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raccoon

(31,110 posts)
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 07:02 AM Apr 2017

Open Carry in SC--how many SC people will FREAK if it's a black guy openly carrying?

Or any non-white person?

In SC state legislature:

H.3930 was sent to the Senate, providing authorization to carry a handgun in public without a permit, either openly or concealed, implementing "Constitutional carry" in South Carolina. The new provisions for carrying a handgun lawfully in public without a requirement for obtaining a concealable weapon permit apply only to those individuals who legally purchase a firearm from a properly licensed and certified firearms dealer. This bill also provides for SC to honor valid out-of-state permits to carry that are held by residents of other states who are at least 21 years old or military personnel.

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Open Carry in SC--how many SC people will FREAK if it's a black guy openly carrying? (Original Post) raccoon Apr 2017 OP
The NRA never comes to the defense of black guys with a gun. DetlefK Apr 2017 #1
Like John Walker immediately shot by a cop because he tblue37 Apr 2017 #10
None? ileus Apr 2017 #2
Remember Dallas? duncang Apr 2017 #3
Are you sure? ret5hd Apr 2017 #5
Thanks for posting that. nt raccoon Apr 2017 #8
one question burnbaby Apr 2017 #12
Like maybe the black guy walking thru the middle/upper class white neighborhood? ret5hd Apr 2017 #14
Suppose they were dressed the same, in the same neighborhood, and treated the same caraher Apr 2017 #20
then the argument would based burnbaby Apr 2017 #21
If you note the uniforms they intentionally chose different places to film that video Lee-Lee Apr 2017 #17
what you said nt burnbaby Apr 2017 #19
How many cops showed up at the end of that video? LOL bathroommonkey76 Apr 2017 #23
Do you live edhopper Apr 2017 #15
Not many I suspect... Baconator Apr 2017 #4
South Carolina: The Cradle of Secession & Dylann Roof's birthplace... VOX Apr 2017 #6
Yep, same as in Oregon as in the video clip, post #5. nt raccoon Apr 2017 #9
As gov of CA, Ronald Reagan signed a fun control tblue37 Apr 2017 #7
I've always thought the key to gun control in this country is getting black guys to open carry. Vinca Apr 2017 #11
Yep and yep Cosmocat Apr 2017 #13
black people open carry all the time, you should YouTube more snooper2 Apr 2017 #16
I have given the NC and TN CCW class to hundreds of minorities Lee-Lee Apr 2017 #18
This law wouldn't require a permit. raccoon Apr 2017 #22
The law didn't seem to apply when Tamir Rice was shot in Ohio. StevieM Apr 2017 #24

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
1. The NRA never comes to the defense of black guys with a gun.
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 07:08 AM
Apr 2017

Cops shoot black guy.
Cops say it was a split-second decision because he had a gun.
Except that he had the constitutional right to have that gun.
And the NRA somehow has no interest in standing up for this guy's gun-rights...

tblue37

(65,357 posts)
10. Like John Walker immediately shot by a cop because he
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 08:15 AM
Apr 2017

held an air gun he had picked up off the shelf in Walmart. IOW, He might have been planning to purchase it.

He was holding it in a nonthreatening way as he talked on his cell phone--actually barrel down, slightly swinging it and sometimes putting the end of the barrel on the floor as though the air gun were a cane.

This was in an open carry state where white guys deliberately go into stores with rifles slung over their shoulders to prove they have the right to open carry.

But the cop shot him on sight, without even a warning.




duncang

(1,907 posts)
3. Remember Dallas?
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 07:23 AM
Apr 2017

The guy who was legally carrying a weapon picture was posted all over the place as the shooter. Even msm was bringing it up before he got cleared. So people have been shown to freak out.

 

burnbaby

(685 posts)
12. one question
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 08:28 AM
Apr 2017

why did those filming only show a wee bit on the white guy? For all we know they could have hand cuffed him too and ran a check.

I also noticed the different neighborhoods which probably played a role in their actions.

what I would have liked to have seen is both men dressed the same and in the same neighborhood.

ret5hd

(20,491 posts)
14. Like maybe the black guy walking thru the middle/upper class white neighborhood?
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 08:47 AM
Apr 2017

Yeah, I'm sure that woulda gone better.

caraher

(6,278 posts)
20. Suppose they were dressed the same, in the same neighborhood, and treated the same
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 09:24 AM
Apr 2017

I'd still find it very problematic that one's rights and treatment by law enforcement depends on the neighborhood and clothing!

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
17. If you note the uniforms they intentionally chose different places to film that video
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 09:03 AM
Apr 2017

Totally different agencies and jurisdictions that can have a host of different SOP's and concerns.

So it really doesn't prove anything, but serves to cement preconceived notions of viewers who won't look past what they want to see to see how the people making that film manipulated circumstances to get what they wanted.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
6. South Carolina: The Cradle of Secession & Dylann Roof's birthplace...
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 08:01 AM
Apr 2017

Where non-white people can barely sneak a drink from a public water fountain without being arrested. Klan rules state that they should not be taught to read or write, and they sure as hell *can't* carry, let alone own firearms!


Even with sarcasm offset, it's a safe bet that some white folks in SC still think that way. Which is reprehensible.

tblue37

(65,357 posts)
7. As gov of CA, Ronald Reagan signed a fun control
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 08:07 AM
Apr 2017

bill after the sight of Black Panthers exercising their Second Amendment rights freaked out a lot of white people.

Vinca

(50,271 posts)
11. I've always thought the key to gun control in this country is getting black guys to open carry.
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 08:15 AM
Apr 2017

Big risk to them, though.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
18. I have given the NC and TN CCW class to hundreds of minorities
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 09:08 AM
Apr 2017

Black, Hispanic, LGBTQ, anyone else who wants to learn.

Never had one of my students ever report any issues.

People make a lot of assumptions about stuff they haven't ever done or tried.

raccoon

(31,110 posts)
22. This law wouldn't require a permit.
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 04:13 PM
Apr 2017
The new provisions for carrying a handgun lawfully in public without a requirement for obtaining a concealable weapon permit
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