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Rep. Cummings: White House refuses to provide a single piece of paper #Flynn #Russia (Original Post) L. Coyote Apr 2017 OP
White House rejects Oversight request for Flynn documents L. Coyote Apr 2017 #1
More news and a video: it does not appear Flynn "complied with the law" L. Coyote Apr 2017 #7
Essentially, the white house is saying that if it happened before January 20, 2017 Calista241 Apr 2017 #31
Not surprising and very typical of the Reich-wing. Grins Apr 2017 #35
Apparently the PS got cut off..... Grammy23 Apr 2017 #41
No surprise there NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #2
What consequences are there for refusing to comply with House Oversight? OliverQ Apr 2017 #3
Contempt charges? ...nt 2naSalit Apr 2017 #5
Subpoenas, the exerting executive privilege, stonewalling, but hey, Flynn wants to talk. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #12
*exasperated sigh* 2naSalit Apr 2017 #14
Question is does Flynn want to talk because he actually knows something extremely illegal that Trump cstanleytech Apr 2017 #30
He is rightly worried he is the scapegoat. He was fired to cover for VP Pence, L. Coyote Apr 2017 #39
Donald Trumps man on the Hill is actually Pence's man L. Coyote Apr 2017 #42
Maybe, maybe not but regardless he should not be granted immunity until after he provides something cstanleytech Apr 2017 #44
Perhaps he has already worn a wire on Trump and Pence. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #45
To be honest I suspect that if he actually had something on Trump he would be wearing cstanleytech Apr 2017 #46
Wish I could read 90% of this thread Orrex Apr 2017 #4
+1 2naSalit Apr 2017 #6
You can catch up later. Twitter is where news breaks first. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #8
Or DU's twitter regurgitators could self-identify as such, as a courtesy Orrex Apr 2017 #9
Or, you can do a search and find the news for yourself. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #13
Yeah, why would I blame you for posting a zero-content OP? Orrex Apr 2017 #16
The content is there, it is major breaking news. Why are you blind to it? L. Coyote Apr 2017 #17
I'm not blind to it. Orrex Apr 2017 #18
Who can't see Twitter? If you can, why do you complain. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #19
I can't, nor can many others who've expressed similar frustration Orrex Apr 2017 #22
You are welcome to avoid this thread instead of bombing it with negative comments. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #25
You could have avoided it with a simple gesture requiring minimal effort Orrex Apr 2017 #26
As you interpret it rather than as it may be collectively interpreted. LanternWaste Apr 2017 #32
I appreciate the twitter updates. LOL Lib Apr 2017 #33
I'm not crying about anything, so let me tell you where you can file your opinion Orrex Apr 2017 #61
Cry harder.... LOL Lib Apr 2017 #62
Right. You call me a snowflake, but I'm the one who's nasty Orrex Apr 2017 #63
dKos: BREAKING: White House Denies House Oversight Committee's Request L. Coyote Apr 2017 #10
I love watching Congressman Cummings work Gothmog Apr 2017 #11
He set the trap a good while ago - Nov. 18 letter to Pence with Flynn warning! L. Coyote Apr 2017 #59
Again, Elijah Cummings is an amazing attorney and I love watching him set up people Gothmog Apr 2017 #60
if they have subpoena power...subpoena them NOW spanone Apr 2017 #15
They are guilty as well; coverup! triron Apr 2017 #20
WA Post - NY Times: White House Refuses to Turn Over Flynn Documents L. Coyote Apr 2017 #21
It's gonna be a long four years ismnotwasm Apr 2017 #23
But didn't Rep. Cummings tell Trump he was the greatest President ever created? Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2017 #24
Contempt of Congress charge should be brought IMMEDIATELY! Chasstev365 Apr 2017 #27
That would follow on a subpoena, which should be forthcoming. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #28
Congressional oversight? bucolic_frolic Apr 2017 #29
What's Trump hiding? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2017 #34
Worked out well for Nixon, didn't it? (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #36
Cover up. Plain and simple. Only those with something to hide do not cooperate. ffr Apr 2017 #37
"My government has recordings of more than one Trump" L. Coyote Apr 2017 #38
kick for visibility triron Apr 2017 #40
Flynn did not act alone. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #43
MADDOW: Cummings: May take White House subpoenas to get Flynn docs L. Coyote Apr 2017 #47
Russians behind payments for Flynn's work for Turkey L. Coyote Apr 2017 #48
Rep. Quiqley: Public Has Right To Know How Russia Impacted 2016 Election L. Coyote Apr 2017 #49
Did it work for Nixon? Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #50
Yes it did. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #52
No. 1974: Nixon resigns in disgrace. 1976: Republicans kicked out of office. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #53
they build their own smoking guns. MFM008 Apr 2017 #51
The Interview That Could Hurt Michael Flynn L. Coyote Apr 2017 #54
Former White House Lawyer On Russia: 'This Is Treason' L. Coyote Apr 2017 #55
Sessions: 'Not Sure Anyone' Could've Caught Flynn's Foreign Payments (VIDEO) L. Coyote Apr 2017 #56
Pence KNEW Flynn was a foreign agent while attending national security briefings L. Coyote Apr 2017 #57
Trump and White House did background check of General Flynn L. Coyote Apr 2017 #58
Dworkin: Flynn paper trail will lead back to Trump & Pence L. Coyote Apr 2017 #64
VP Pence either lied or was extremely incompetent on Mike Flynn L. Coyote Apr 2017 #65
Jeff Sessions recuses himself from Flynn investigation L. Coyote May 2017 #66

