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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:19 PM May 2017

Oh. My. Fucking. God: DAG's letter about Comey's firing

http://www.businessinsider.com/why-was-james-comey-fired-trump-2017-5

In a memo to Sessions, Rosenstein laid out the reasoning for firing Comey.

Rosenstein said that over the past year, "the FBI's reputation and credibility have suffered substantial damage" that has "affected the entire Department of Justice."

"I cannot defend the Director's handling of the conclusion of the investigation of Secretary Clinton's emails, and I do not understand his refusal to accept the nearly universal judgment that he was mistaken," Rosenstein said. "Almost everyone agrees that the Director made serious mistakes; it is one of the few issues that unites people of diverse perspectives."

He pointed to Comey's July announcement of the FBI's view that "no charges are appropriate" in the Justice Department's investigation into then-presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server while she served as secretary of state.



Holy shit. Buckle up, people. This is not even slightly OK.
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Oh. My. Fucking. God: DAG's letter about Comey's firing (Original Post) Recursion May 2017 OP
So they dont like Comey, allegedly, because he did NOT indict Hillary or was unfair to her? Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #1
A decision in search of a rationale (Gloria Borger CNN) BumRushDaShow May 2017 #4
Those idiots were tasked with inventing this rational for sacking comey. The_Casual_Observer May 2017 #2
Help me, are they saying he had to be fired because he was unfair to Hillary or Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #3
yep. possibly the most cynical move I have seen Abu Pepe May 2017 #5
See post #4. BumRushDaShow May 2017 #6
Which implies the new FBI director will ARREST Hillary. Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #8
They can't "arrest" anyone. BumRushDaShow May 2017 #11
Yeah, obviously I mean indict and arrest using the Justice Dept. Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #12
It is something strategists need to keep in mind BumRushDaShow May 2017 #15
Country explodes if they do anything to her. It would then be a real actual coup Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #17
They could try to drag this out by appointing a (weak) Special Prosecuter BumRushDaShow May 2017 #19
I think their base wants Hillary in jail and they feel they can survive their treason Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #20
That's not going to happen any time soon. BumRushDaShow May 2017 #21
I say they appoint new FBI in days and he , would never be she, announces Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #22
They have to find someone who can pass a security clearance BumRushDaShow May 2017 #24
Cant the deputy AG do something now? Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #25
They really don't have enough evidence to really do it BumRushDaShow May 2017 #26
It's obvious they could make up their minds about what to use, so they sort of threw it all in there The_Casual_Observer May 2017 #7
They might think arresting Hillary is a way to misdirect attention. Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #9
It's possible. It's possible he is trying to make good on the "lock her up" The_Casual_Observer May 2017 #13
I can see them thinking this is the way to get their base to defend the treason. Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #16
It's so twisted that it rings true. It certainly looks that way from reading it. The_Casual_Observer May 2017 #18
Keep in mind the DAG is the only one who can appoint a special prosecutor OliverQ May 2017 #10
Unless we take the House back and start some impeachment hearings. nt BumRushDaShow May 2017 #14
This country won't survive 2 more years at this rate. OliverQ May 2017 #30
The mid-term elections would be next year. nt BumRushDaShow May 2017 #31
If it was the director's handling of the Clinton emails... anglesphere May 2017 #23
"Almost everyone agrees".... Did Trump write this foolishness?? KeepItReal May 2017 #27
Some people might say MontanaMama May 2017 #29
Is there anybody left at DOJ MontanaMama May 2017 #28
I truly hope leaks to turn into a flood ... enough of this shit! Greywing May 2017 #33
Putin's behind this crap. Distract by attacking HRC again is what he advised the orange idiot . BSdetect May 2017 #32

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
1. So they dont like Comey, allegedly, because he did NOT indict Hillary or was unfair to her?
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:20 PM
May 2017

Does this mean they are going to arrest Hillary?

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
4. A decision in search of a rationale (Gloria Borger CNN)
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:23 PM
May 2017

Using this as an excuse.

IMHO, I think it was because he didn't indict her (and because his underlings are getting close in his case).

