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applegrove

(118,501 posts)
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 10:15 PM Apr 2017

Retired CIA expert: US far-right is getting duped by Russia and its part of something bigger

by David Fergson at Raw Story

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/retired-cia-expert-us-far-right-is-getting-duped-by-russia-and-its-part-of-something-bigger/

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In recent years, finding themselves increasingly ideologically alienated in the U.S., certain members of the far right have found sympathetic “kindred spirits” among Russia’s well-connected elite.

According to a bombshell report published Sunday night by the Washington Post, some current and former members of the U.S. intelligence community believe that forces within the Russian government are actively cultivating these relationships with disaffected members of the conservative fringe, although it’s unclear why.

The Post report begins with Brian Brown, president of anti-LGBTQ hate group the National Organization for Marriage (NOM). Brown grew up thinking that Russians were the enemy, but now that his own country has largely embraced the sanctity of same-sex marriages, Brown feels more at home among his anti-LGBTQ Russian counterparts.

“What I realized was that there was a great change happening in the former Soviet Union,” Brown said of a 2013 visit to Russia, where gay men and lesbians are routinely attacked in the street, beaten, raped and — in the Republic of Chechnya — rounded up into internment camps, tortured and executed. “There was a real push to re-instill Christian values in the public square.”

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Retired CIA expert: US far-right is getting duped by Russia and its part of something bigger (Original Post) applegrove Apr 2017 OP
and on to fascism, elleng Apr 2017 #1
Someone should tell that punk Glen Greenwald Chevy Apr 2017 #2
Exactly. SHRED Apr 2017 #8
+1 dalton99a May 2017 #17
Yeah, those are some Christian values, all right. dchill Apr 2017 #3
Yep; violence, oppression and closed minds! JNelson6563 Apr 2017 #4
Kicking. dchill Apr 2017 #5
K&R denbot Apr 2017 #6
Duped? SHRED Apr 2017 #7
WP worded it much different Chevy Apr 2017 #9
If this guy was seated across from Jesus, . . . PdxSean Apr 2017 #10
Always an out in the media for republicans. gtar100 May 2017 #11
My guess is that it's b/c they know they're the most likely to lead the U.S. to disaster tenorly May 2017 #12
I get a kick out of the notion that it's "all part of something bigger" Bucky May 2017 #13
Well kcr May 2017 #15
K&R HAB911 May 2017 #14
republicans FAILING to defend America or our allies Achilleaze May 2017 #16
 

Chevy

(1,063 posts)
2. Someone should tell that punk Glen Greenwald
Sun Apr 30, 2017, 10:23 PM
Apr 2017

that he wouldn't last a second on the streets of his beloved Moscow because who he is

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
11. Always an out in the media for republicans.
Mon May 1, 2017, 12:03 AM
May 2017

It's not just the "far right" as he says but republicans in general who are being duped by Putin. They just refuse to own up to anything they fuck up, which, politically speaking, is just about everything these days.

I'm sure they would be happy to be able to persecute men and women here for being gay, lesbian or transgender. In their lust for blood they apparently don't want to see just how badly they are being manipulated.

Sadly, most of these people will wake up tomorrow and continue being the same assholes just as they were today. These fellow Americans... these repug types... love America... other than its people and its diversity of culture. But by God they love America!

The absurdity of the republican mindset grows ever more ridiculous with each passing day and I suspect we are going to be shown just how low they are willing to go. I think, however, that every time one of us tells them to fuck off when they spout their conservative bullshit it throws them off guard. Let's keep it up and this last ditch effort to install the fascists will fail miserably because we are laughing at them and spitting on their ideology whenever they try to legitimize their version of idiocracy. Don't let them get a toe hold anywhere.

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
12. My guess is that it's b/c they know they're the most likely to lead the U.S. to disaster
Mon May 1, 2017, 12:18 AM
May 2017

Many Russians still blame the U.S. for their collapse 25 years ago - not the Soviet collapse as much as the economic collapse that accompanied it.

Promoting the very people who are most likely bring about such a crisis in the U.S. - the John Birch types - would, for many of them, be payback.

Bucky

(53,947 posts)
13. I get a kick out of the notion that it's "all part of something bigger"
Mon May 1, 2017, 12:29 AM
May 2017

Like they jackhammered our democracy, installed an idiot president, and subverted trust in the Fourth Estate, but it's just all a distraction so that no one will notice when the Ruskies knock over ever major casino in Vegas in one night.

There's no "secret scheme"--Putin's agenda is obvious: keep the West fractious so he can reassert Russian influence over Eastern Europe.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
15. Well
Mon May 1, 2017, 08:07 AM
May 2017

"There's no "secret scheme"--Putin's agenda is obvious: keep the West fractious so he can reassert Russian influence over Eastern Europe."

Maybe I'm missing some other point, but I wouldn't call that a small thing.

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