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
31. Essentially, the white house is saying that if it happened before January 20, 2017
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 01:32 PM
Apr 2017

Then it's not their problem, and they don't have any information on it.

Not sure if i find that credible. They're clearly throwing Flynn up as a sacrificial lamb.

Grins

(7,217 posts)
35. Not surprising and very typical of the Reich-wing.
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 01:52 PM
Apr 2017

It is an article of faith among Reich-wing conservatives that all of history began on January 20, 2009 and ended January 20, 2017 at high noon.

(Before that it was January 20, 2001 thru January 20, 2009, after which the blamed the Obama Administration for not immediately cleaning up the disasters of George W. Bush.)

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
41. Apparently the PS got cut off.....
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 04:37 PM
Apr 2017

Buzz off....or words to that effect. 😂😂😂😂😂

I have to laugh at these buffoons to keep from crying.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
2. No surprise there
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 11:33 AM
Apr 2017

Flynn is dirty and so is Trump. Of course "the White House" (aka Donald Trump) declines to provide incriminating documents.

2naSalit

(86,612 posts)
14. *exasperated sigh*
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 12:02 PM
Apr 2017

I wish this whole shit show would just be over. I feel like I did the last time <THE LAST TIME> I ever got on a Ferris Wheel, I realized what a rickety POS the whole contraption was as I rose to the top of the wheel and suddenly wanted to get off before all passengers were aboard. That flimsy bar across my lap and slippery seats... if that thing had been a truck for me to drive, I would have handed back the keys with some choice words about how it wasn't even close to road-worthy. But I currently feel like I'm at the top of the wheel waiting for the awful ride to start.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
30. Question is does Flynn want to talk because he actually knows something extremely illegal that Trump
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 01:30 PM
Apr 2017

or someone high up in his administration has done or is he trying to protect himself by trying to trick someone into granting him immunity before seeing if what he is offering is worth granting him immunity?

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
39. He is rightly worried he is the scapegoat. He was fired to cover for VP Pence,
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 02:55 PM
Apr 2017

and he likely thinks he is going to be the fall guy even if he wasn't in on the plan. But he wasn't the only one lying about Russian contacts. Manafort is the real Russian in all this, and Manafort picked Pence (or should I say Putin picked Pence).

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
42. Donald Trumps man on the Hill is actually Pence's man
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 04:46 PM
Apr 2017
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/who-is-marc-short-trump-legislative-liaison-233710

.... Marc Short, Trump’s director of legislative affairs, has a substantial track record in Washington, having worked as a top Hill aide to Trump's more affable running mate, Mike Pence. And those who know Short — a Virginia native — say he’s got a sharp eye for strategy, eschews credit and will be effective at smoothing Trump’s rougher edges when it comes to relationships with lawmakers. Though he briefly worked for a Trump primary rival — Marco Rubio — Short maintained his ties to Pence, and they paid off when Pence joined Trump’s ticket in July.

Short’s selection to be Trump’s legislative liaison is yet another manifestation of Pence’s outsized role in managing the Trump administration’s relationship with the Hill. ....

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
44. Maybe, maybe not but regardless he should not be granted immunity until after he provides something
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 05:10 PM
Apr 2017

solid to make it worth granting it to him.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
46. To be honest I suspect that if he actually had something on Trump he would be wearing
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 12:15 AM
Apr 2017

a pair of cement lined shoes or Trump would simply make a deal with him of a pardon or a commutation like Scooter Libby was given for his silence.

