Let me get this straight: Trump admin-which trusted Obama on NOTHING-went w/Flynn's Obama Clearance?

[kpete]

Obama firing Flynn is why Trump took him up and even if it was the Russian players that made the match, it is Obama's fault, right?

Link to tweet

"My only point is when Gen. Flynn came into the White House, he had an active security clearance that was issued during the Obama administration with all the information that’s being discussed that occurred in 2015," Spicer told reporters.

The spokesman brushed aside the notion that President Trump has regrets over hiring Flynn.

"The president made the right decision at the right time," Spicer said of Trump's decision to dismiss Flynn in February. "He made the right decision and we've looked forward."

He said Trump’s transition team and White House staff trusted the work of the previous administration.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/330925-spicer-blames-obama-for-flynns-security-clearance

Michael Flynn, fired once by Obama, now resigns to Trump

His military career ended when Obama dismissed him as defense intelligence chief. Flynn claimed he was pushed out for holding tougher views than the Obama administration about Islamic extremism. But a former senior U.S. official who worked with Flynn said the firing was for insubordination, after the Army lieutenant general failed to follow guidance from superiors.

http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/2017/02/michael_flynn_fired_once_by_a.html

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[greymattermom]

1. They probably didn't vet anyone

because they have no staff and no institutional memory of what procedures are required.

[L. Coyote]

17. And after firing him for felony trump defends him as wonderful man wronged by illegal leakers

You see the "fake news" about the real leak of true information is the actual problem in trump's alt universe,
and there would be no problem if people would just quit releasing the evidence about #TrumpRussia crimes.

[herding cats]

2. This is total BS. Flynn had been out of access since 2014 - he'd need to be re-investigated.

Link to tweet

Susan Hennessey? @Susan_Hennessey
This is affirmatively false. Everyone has 5 year periodic re-investigation and there is *always* re-investigation after being out of access.

[asiliveandbreathe]

5. Flynn LIED on Sec Clearance app...open mouth insert foot spicey...

This is not going away..just like when the POS in the WH said President Obama wire tapped him...

just my only point spicey....

now give the Inv. committee the sec clearance app requested by 4/3/2017..that the WH refused...

[herding cats]

9. Yep, this is all deflection.

They're in a bit of a panic and tossing crap at the wall t see what might stick.

[Lee-Lee]

10. She is incorrect- a clearance can be reinstated for 24 months

When you have a current background investigation but leave a position requiring a clearance your cleanrace moves to a current/inactive status and can be reinstated if you go into a position requiring it for up to 24 months.

After 24 months it is lapsed and you start over.

I see his retirement listed at August 204 but am not clear if that is when he left his last job or his actual last date of active service. If it is when he left the job it could have taken several more months for gen retirement process and using up all his terminal leave it could have extended to November or December.

[kcr]

15. Even if you're fired? He didn't just leave. n/t

[Lee-Lee]

16. Yes. Unless your fired for misconduct that would change eligibility

Just being fired doesn't change it. I manage this kind of stuff now for civilian workers and a person who gets fired or loses a job is just moved inactive.

Now if you were fired for mismanagement of classified information or a criminal act than the security manager for your agency or company would have to report that, and the decision to revoke the clearance would rest with OPM or whomever issued it.

[brush]

13. Especially after being fired. The repugs "forget" to mention that O fired Flynn.

[Maeve]

3. Wait a minute...Flynn was fired in 2014

Didn't he lose his clearance at that point? If not, why the hell not?

[asiliveandbreathe]

7. My point is then, what Sec. Clearance appl. did he lie on? eom

[Lee-Lee]

11. No

A cleanrce is current but inactive for 24 months after you leave a position requiring one.

[Thinkingabout]

4. Of course it is Obama's fault. Flynn working with the Trump campaign must have been Obama's fault

also. Trump knew Flynn was working with Russian, there was lots of working with the Russians.

[unblock]

6. guess they figured "if obama fired him, he must be a great republican!"

if obama had kept him on, donnie would have fired him along with all the other "obama holdovers".

so i guess it is obama's fault after all....

[sharp_stick]

8. And that was after Flynn

was pretty much fired with cause in 2014. This is some major flailing around, flinging shit at the wall and praying something sticks before Flynn starts to sing.

[Lee-Lee]

12. It's not like an administration has any real influence on the process

The OPM does the investigations and they are handled by very competent career civilian employees.

The same people are doing it now that we're doing it a year ago.

Most of the transition team and people who put into positions by Trump prior to the inauguration would have been investigated by the OPM under the Obama admin but that has zero bearing on the quality of the work and has no reflection on them.

[duncang]

14. IIRC

Flynn failed the requirement to get prior or during the time permission from the dia to accept monies from a foreign government. This is in the emoluments clause. That is just part of what is happening to flynn.


The security clearance was solely on dipshit donnie's WH. He left in the spring of 2014. He would have needed to update including all of any new relevant information to get it approved. That would include stuff like payments, people he did business with, family members, and contacts with foreign governments. So that could be another crime. As to try blaming on Obama. He was a private citizen until dipshit donnie made him NSC advisor. It wasn't Obama's responsibility to give him a security clearance.