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That's fabulous melman May 2017 #1
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ooh yeah, that's the ticket Skittles May 2017 #6
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LOLOL Skittles May 2017 #10
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Its been going on too long, so you decide to add to it and make it go on longer... LostOne4Ever May 2017 #28
I would like to suggest in a humble way, you just might be 7wo7rees May 2017 #15
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Yes, really Kaye. nt 7wo7rees May 2017 #17
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"I'm unwilling to accept or adapt",. There is a start. K? 7wo7rees May 2017 #19
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I'm done. Argue with someone else. 7wo7rees May 2017 #23
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Kaye sounds like a typical Democrat to me. n/t pnwmom May 2017 #25
Thank you for sharing. QC May 2017 #3
We're happy for you, Kaye. SMC22307 May 2017 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author k8conant May 2017 #7
okay dweller May 2017 #8
President and Mrs. Obama to unveil 3D model of presidential center on Wednesday in Chicago. Cha May 2017 #12
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This should be interesting.. Cha May 2017 #20
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Really rich and very impressive. 7wo7rees May 2017 #13
FWIW... Obama is a private citizen, as I suppose you are... MedusaX May 2017 #24
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It's not about OBEYING Bernie or treating his words like a mantra Ken Burch May 2017 #29
Well said. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2017 #30
I'm a Murphy person JustAnotherGen May 2017 #31
A mantra is just a repetition of a sound, and Bernie isn't doing much more than that. Ninsianna May 2017 #33
Waters is the best of the best JustAnotherGen May 2017 #32
Yes! AL FRANKEN totally ROCKS!! He's a TRUE DEMOCRAT who speaks for me!! Even though... NurseJackie May 2017 #34
Ok, but he speaks for Democrats like me. aikoaiko May 2017 #35
Your concern is noted, again. n/t ms liberty May 2017 #36
That top drawer must be getting pretty empty. KTM May 2017 #37
I do not want the Democratic Party to be remade into the image of Sanders Gothmog May 2017 #38
... demmiblue May 2017 #39
 

melman

(7,681 posts)
1. That's fabulous
Tue May 2, 2017, 12:53 AM
May 2017

Good for you.

Of course nobody said you should, and there isn't really any 'mantra', but still...good for you.

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Skittles

(153,160 posts)
6. ooh yeah, that's the ticket
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:09 AM
May 2017

GIVE US ALL FUCKING BREAK ALREADY

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Skittles

(153,160 posts)
10. LOLOL
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:14 AM
May 2017

ALRIGHTY THEN

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LostOne4Ever

(9,288 posts)
28. Its been going on too long, so you decide to add to it and make it go on longer...
Tue May 2, 2017, 02:31 AM
May 2017

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
15. I would like to suggest in a humble way, you just might be
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:31 AM
May 2017

stoking division. Again, IMHO.

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7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
17. Yes, really Kaye. nt
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:36 AM
May 2017

You left out quite a few in your list.
I'll start with Warren... Waters... Conyers....

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7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
19. "I'm unwilling to accept or adapt",. There is a start. K?
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:42 AM
May 2017

Need more? Brand new poster issuing ultimatum about what you believe and in process leave out a number of voices. Right.

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7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
23. I'm done. Argue with someone else.
Tue May 2, 2017, 02:04 AM
May 2017

You are brand new and step in to say "unwilling to accept or adapt", and leave out of your list a number of voices to be respected and heard.

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pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
25. Kaye sounds like a typical Democrat to me. n/t
Tue May 2, 2017, 02:20 AM
May 2017

QC

(26,371 posts)
3. Thank you for sharing.
Tue May 2, 2017, 12:57 AM
May 2017

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
4. We're happy for you, Kaye.
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:08 AM
May 2017

Truly.

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dweller

(23,632 posts)
8. okay
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:12 AM
May 2017

now

Cha

(297,200 posts)
12. President and Mrs. Obama to unveil 3D model of presidential center on Wednesday in Chicago.
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:21 AM
May 2017



Like me you'll be interested in this, Kaye..

snip//

Husband-and-wife architects Tod Williams and Billie Tsien of New York will also attend Wednesday's event. The future Presidential Center is expected to open in Jackson Park in 2021 at a cost of at least $500 million.

"More than a building or a museum, the Obama Presidential Center will be a working center for civic engagement and a place to inspire people and communities to create change," the foundation said in Monday's announcement.

More.. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/

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Cha

(297,200 posts)
20. This should be interesting..
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:52 AM
May 2017

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7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
13. Really rich and very impressive.
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:29 AM
May 2017

Welcome to DU.

MedusaX

(1,129 posts)
24. FWIW... Obama is a private citizen, as I suppose you are...
Tue May 2, 2017, 02:16 AM
May 2017

As such, you have as much power as he does when it comes to regaining house & senate seats in 2018
Or ensuring that the KGOP, at the very least, does not gain any ground at the state level..
..and ideally loses as much ground as possible.

Now that you have introduced yourself &
identified your favorite politicians,
perhaps you would also like to share
any ideas you may have regarding
strategy or available opportunities to
actively contribute to the successful achievement of the common goal .....
(Which is to regain as many federal and state seats as possible in the 2018 election)
Beyond simply Waiting to hear from Obama or some other public figure.

