Can their assets be seized under 'Trading with the Enemy'?

[LaydeeBug]

I am just asking for a friend...

[NobodyHere]

1. That's kind of a vague question

But if you're talking about Russia then no, as they are not a recognized enemy by the law.

[LaydeeBug]

2. Which nations does the law define as 'enemy'?

[NobodyHere]

4. I should refine my statement

But unless they violated US sanctions or traded with a recognized terrorist organization then no, there's no chance of assets getting seized.

[LaydeeBug]

5. And what part of the law allows for that? Cyber war is still an act of war. nt

[NobodyHere]

7. Then we're probably at war with everyone

[LaydeeBug]

9. So it *is* 'Trading with the Enemy' after all. nt

[NobodyHere]

10. Per wikipedia

The only countries that fall under 'Trading with the Enemy' is Cuba and North Korea

[LaydeeBug]

11. Per the Constitution...

Cyber war is an Act of War. WE don't have to be the one to declare it.

[NobodyHere]

12. I don't think the word 'Cyber' appears in the constitution

[LaydeeBug]

13. Oh, sorry...not only us, but Nato too...

http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/48484/cyber-warfare-2/nato-cyberspace-warfare-domain.html

[NobodyHere]

14. Which hasn't been invoked

[LaydeeBug]

15. How does one invoke a cyber warfare attack from another country?

[csziggy]

3. Let's just freeze their assets until we figure it out!

[LaydeeBug]

6. lol.

[riverwalker]

8. Wonder if we can seize the assets

For fines and penalties, seems a zillion different violations already.

[onenote]

16. No. Not even close

Under the Act, an enemy is a country (or citizens or allies of a country) with which the US is at war under a formal declaration of war adopted by Congress. (It seems quaint now, but that's the way things used to be done). It also can apply in certain circumstances where the President declares it applies.

So there is no way that the Trading of the Enemies Act, which is essentially a delegation of authority to the President, can be invoked against Russia at this point. Keep in mind that Russia was never formally declared an enemy under the TWEA at any point in the Cold War.

[Mr. Ected]

17. Which lays to rest any notion of a charge of treason as well

Trumpco's downfall will be pursuant to racketeering charges, not treason.