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If we can't get rid of this idiot, we're doomed. n/t TreasonousBastard Apr 2017 #1
It must be a brain defect that causes a person to become a Republican. Vinca Apr 2017 #2
Republicans don't care about the general public's health, safety and welfare. CottonBear Apr 2017 #3
They don't care at all Afromania Apr 2017 #4
Ain't that the sad truth. CottonBear Apr 2017 #13
Until and/or unless it hits home - and hits home HARD. calimary Apr 2017 #25
I use that on libertarian "christians" all the time... paleotn Apr 2017 #35
Yeah. I tried a little of that yesterday at the March for Science. Among friendlies. calimary Apr 2017 #41
It's just legalized campaign bribery sharedvalues Apr 2017 #44
Did she vote for him? n/t malaise Apr 2017 #5
That is The Question of the Year. calimary Apr 2017 #26
Member of the Freedom Caucus aka Republicans who seriously want to kill 24 million Americans dalton99a Apr 2017 #6
Do Congressfolk pay for their health insurance? - Think of the word 'subsidies' keithbvadu2 Apr 2017 #7
We do have the same insurance as congress critters do... usedtobedemgurl Apr 2017 #10
HOWEVER, they get a subsidy which covers 72% of the premiums. groundloop Apr 2017 #14
Then they would not need the exceptions keithbvadu2 Apr 2017 #16
Ouch -- Looks like OH8 is gonna be an easily flippable seat -- no problem. ATL Ebony Apr 2017 #8
I wouldn't bet on it. PdxSean Apr 2017 #11
You'd like to think that but I live in this district. It is gerrymandered in such a way to ensure airmid Apr 2017 #17
Gerrymandering takes place when the bad guys own most of it at the state level. calimary Apr 2017 #45
Ohio is a cesspool of Tea Party members, wingnuts, and White Nationalists. When Boehner left I just airmid Apr 2017 #46
Welcome to DU, airmid! calimary Apr 2017 #47
Obviously, her son should run for Congress, then. Buns_of_Fire Apr 2017 #9
Sadly, this is how most of them think. dawg Apr 2017 #12
How about the son taking THIS Scarsdale Apr 2017 #15
first off . can yoou give me a better job, what if i am disabled you moran AllaN01Bear Apr 2017 #18
the rest of his interview was as equally shameful samnsara Apr 2017 #19
So who is supposed to work in those jobs? greymattermom Apr 2017 #20
Every time this asshole sits down in a restaurant for a meal Mr. Ected Apr 2017 #21
Or sneeze and cough constantly while serving him csziggy Apr 2017 #22
Hey Asshole Warren Davidson .......................reread this again, what you said in quotes turbinetree Apr 2017 #23
How on earth do people of such exceptional cruelty and indifference get smirkymonkey Apr 2017 #24
Time for Warren to get a job in the private sector! bronxiteforever Apr 2017 #27
If they don't care if fellow Americans die, maybe they don't mind killing a few as well. Doodley Apr 2017 #28
This is a common response. MY response to that is that SOMEONE is going to work in that job. Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Mz Pip Apr 2017 #30
screw 'em! paleotn Apr 2017 #31
Mom should have countered DeminPennswoods Apr 2017 #32
They don't believe in minimum wages either... paleotn Apr 2017 #37
And that attitude is what will get the Republicans ousted leftyladyfrommo Apr 2017 #33
What a tightwad uncaring jerk! Left-over Apr 2017 #34
"..his skills are focused in an industry that doesn't have the kind of options..." A man who speaks WinkyDink Apr 2017 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author irisblue Apr 2017 #38
According to some here tazkcmo Apr 2017 #39
They would love to abolish unions and minimum wages BSdetect Apr 2017 #40
Another fine example of Republican Jesus. sarcasmo Apr 2017 #42
Anal Randian mentality from GOP Speaker Ryan on down. oasis Apr 2017 #43

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
1. If we can't get rid of this idiot, we're doomed. n/t
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 08:03 AM
Apr 2017

Vinca

(50,410 posts)
2. It must be a brain defect that causes a person to become a Republican.
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 08:05 AM
Apr 2017

As someone pointed out in the comments after that piece, if there are openings for 35 good jobs with great insurance and 135 people apply, that means 100 still don't have access to medical care. Someone should remind this idiot that he could easily be infected with a communicable disease while eating in a restaurant that doesn't provide medical coverage. Germs don't discriminate between Democrats and Republicans or rich and poor.