Orrex

(63,211 posts)
4. Wish I could read 90% of this thread
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 11:36 AM
Apr 2017

Wish I could have identified it as a twitterstorm before clicking on it.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
8. You can catch up later. Twitter is where news breaks first.
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 11:44 AM
Apr 2017

Last edited Tue Apr 25, 2017, 01:05 PM - Edit history (1)

Or you can do your own research and looks stuff up the old-fashioned way when it is finally crawled by Google.


Orrex

(63,211 posts)
9. Or DU's twitter regurgitators could self-identify as such, as a courtesy
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 11:49 AM
Apr 2017

People have no problem tagging their posts as (nt) or (eom). When an OP is nothing other than a regurgitation of someone else's tweets, it would be a nice nod to etiquette if these posts included a subject line tag like (ltt) to let their readers know..

I know, I know. Anything that offers even the illusion of inconvenience to an OP is insupportable, but I can dream, can't I?

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
13. Or, you can do a search and find the news for yourself.
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 12:01 PM
Apr 2017

Last edited Tue Apr 25, 2017, 01:06 PM - Edit history (1)

Don't blame me if you can't see the primary news source in the world today. Fix your own problem.


Orrex

(63,211 posts)
16. Yeah, why would I blame you for posting a zero-content OP?
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 12:08 PM
Apr 2017

Twitter regurgitators seem curiously invested in their regurgitations, and woe to any who question the value of such look-at-me posts.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
17. The content is there, it is major breaking news. Why are you blind to it?
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 12:32 PM
Apr 2017

Last edited Tue Apr 25, 2017, 01:07 PM - Edit history (1)

More importantly, after reading the OP title, why can't you find out for yourself what is happening in the world in less time than it takes to post a negative comment.


Orrex

(63,211 posts)
18. I'm not blind to it.
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 12:41 PM
Apr 2017
why can't you find out for yourself what is happening in the world in less time than it takes to post a negative comment.
Because I made the foolish mistake of thinking that your post might actually contribute something, rather than simply regurgitating someone else's contribution.

As has been stated repeatedly, a large number of DUers are unable to view these link-to-tweet posts, so the posters' regurgitations are blank. I don't understand why these regurgitators can't be bothered to identify their posts as nothing but links, but maybe I'm a jerk for expecting a minimum of courtesy. Adding an "LTT" tag is not an onerous request IMO.

No shit I can hunt down the information, thanks. But your post made it seem like you were contributing something worth reading, and it would have been nice if you'd included a disclaimer to prevent that impression.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
19. Who can't see Twitter? If you can, why do you complain.
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 12:45 PM
Apr 2017

A few people at work have Twitter blocked, right, because their employer does not want them on Twitter during work. Everyone else sees it.


Orrex

(63,211 posts)
22. I can't, nor can many others who've expressed similar frustration
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 12:55 PM
Apr 2017

And I complain because twitter regurgitators lose their shit when urged to display even a minimum of courtesy.

I would be happy to avoid those threads if there were some way to identify them, but twitter regurgitators refuse to make any concession that would allow this, for some reason. If you could have been bothered to label your OP as simply a regurgitation of someone else's tweets, I wouldn't even have brought it up.


Further, the workplace policies of other DUers are none of your damn business.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
25. You are welcome to avoid this thread instead of bombing it with negative comments.
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 12:59 PM
Apr 2017

Create your own thread the way you want if you don't like breaking news as it breaks.


Orrex

(63,211 posts)
26. You could have avoided it with a simple gesture requiring minimal effort
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 01:04 PM
Apr 2017

As stated, I would be happy to avoid all twitter regurgitations on DU, if only the regurgitators were willing to demonstrate the barest courtesy.

Hell, if they'd add an LTT tag or some equivalent, I'd happily Trash that tag, and we'd never have to discuss this again.


At least one other reader clicked on your OP with the mistaken belief that it would contain something worth reading (or able to be read). Why is that so difficult for you to grasp?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
32. As you interpret it rather than as it may be collectively interpreted.
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 01:35 PM
Apr 2017

"if only the regurgitators were willing to demonstrate the barest courtesy..."

As you interpret it rather than as it may be collectively interpreted.

Dig in and repeat the same line. That helps, too.