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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
29. It's not about OBEYING Bernie or treating his words like a mantra
Tue May 2, 2017, 03:01 AM
May 2017

It is no less legitimate for Senator Sanders and his supporters to try and influence the direction of this party than it was for the Clintons and the DLC to work to influence this party to move massively(and unnecessarily)to the right in the 1980s and early 1990s.

And the Sanders movement is simply a group of people of good will trying to work for their ideas, the vast majority of which are quite popular.

We can't gain ground if we don't change at all from where we were in 2016. And there's no reason we can't embrace the Sanders economic message(a message which is to the good of all)while retaining our social justice message(and expanding it beyond the conservative definition of social justice we've settled for at the moment to a full social justice message that includes a revival of the war against poverty).

Let's move to dialog and unity. We aren't Clinton people, we aren't Sanders people, we are just people...and we are ALL needed.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
30. Well said.
Tue May 2, 2017, 04:32 AM
May 2017

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
31. I'm a Murphy person
Tue May 2, 2017, 04:53 AM
May 2017

Sanders son was at a campaign event with him Sunday. Time to win the Governor's mansion!

Ninsianna

(1,349 posts)
33. A mantra is just a repetition of a sound, and Bernie isn't doing much more than that.
Tue May 2, 2017, 05:39 AM
May 2017

Senator Sanders keeps going out of his way to insist that he's not a member of this party, thus it's a lot less legitimate than the Democrats you refer to, in your unfair categorization. They committed to the party and did what was deemed best at the time.

Sanders has chosen not to be part of the party, despite saying that of course he would be a Democrat, no one has a problem if he and his followers wish to work for their ideas, they're quite welcome to join us in the party or to work with us, but they won't accomplish anything if they're busy attacking us. His ideas are not unique and they were quite popular before him and in spite of him.

We did pretty well in 2016, despite the numerous attacks, the disinformation and the lies told to people about what the party actually is and its history. We don't need to embrace Bernie's version of the economic message, it's been our own for quite sometime, just because it doesn't use his slogans, it doesn't mean that's something different.

Our problems with Bernie is that his slogans aren't new, his ideas not unique but he insists that we sacrifice our social justice principles, our civil and human rights principles as he did when he attacked Ossoff and embraced that right wing extremist. Our war on poverty is ongoing, it's not something Bernie created, and we won't do a darn thing to advance it if we keep insisting that race and gender issues are somehow not an integral part of it.

I'm all willing to move to unity, but Bernie and his people seem to be aggressively choosing to make that difficult. To the point that he's handing ammunition to the Republicans to use against us and creating a narrative of division that simply isn't true. We certainly are ALL needed, even those of us that Bernie and his supporters keep telling to sit down, shut up and move to the back of the line.

We are people, even the women and the POC and the immigrants that Bernie and his peeps get all confused, and if unity is the goal and Bernie and his people wish to unite and help us achieve the goals of our party, and not get all bogged down in taking credit and bullying everyone, then he and his followers are welcome.

We will not gain any ground if we allow this divisiveness to continue, Democratic ideals and the Democratic party doesn't need to be remade in anyone's image, and it's not exactly unifying to keep demanding this of us.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
32. Waters is the best of the best
Tue May 2, 2017, 04:59 AM
May 2017

Right now.

It does not get better than someone who has no desire to run for President in a safe district throwing elbows at Trump every chance she gets.

Schiff is another one.

The two of them just keep piling on that ignorant little fucker in the White House. They can't stop!


Pssst - watch NJ. We are going to flip the bird to every single person that voted for Trump this November. We are just trying to teach them a lesson is all.

And when we do . . .we will have no social services "refugees" from Red States aka Trump states coming in here and stealing from hard working New Jerseyans.

This is war.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
34. Yes! AL FRANKEN totally ROCKS!! He's a TRUE DEMOCRAT who speaks for me!! Even though...
Tue May 2, 2017, 06:11 AM
May 2017

... I'm not one of his constituents, Al Franken's POSITIVE message and OPTIMISTIC outlook resonates with me.

He's got a HOMESPUN CHARM about him that truly exudes and represents DEMOCRATIC values. His DEMEANOR is calm and focused, he's always POLITE and PROFESSIONAL. He shows RESTRAINT and RESPECT... even when dealing with political opponents or adversaries.

I tell ya, there are several US Senators who'd be wise to take a lesson from Al Franken and change their behavior and attitude to be more like his.


aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
35. Ok, but he speaks for Democrats like me.
Tue May 2, 2017, 06:15 AM
May 2017

I appreciate his point of view, honesty, and integrity. Not that he is perfect, but he is reliable.

ms liberty

(8,574 posts)
36. Your concern is noted, again. n/t
Tue May 2, 2017, 06:33 AM
May 2017
 

KTM

(1,823 posts)
37. That top drawer must be getting pretty empty.
Tue May 2, 2017, 09:12 AM
May 2017

Gothmog

(145,213 posts)
38. I do not want the Democratic Party to be remade into the image of Sanders
Tue May 2, 2017, 09:51 AM
May 2017

I am not happy with the attempts being made to remake the Democratic Party into the image of Sanders. I will oppose these attempts

demmiblue

(36,850 posts)
39. ...
Tue May 2, 2017, 09:54 AM
May 2017
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