syria while he and President Xi Jinping of China were finishing dessert during a meeting in Florida.


Let us catch our breath for a minute and take stock.

These people misplaced an entire carrier attack group and then tried to bluff their way past it in a way guaranteed to make a crazy guy with a bad haircut and a huge army nervous.

Thank god my running mate advised us not to get too crazy about this.

This episode does not seem to be a lie as much as it seems to be a further demonstration of the clusterfckish management style there at Camp Runamuck. At this point, my faith in what the administration says is such that I believe that, when the missiles flew into Syria, the president* and Xi actually were splitting a Twinkie and a bottle of YooHoo.

A beautiful Twinkie.

And the best bottle of YooHoo you ever saw.
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Who Among Us Has Not Misplaced an Aircraft Carrier? (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 2017 OP
Are we tired of winning yet? beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #1
I Haven't ProfessorGAC Apr 2017 #2
Holy Hannah...there really is no one in charge... SticksnStones Apr 2017 #3
*cues Yakety Sax* JHan Apr 2017 #4
K & R Achilleaze Apr 2017 #5
Need to teach those Aussies a lesson grantcart Apr 2017 #6
The Keystone President. Solly Mack Apr 2017 #7
Just last week as matter of fact. MindPilot Apr 2017 #8
"Carrier group getting lost in the Pacific...what kind of Navy is this?!" MindPilot Apr 2017 #9
I really enjoyed that movie yuiyoshida Apr 2017 #17
I'm a huge fan of time travel movies and that is one of my favorites MindPilot Apr 2017 #53
Hello, Dimitri? DefenseLawyer Apr 2017 #10
+1 fountainofyouth Apr 2017 #22
Odds are they haven't seen it GP6971 Apr 2017 #42
Heehee!!! paleotn Apr 2017 #25
My favorite movie of all time! yardwork Apr 2017 #33
Who knew being in charge of the U.S. Military could be so complicated? Flaleftist Apr 2017 #11
Really. Isn't it about like playing war with plastic ships and planes like my little brother did? Amaryllis Apr 2017 #15
Crazy guy with bad haircut and huge army? jmowreader Apr 2017 #12
He told us it's "my military". . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #21
What did he do, kick out everyone who was in "Obama's military"? jmowreader Apr 2017 #24
I lost one once. Thankfully it only caused me to have one less ship for Battleship. tonyt53 Apr 2017 #13
one "fewer" ship FailureToCommunicate Apr 2017 #35
My only consolation is their incompetence mcar Apr 2017 #14
Let's say we launch a preemptive strike GP6971 Apr 2017 #50
Stick close to your tee ananda Apr 2017 #16
LOVED - the title of your post! n/m bagelsforbreakfast Apr 2017 #18
Charlie Pierce not fooled Apr 2017 #44
I have! gay texan Apr 2017 #19
Yet again tRump blames the US military Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #20
Yeah I caught that too. Volaris Apr 2017 #28
It's someone else's fault...... again and again and again keithbvadu2 Apr 2017 #36
They aren't going to let that continue AwakeAtLast Apr 2017 #47
Hey, it's all part of Trump not wanting to "telegraph his intentions..." Rollo Apr 2017 #23
well that's where it was in his bathtub world Saturday night rurallib Apr 2017 #26
Eternal Cretin. Guilded Lilly Apr 2017 #27
Love Charles Pierce! Thanks for posting. spooky3 Apr 2017 #29
Back in the 1950's I lost a submarine. It ran on baking powder and was free in a cereal box. rzemanfl Apr 2017 #30
lol!! nt babylonsister Apr 2017 #32
There were GP6971 Apr 2017 #37
That's right! Remember the little steam boats made of tin that were powered by a tiny rzemanfl Apr 2017 #39
Kellogs something- rzemanfl Apr 2017 #41
Here you go. rzemanfl Apr 2017 #46
From Wiki GP6971 Apr 2017 #43
Baking powder! Thank you. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2017 #45
I had one of those! jpak Apr 2017 #49
Cool. I did not have the Frogmen though. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2017 #52
Oh, I do that all the time. Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #31
the hunt for orange october? unblock Apr 2017 #34
But I bet it was the most beautiful piece of Amimnoch Apr 2017 #38
Tell Trump I found it... FailureToCommunicate Apr 2017 #40
"Camp Runamuck" kimmylavin Apr 2017 #48
The title almost sounds biblical. nt defacto7 Apr 2017 #51
 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
8. Just last week as matter of fact.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 06:47 PM
Apr 2017

But then i work for a defense contractor where we build the things so it's not unusual for one to go missing.