CottonBear

(21,602 posts)
3. Republicans don't care about the general public's health, safety and welfare.
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 08:20 AM
Apr 2017

The GOP wants all food service workers to toil without either healthcare or sick leave.

I worked as a cafe manager/barista for 4 years with no health insurance or sick leave. I went to work sick all the time because I was the sole employee on any shift that I worked.

Afromania

(2,772 posts)
4. They don't care at all
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 08:42 AM
Apr 2017

They just don't care at fucking all.

CottonBear

(21,602 posts)
13. Ain't that the sad truth.
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 09:26 AM
Apr 2017

They don't care even when it could affect their own personal health, safety and welfare.

calimary

(82,027 posts)
25. Until and/or unless it hits home - and hits home HARD.
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 10:32 AM
Apr 2017

They're of the mentality that whatever bad comes of this - will hit that guy or gal over there somewhere.

Matthew 25: 35-45. (The one about "whatever you do to the least of these, you do to Me".)

paleotn

(18,177 posts)
35. I use that on libertarian "christians" all the time...
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 11:12 AM
Apr 2017

And the fact that Christianity is at its core a socialist religion. From their origin myth thru Jesus...John 3:16.."for God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son..etc..etc....." Why? If God were a libertarian, he would simply say we made our bed since Adam and Eve and should lie in it. Humanity made bad choices according to their mythology, and by libertarian standards, should pay for those choices. By their own teaching, Jesus was the ultimate socialist...divvying out free health care and all....telling the rich young ruler to sell all he has, give it to the poor and come follow him (Mark 10:17-27, Matthew 19:16-22).

Bunch of commies.

calimary

(82,027 posts)
41. Yeah. I tried a little of that yesterday at the March for Science. Among friendlies.
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 12:01 PM
Apr 2017

We were discussing EXACTLY this.

And I posed the question: has ANY ONE of them, even ONE, EVER quoted to you the story of Jesus and the rich young man?

Resoundingly, everybody in our little group shook his/her head in the negative. Of course we hadn't. Because these so-called "Christians" don't do it. They haven't, EVER. They're the ones behind the "prosperity 'gospel'", "GAWD wants YOU to be RICH!!!!!"

Well, there's no such legitimate thing as the "prosperity gospel." Jesus was a POOR GUY. Jesus didn't own a home. He didn't even rent one. Everything we're taught about Him says He was homeless. Surviving on friends, cousins, followers, and fans. He was nomadic - walking His way from one end of Biblical-era Israel to another. Staying with friends, preaching in town squares - not some fancy offices or edifice. We're taught He wore a garment hand-woven by His mother - nothing he bought or had made or fitted. He didn't have much - except, literally, for the clothes on His back.

AND "worse," He hung out with the riffraff. Those people the "better" classes walked by without even looking at them. The sick, the outcast, people with leprosy, men with "bad" reputations, women with "bad" reputations, guys who collected taxes - whom we were taught were reviled by others in "polite society".

When the rich young man asked how he could join up, as you've pointed out, paleotn, indeed Jesus told him to sell everything he owned, give the proceeds to the poor, and come follow Him. How the story ended: the rich young ma went away. With sadness. Sad.

Any of these apostates
əˈpäˌstāt,əˈpästət/
noun
1.
a person who renounces a religious or political belief or principle.
synonyms: dissenter, defector, deserter, traitor, backslider, turncoat;
nonconformist;
schismatic;
archaicheretic;
rarerecusant, recreant, tergiversator
"after 50 years as an apostate, he returned to the faith"

adjective
1.
abandoning a religious or political belief or principle.

... who REALLY believed in Jesus and followed HIS teachings (or tried to follow His teachings, or revered HIS teachings as they all claim they do) would not hesitate to bring up that story at multiple opportunities. When they're interviewed, when they do their pass-the-plate TV "evangelism", or when they pontificate in the media - spoken or written, make their speeches and/or write their books.

They'd also repeatedly remind about the message of Matthew 25: 35-45 - the one about "whatever you do to the least of my brethren, you do to Me."

They'd also quote widely, loudly, and enthusiastically from The Beatitudes - wherein you will NOT find anything about "blessed are the greedy," or "blessed are the bullies," or "blessed are the warmakers."