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
3. Help me, are they saying he had to be fired because he was unfair to Hillary or
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:22 PM
May 2017

because comey should have arrested her?

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
11. They can't "arrest" anyone.
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:28 PM
May 2017

What they could do is start up a grand jury to try to get an indictment - all to distract from the Russian stuff.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
12. Yeah, obviously I mean indict and arrest using the Justice Dept.
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:29 PM
May 2017

I was angry and doing short hand. But you are right.

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
15. It is something strategists need to keep in mind
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:31 PM
May 2017

with an administration that is out of control and slowly getting drunk with power (bolstered by the GOP cowards in Congress).

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
17. Country explodes if they do anything to her. It would then be a real actual coup
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:32 PM
May 2017

I for one say no, cant allow that.

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
19. They could try to drag this out by appointing a (weak) Special Prosecuter
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:35 PM
May 2017

and spending the rest of the year looking like they are "investigating" to calm things a bit.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
20. I think their base wants Hillary in jail and they feel they can survive their treason
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:37 PM
May 2017

by giving them that.

What it will obviously do is start some sort of civil unrest that will end life as we know it.

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
21. That's not going to happen any time soon.
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:40 PM
May 2017

But they are navigating uncharted waters (from their perspectives) and they are going to have lawyer up with REAL lawyers... not the old "trusted" business buddies from the past.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
22. I say they appoint new FBI in days and he , would never be she, announces
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:41 PM
May 2017

grand jury on Clinton.

then I think the country explodes.

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
24. They have to find someone who can pass a security clearance
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:44 PM
May 2017

Then whoever they pick will have to go through a confirmation hearing. It's going to be a process.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
25. Cant the deputy AG do something now?
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:46 PM
May 2017

How does it work, they form a grand jury then indict if they say so?

Is that the ONLY way to arrest her for emails?



(of course she did nothing wrong, I am just curious what they are allowed to do)

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
26. They really don't have enough evidence to really do it
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:51 PM
May 2017

and if they try to manufacture something, they will be destroyed in court. They have to rely on career staff to put it together.

I know you are going hyperbolic within this thread but as much as they would want to do what you are suggesting, it's not going to happen instantly.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
7. It's obvious they could make up their minds about what to use, so they sort of threw it all in there
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:26 PM
May 2017

it makes no logical sense.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
9. They might think arresting Hillary is a way to misdirect attention.
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:27 PM
May 2017

If they do that, I suspect the country explodes.

That would be OK with them if they survive, they dont care, at all, about any of us.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
13. It's possible. It's possible he is trying to make good on the "lock her up"
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:29 PM
May 2017

stuff. It would be totally bizarre, but anything is possible.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
10. Keep in mind the DAG is the only one who can appoint a special prosecutor
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:28 PM
May 2017

It's obvious Trump and Republicans are going to get away with treason.

anglesphere

(63 posts)
23. If it was the director's handling of the Clinton emails...
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:44 PM
May 2017

...why fire him now?

Oh, that's right, because your administration is in deep doo doo.

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
27. "Almost everyone agrees".... Did Trump write this foolishness??
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:52 PM
May 2017

Learned people don't talk like that in formal documentation.

MontanaMama

(23,313 posts)
29. Some people might say
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:56 PM
May 2017

that you are exactly right! I'm thinking dump didn't go to a school of any kind. My 6th grader thinks and speaks circles around him.

MontanaMama

(23,313 posts)
28. Is there anybody left at DOJ
Tue May 9, 2017, 07:54 PM
May 2017

to go after Dump now?? You just know that somebody inside the FBI or DOJ has the goods on Dump and company....will someone leak the evidence and drop the dime on him - and soon??? This is a nightmare.

Greywing

(1,124 posts)
33. I truly hope leaks to turn into a flood ... enough of this shit!
Tue May 9, 2017, 08:26 PM
May 2017

There have to be some patriots left who do not want to see the US fall.

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
32. Putin's behind this crap. Distract by attacking HRC again is what he advised the orange idiot .
Tue May 9, 2017, 08:21 PM
May 2017

Arrest drumph now.

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