As it turns out, it had just fallen behind my desk.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
17. I really enjoyed that movie
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 08:02 PM
Apr 2017

and thought their Japanese Prisoner, was pretty cool... but actually his name is Soon-Tek Oh, and he is a Korean actor. It figures they couldn't find a Japanese actor to play that part. But hey, he's Korean, close enough... (Crazy).
 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
53. I'm a huge fan of time travel movies and that is one of my favorites
Wed Apr 19, 2017, 12:43 PM
Apr 2017

Intersting bit of trivia about the Korean actor.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
12. Crazy guy with bad haircut and huge army?
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 07:11 PM
Apr 2017

Are you talking about OUR crazy guy with the bad haircut and huge army, or North Korea's? Sometimes it's hard to tell them apart, except that Trump smells like flop sweat and desperation, and Kim Jong-il smells like kimchi - a much sweeter and milder fragrance.

The only explanation for this is total incompetence on the part of this administration. The Navy KNOWS where its surface ships are. It would have been very easy to find a carrier group close to North Korea and send it there, but Trump just couldn't be bothered to ask.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
24. What did he do, kick out everyone who was in "Obama's military"?
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 08:33 PM
Apr 2017

Seriously Donald? If someone arrived at his or her basic training post the morning you were inaugurated, they'd still be in training. There's no freakin' way they're "your military."

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
35. one "fewer" ship
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 08:47 PM
Apr 2017

(Sorry, I couldn't help myself. It's just that I'm so distraught because I seem to have misplaced MY carrier group as well...)

mcar

(42,331 posts)
14. My only consolation is their incompetence
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 07:19 PM
Apr 2017

Even when they try to start a nuclear war, they f#@k it up.

GP6971

(31,158 posts)
50. Let's say we launch a preemptive strike
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:18 PM
Apr 2017

nuke or non-nuke. My fear is that this administration is so incompetent that they would target targets in S Korea vs. N Korea. Geography isn't their strong suit.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
20. Yet again tRump blames the US military
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 08:17 PM
Apr 2017
White House officials said on Tuesday they were relying on guidance from the Defense Department.

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
23. Hey, it's all part of Trump not wanting to "telegraph his intentions..."
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 08:30 PM
Apr 2017

Not to NK, not to Syria, not to his own navy...

rzemanfl

(29,557 posts)
30. Back in the 1950's I lost a submarine. It ran on baking powder and was free in a cereal box.
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 08:38 PM
Apr 2017

Last edited Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:11 PM - Edit history (1)

It was later located under the soap in my bath. I'm sure others here have had the same experience.

rzemanfl

(29,557 posts)
39. That's right! Remember the little steam boats made of tin that were powered by a tiny
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 08:52 PM
Apr 2017

candle? You had to buy those.

GP6971

(31,158 posts)
43. From Wiki
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 09:01 PM
Apr 2017

Baking powder submarine


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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A baking powder submarine is a plastic toy submarine that dives and surfaces with the addition of baking powder. Baking powder submarines are sometimes misidentified as "baking soda submarines"; however, baking soda alone does not react when placed in water.


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Contents [hide]
1 History
2 Principle of operation
3 In popular culture
4 Notes
5 External links


History[edit]

In 1953 Benjamin and Harry Hirsch, two brothers in a cosmetics company, discovered that carbon dioxide gas bubbles produced in wet baking powder as part of the chemical leavening process could be used to make a toy submarine dive up and down in fresh water.

They sold their idea to the Kellogg's breakfast cereal company in 1954.[1]:34 Buoyed by the popularity of the first American atomic submarine USS Nautilus commissioned in that year, a million 4.5-inch (110 mm) plastic ship model prizes were produced by May. They were mailed out in return for a fee of 25 cents and one cereal boxtop. A smaller 2.5-inch (64 mm) version was later produced to be used as a cereal box prize not requiring separate redemption by mail

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