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
44. It's just legalized campaign bribery
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 12:14 PM
Apr 2017

malaise

(270,809 posts)
5. Did she vote for him? n/t
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 08:48 AM
Apr 2017

calimary

(82,027 posts)
26. That is The Question of the Year.
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 10:33 AM
Apr 2017

The Abomination of the Year will be if, after all that, she still votes for him yet again, next time, too.

dalton99a

(82,126 posts)
6. Member of the Freedom Caucus aka Republicans who seriously want to kill 24 million Americans
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 08:53 AM
Apr 2017

keithbvadu2

(37,597 posts)
7. Do Congressfolk pay for their health insurance? - Think of the word 'subsidies'
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 08:54 AM
Apr 2017

Do Congressfolk pay for their health insurance?

(easy answer to the health insurance squabble::::::: make everyone eliglble for the same
health insurance that our Congressfolk enjoy)

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(start with the last paragraph of page 17127)

https://books.google.com/books?id=JJC7zJ5o8ioC&pg=PA17127&lpg=PA17127&dq=bush+health+insurance+good+enough+for+congress&source=bl&ots=6ygo-FQ5VU&sig=cUpmb2Oe9RhZcGUeNO78q1TbA-8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiRlLiB46zTAhWIrVQKHTdNA1I4ChDoAQgiMAA#v=onepage&q=bush%20health%20insurance%20good%20enough%20for%20congress&f=false


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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/04/17/do-members-of-congress-pay-for-100-percent-of-their-health-insurance/?utm_term=.a888a7d03d1d&wpisrc=nl_p1most-partner-1&wpmm=1

Do members of Congress pay for 100 percent of their health insurance?

usedtobedemgurl

(1,202 posts)
10. We do have the same insurance as congress critters do...
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 09:09 AM
Apr 2017

Obama made sure of that. They are on ACA as well.


"The ObamaCare Exemption for Congress is a myth. It turns out that reports that members of Congress will be exempt from ObamaCare are without merit. Members of Congress have to buy their health insurance on the exchanges along with millions of other Americans."

http://obamacarefacts.com/congress-obamacare/

groundloop

(11,633 posts)
14. HOWEVER, they get a subsidy which covers 72% of the premiums.
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 09:28 AM
Apr 2017

keithbvadu2

(37,597 posts)
16. Then they would not need the exceptions
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 09:44 AM
Apr 2017

"Although Congress will have to purchase their insurance through ObamaCare’s health insurance exchange like millions of other Americans they can choose any plan they wish. So while a typical American may only be able to afford a basic plan members of Congress will be able to choose the most expensive plans and pay the 40% excise tax that comes on the backs of these plans."

ATL Ebony

(1,097 posts)
8. Ouch -- Looks like OH8 is gonna be an easily flippable seat -- no problem.
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 08:56 AM
Apr 2017

PdxSean

(574 posts)
11. I wouldn't bet on it.
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 09:12 AM
Apr 2017

Republicans continue to vote for people who lack empathy because they too lack empathy.

airmid

(500 posts)
17. You'd like to think that but I live in this district. It is gerrymandered in such a way to ensure
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 09:50 AM
Apr 2017

that it would take a miracle to flip this district. It's why the DNC refuses to spend any money in this district on Dem challengers.

calimary

(82,027 posts)
45. Gerrymandering takes place when the bad guys own most of it at the state level.
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 12:20 PM
Apr 2017

Because if THEY'RE in charge in the years immediately after the census is taken and the results are presented, then THEY get to reapportion the congressional districts. THEIR secretary of state certifies it, and THEIR governor formally approves it.

SOMEHOW we have to figure out how to flip enough of 'em that WE start prevailing at the state level again.

And yet, I'm also reminded about the Kansas district that was up for grabs a few weeks ago. We lost (again). But we lost by a remarkably small margin, considering how easy a free pass all things republi-CON had enjoyed there in the past. The DNC didn't bother with that one, either. What if they had? I've heard the speculation that if there'd been greater and more prominent support there, and the DNC had made it a priority, we could have narrowed that already surprisingly narrow gap all the way to the winner's circle.

There are FAR too many districts and even states - where the Dems haven't bothered to put up even a small fight. Just wrote it off, from the get-go. Without even blinking. Howard Dean complained about that before he was DNC chair. He talked repeatedly about visiting some of these districts in enemy territory and hearing from Democrats who were, politically-speaking, starving. STARVING! Starving for support, attention, ANY kind of assistance or backing. They were abandoned. And he described how they complained to him - they'd asked, begged, called, sent and left messages, pleaded - for some support. They'd tell him "Hey! We're here too! We've got Democrats here. Right HERE! NEEDING your help! PLEASE!!! We could even win this if we ONLY had some support! We NEED the resources!!! PLEASE!!!" And these people were just ignored. Their needs and their pleas just blown off. No, we have to focus on the "battleground states."