LOL Lib

(1,462 posts)
33. I appreciate the twitter updates.
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 01:37 PM
Apr 2017

Not sure why it bothers some people and really don't care. Keep posting. Also I lol at people crying about posting etiquette. We have an orange madman in the WH and people are crying about message board etiquette? I wonder why shit puke rethuglicans think all liberals are snowflakes?

"Spoon feed me and do it nicely! If you don't I will drown you in tears or alert on you and try to silence you!" <insert face palm>

Orrex

(63,211 posts)
61. I'm not crying about anything, so let me tell you where you can file your opinion
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 12:45 PM
Apr 2017

I see that you took it upon yourself to trash your fellow DUers. I note with interest that I've had posts hidden and threads locked for doing less, but it's clear that DU loves its tweets, so you get a pass despite your direct and obvious violation of the TOS.


If someone wants to regurgitate someone else's comments while adding nothing of value, that's up to them. And if others want to praise them for it, I guess that they're welcome to set the bar as low as they want.

LOL Lib

(1,462 posts)
62. Cry harder....
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 03:12 PM
Apr 2017

You accuse me of trashing people on DU yet you are the one being nasty. Go ahead and tell me where I can file my opinion unless you are too scared.

Orrex

(63,211 posts)
63. Right. You call me a snowflake, but I'm the one who's nasty
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 03:33 PM
Apr 2017

I look forward to many more months of positive contributions from you here at DU.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
10. dKos: BREAKING: White House Denies House Oversight Committee's Request
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 11:51 AM
Apr 2017
BREAKING: White House Denies House Oversight Committee's Request For Flynn Documents
By TrumpResistance

Breaking on Twitter just now-— the White House is trying to hide its documents on Flynn from the House Oversight Committee:





Gothmog

(145,231 posts)
60. Again, Elijah Cummings is an amazing attorney and I love watching him set up people
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 12:17 AM
Apr 2017

I have a great deal of respect for Congressman Cummings

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
29. Congressional oversight?
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 01:25 PM
Apr 2017

I think at this case it is becoming evident that on many things
the White House is going to flout or ignore laws. It's like thumbing
their nose at Congress and saying "Yeah? What are you going to do
about it?"

ffr

(22,670 posts)
37. Cover up. Plain and simple. Only those with something to hide do not cooperate.
Tue Apr 25, 2017, 02:14 PM
Apr 2017

Crooks and liars in the GOP and WH.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
52. Yes it did.
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 02:54 PM
Apr 2017

June 17, 1972: The plumbers are arrested at 2:30 a.m. in the process of burglarizing and planting surveillance bugs in the Democratic National Committee offices at the Watergate Building Complex.

November 7, 1972: Nixon re-elected, defeating George McGovern with the largest plurality of votes in American history.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
53. No. 1974: Nixon resigns in disgrace. 1976: Republicans kicked out of office.
Wed Apr 26, 2017, 02:59 PM
Apr 2017

Further, your line does not apply to the analogy you are trying to create.

Nixon's stonewalling, like tRump's, came after the election.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
56. Sessions: 'Not Sure Anyone' Could've Caught Flynn's Foreign Payments (VIDEO)
Fri Apr 28, 2017, 11:26 AM
Apr 2017



.... That’s a departure from White House press secretary Sean Spicer, who noted Thursday that Flynn’s security clearance was last issued during the Obama administration.

“We need to do a good job of vetting that, but that’s a complex issue, and I’m not sure anyone could be expected to find that,” Sessions told “Good Morning America.”

He told “Today” the same on Friday: “They do the best they can,” referring to the Trump transition team who vetted Flynn. “It’s impossible to know everything. I don’t know what they did in that case.”

Sessions noted to both programs that he didn’t expect to be involved in any potential investigation of Flynn, and he would not confirm that one existed. ..............



L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
64. Dworkin: Flynn paper trail will lead back to Trump & Pence
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 05:35 PM
Apr 2017


Apr 30, 2017

DCAT’s Scott Dworkin was blunt today on AM Joy: “Michael Flynn should be in jail - and a paper trail will lead back to Pence and Trump.” Tell Congress here [http://bit.ly/2mpmgDT] to demand a full, independent #TrumpRussia investigation with a special prosecutor and an independent non-partisan 9/11-style commission.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
66. Jeff Sessions recuses himself from Flynn investigation
Mon May 1, 2017, 11:04 AM
May 2017
Sessions is guilty of the same thing Flynn is guilty of, he's a co-conspirator.




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