Well, SCREW THAT!!! That's SPECTACULARLY IDIOTIC! EVERY state is a battleground state. And Democrats should run somebody in EVERY election! How many of those seats in the state legislatures and even Congress - where no Democrats bothered even trying to run? The CON ran unopposed. Or maybe a Peace & Freedom party ran or some such odd-man-out. But there were no Democrats on the ballot. Those Democrats in those places didn't even have a choice! They weren't just not represented, they didn't even have anybody in the running to TRY to represent them, or at least bring THEIR concerns into the campaign and then the voting booth!

THAT'S what has to stop. THAT'S what I hope is changing. It is a political mortal sin to leave seats and opposing party candidates unopposed. A MORTAL SIN! It is a political mortal sin NOT to run SOMEBODY in there. To embrace defeat before it's even time to start a campaign. That is freakin' UNTHINKABLE! And UNFORGETTABLE! Or it SHOULD be!

airmid

(500 posts)
46. Ohio is a cesspool of Tea Party members, wingnuts, and White Nationalists. When Boehner left I just
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 12:26 PM
Apr 2017

knew we were going to get one of the above. Warren Davidson is the result....

calimary

(82,027 posts)
47. Welcome to DU, airmid!
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 12:33 PM
Apr 2017

After all that blathering I did, farther up, I totally forgot to say "Welcome to DU!" Sorry about that.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,328 posts)
9. Obviously, her son should run for Congress, then.
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 09:04 AM
Apr 2017

Salary: $174,000/year plus perks out the wazoo.
General requirements: Can you breathe without instructions?
Other requirements: Ability to know what to kiss, and when.

dawg

(10,632 posts)
12. Sadly, this is how most of them think.
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 09:15 AM
Apr 2017

And not just the politicians. The voters, too.

And they are the majority. What the hell is wrong with people?

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
15. How about the son taking THIS
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 09:28 AM
Apr 2017

"representative's" job? No talents needed, just kiss ass, take lobbyist money, and get GREAT healthcare and pension provided by the gullible taxpayers. They only work part time, too.

AllaN01Bear

(19,992 posts)
18. first off . can yoou give me a better job, what if i am disabled you moran
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 09:59 AM
Apr 2017

and id like a job where i live , not somewhere else . thank you very much.

samnsara

(17,742 posts)
19. the rest of his interview was as equally shameful
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 10:06 AM
Apr 2017

greymattermom

(5,756 posts)
20. So who is supposed to work in those jobs?
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 10:14 AM
Apr 2017

How about separating health care from jobs?

Mr. Ected

(9,678 posts)
21. Every time this asshole sits down in a restaurant for a meal
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 10:18 AM
Apr 2017

The wait staff should refuse him service.

Without the service industry, he eats no food, he receives no service.

"If you wanted to eat, maybe you should have chosen to prepare it yourself".

csziggy

(34,150 posts)
22. Or sneeze and cough constantly while serving him
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 10:21 AM
Apr 2017

"Oh, sorry, I don't have healthcare or sick leave so if I want to pay my rent and eat I HAVE to work while ill."

turbinetree

(24,790 posts)
23. Hey Asshole Warren Davidson .......................reread this again, what you said in quotes
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 10:21 AM
Apr 2017

“OK, I don’t know anything about your son, but as you described him, his skills are focused in an industry that doesn’t have the kind of options that you want him to have for health care. So, I don’t believe that these taxpayers here are entitled to give that to him. I believe he’s got the opportunity to go earn those health benefits,”



It my "liberal" way of thinking your "skills" in an industry, yes your in a f***ing industry of greed and corruption means in my way of thinking that you don't need health care and you need to find a job from an employer that will give you health care so that you can "earn" those benefits also asshole and since your lack of job performance review is coming up this 2018, maybe, and there is a strong chance you can be fired for that lack of job performance and then you can go find a "skilled" job.
And if your "new" employer asks why you left the other "job" why don't you tell him that you had to leave because your an asshole and didn't produce any thing meaningful for the client.

And since you have "no skills" except to just plain "hurt" people you really should go f*** yourself and the horse you road in on, since you only have a "unskilled job" you are, in closing a f***ing asshole.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
24. How on earth do people of such exceptional cruelty and indifference get
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 10:23 AM
Apr 2017

elected into office? Are their constituents really THAT fucking stupid and evil? I'm not sure I want to know the answer.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
27. Time for Warren to get a job in the private sector!
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 10:37 AM
Apr 2017

Gopers hate government but lord do they love their government jobs!

Doodley

(9,277 posts)
28. If they don't care if fellow Americans die, maybe they don't mind killing a few as well.
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 10:41 AM
Apr 2017

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
29. This is a common response. MY response to that is that SOMEONE is going to work in that job.
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 10:44 AM
Apr 2017

To say "You should get a better job" is to say that job and business shouldn't exist, in the first place. Because if "Bob" gets a better job, SOMEONE ELSE will then have that job, and will have the SAME ISSUE.

Let's say Bob is a mechanic in a mid-size city. Those mechanic shops don't provide insurance because they can't afford to. So Bob finally gets a job at a retail place making less money but with insurance benefits. Good for Bob. But that mechanic shop NEEDS a mechanic and still can't afford to provide insurance, so someone else will take Bob's job. That someone else, then, will not have insurance or make enough money to buy it.

And so the cycle goes. Can you imagine what the economy would be if all small businesses shut down because they can't afford to provide health care?

What this politician REALLY believes is: I don't care about people w/o insurance; they must be deadbeats; my money is my money and I get to keep it all and don't owe anything to the country or society that allowed me to make my money; I don't even know anyone who works at jobs like that, so I can't relate at all; everyone should be like me and mine - rich. If you're not, you are either stupid or a deadbeat.

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paleotn

(18,177 posts)
31. screw 'em!
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 10:51 AM
Apr 2017

let them die. I don't care. I got mine. fuck them.

Simple sounding, libertarian bullshit, that once run through the filters of logic and common human decency, reduces down to "I'm a greedy sociopath, and could care less if everyone else dies as long as I've got mine." That's pretty much their entire ethos.

They're the assholes in the neighborhood who never lift a finger to help anyone else...ever...but boo, hoo, hoo when they need a little help, and those of us who know they're assholes libertarians are slow to respond. It seems their philosophy only works for them and never, ever in the other direction.

DeminPennswoods

(15,354 posts)
32. Mom should have countered
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 10:54 AM
Apr 2017

and asked if her rep supported a $15/hr minimum wage so her son might not need to be on medicaid. That's wat Gov Wolf did in his budget, recommended a min wage hike and let the state Rs know it would save on medicaid.

paleotn

(18,177 posts)
37. They don't believe in minimum wages either...
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 11:25 AM
Apr 2017

Their thinking is the mysterious, magical market should drive wages from top to bottom. It appears they think Somalia and South Sudan are a better model for society than liberal western democracies. They truly are sick puppies.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,910 posts)
33. And that attitude is what will get the Republicans ousted
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 11:02 AM
Apr 2017

In the next election.

They are insufferable Jerks. And it is really starting to show.

Left-over

(234 posts)
34. What a tightwad uncaring jerk!
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 11:07 AM
Apr 2017
 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
36. "..his skills are focused in an industry that doesn't have the kind of options..." A man who speaks
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 11:12 AM
Apr 2017

like this should burn eternally.

Preferably starting soon.

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tazkcmo

(7,320 posts)
39. According to some here
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 11:27 AM
Apr 2017

He's right. Time after time, right here on DU, I've read posts declaring food service jobs as jobs meant for school aged children with no skills and that a decent wage with benefits is undeserved. This is, of course, is hogwash. Restaurants are open during school hours and late nights when school aged people are usually unable to work. As a cook in 1980, I was paid as much as I was paid for hanging drywall and packing shingles and was able to afford my own apartment and the associated costs of providing for myself. These places are and have been staffed by adults with real skills, talent and knowledge of food borne illnesses and how to prevent them.

But screw 'em. No, these jobs can be filled by anyone according to supposed liberals right here on this board so it's not surprising to hear the exact same thing coming from a GOPee-er.

BSdetect

(9,019 posts)
40. They would love to abolish unions and minimum wages
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 11:29 AM
Apr 2017

and make workers bid for their jobs on a daily basis.

That's how shitheaded they are.

Meanwhile "I rake in high wages and sneer at you" is their attitude.



sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
42. Another fine example of Republican Jesus.
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 12:06 PM
Apr 2017

oasis

(50,019 posts)
43. Anal Randian mentality from GOP Speaker Ryan on down.
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 12:10 PM
Apr 2017
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