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Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
Wed May 17, 2017, 02:03 PM May 2017

Sanders misses another financial reporting deadline- May 15th- 20 day Extension to June 4th

Last edited Thu May 18, 2017, 09:07 AM - Edit history (1)

What the heck? Many posts below deleted after yesterday?


WASHINGTON — U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., missed the May 15 deadline to submit documents detailing his finances during 2016, ... Meanwhile, Vermont’s other senator, Democrat Patrick Leahy, filed his report on time.

All U.S. senators are required to file annual reports with the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Ethics, detailing their assets, liabilities and investments, as well as gifts and travel provided by private entities.

Sanders was granted a 20-day extension, and his disclosure is now due June 4. According to Senate rules, extensions may be granted for up to 90 days.

Once filed, the 2016 report will shade in some of Sanders’ financial details during an exceptionally busy year for the senator, who ran an upstart bid for president before writing a best-selling book reflecting on the campaign.

vtdigger.org/2017/05/16/sanders-misses-another-financial-reporting-deadline/

edit: This is new news. Filings were due this week on Monday. Article is from Yesterday. Vermont newspaper.
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Sanders misses another financial reporting deadline- May 15th- 20 day Extension to June 4th (Original Post) Madam45for2923 May 2017 OP
So he didn't really miss it Volstagg May 2017 #1
Title of News link. Plus I added the extension info to the OP Madam45for2923 May 2017 #2
I get it's the title. Volstagg May 2017 #61
The deadline was May 15, he didn't file on May 15. Instead he filed for an extension. George II May 2017 #14
So he didn't miss the deadline. Volstagg May 2017 #59
May 15 has come and gone and he didn't file. George II May 2017 #60
..because he got an extension..... WoonTars May 2017 #64
Nothing. George II May 2017 #71
Read beyond the headline. Jakes Progress May 2017 #94
Is There A There There Me. May 2017 #3
From the article it sounds he's done this before in other years. Madam45for2923 May 2017 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2017 #81
I guess it's too much to ask for Transparancy Cha May 2017 #96
I hate these games. bettyellen May 2017 #5
who cares? nt geek tragedy May 2017 #6
Many people care. George II May 2017 #15
The lack of transparency continues to bother me. bettyellen May 2017 #16
not ideal, but he's not the enemy nt geek tragedy May 2017 #21
He's not been a great ally. I find the waters too muddied already and the bettyellen May 2017 #33
He's always accusing the Democratic Party Cha May 2017 #85
Message deleted by DU the Administrators JTFrog May 2017 #66
Between the passive aggressive swipes at so many Dems and the propensity bettyellen May 2017 #68
Message deleted by DU the Administrators R B Garr May 2017 #72
Yeah this is about current events- we need to realize the RW is saving their attacks on him- bettyellen May 2017 #73
There's not a problem unless he misses the last extension deadline Bradical79 May 2017 #80
He did. Jakes Progress May 2017 #95
If he wants to "remake" the Democratic Party in Cha May 2017 #86
I do uponit7771 May 2017 #26
I care. nt jrthin May 2017 #82
Bernie cared, Jakes Progress May 2017 #92
O NOES! demmiblue May 2017 #7
He's been busy and got an extension. The primaries are over, please stop fighting them. PatsFan87 May 2017 #8
From article same has happened in other years: 2012, 2014, 2015 Madam45for2923 May 2017 #10
Requesting a filing extension isn't a crime. As long as he gets it in within the extension, PatsFan87 May 2017 #11
This has nothing to do with the primaries and no one has mentioned it. George II May 2017 #17
It really is though. I haven't seen any anti-Hillary threads in a while even though the narrative PatsFan87 May 2017 #25
no its not uponit7771 May 2017 #27
It is. PatsFan87 May 2017 #28
nope ... bout consistency and trust uponit7771 May 2017 #30
Funny how consistency and trust are suddenly major issues now. PatsFan87 May 2017 #32
Post removed Post removed May 2017 #37
Damn he's doing pretty amazing for himself for someone PatsFan87 May 2017 #44
"himself" .... he had help from Russia and Comey uponit7771 May 2017 #45
His favorability numbers were high before Wikileaks. Anything else you've got on him? PatsFan87 May 2017 #52
Poster was talking about TRUMP!! TRUMP OK! TRUMP w the low intellect Madam45for2923 May 2017 #62
This discussion is about the requirement for 100 Senators to file.... George II May 2017 #41
And he got an extension which is perfectly legal. Once you have an actual story PatsFan87 May 2017 #47
It isn't an "actual story"? Is it fiction? George II May 2017 #54
Fiction? No. Something to be up in arms over? No. PatsFan87 May 2017 #55
Alas, the primaries will never be over for some people. QC May 2017 #87
Alas, Jakes Progress May 2017 #93
Message deleted by DU the Administrators R B Garr May 2017 #9
We haven't seen his tax returns, either. murielm99 May 2017 #12
This is current news, not about the primary. -Thanks! That's why I edited. Madam45for2923 May 2017 #13
Is there is reason why you want to look at Sanders tax returns? Trial_By_Fire May 2017 #18
Taxes give a lot of info and they are traditionally meant for transparency. Madam45for2923 May 2017 #19
Is there a law that says he has to? Are you saing all members of Congress should show their returns? Trial_By_Fire May 2017 #34
There are quite a few reasons. murielm99 May 2017 #20
Message deleted by DU the Administrators Trial_By_Fire May 2017 #35
I want to see who owns Olde Town Media Gothmog May 2017 #23
Message deleted by DU the Administrators Trial_By_Fire May 2017 #36
I will research and get back to you! LOL! Madam45for2923 May 2017 #39
Is it a Fox News thing? Trial_By_Fire May 2017 #40
NOPE! Fox News has no idea or never mentioned. Madam45for2923 May 2017 #42
Message deleted by DU the Administrators Trial_By_Fire May 2017 #43
HUH? Russia has never mentioned to my recollection! Madam45for2923 May 2017 #46
Message deleted by DU the Administrators Trial_By_Fire May 2017 #48
Are you being facetious? LOL! Geesh! Madam45for2923 May 2017 #50
Message deleted by DU the Administrators Trial_By_Fire May 2017 #51
WTH? Many of your posts went kaput after the hacking? Like this one. Madam45for2923 May 2017 #100
yes uponit7771 May 2017 #29
WTH? Many of your posts went kaput after the hacking? Madam45for2923 May 2017 #99
why the delay? Gothmog May 2017 #22
Reasons not clear. They tried to reach him for comment but did not hear back. Madam45for2923 May 2017 #24
Seems to be a repetitive thing zipplewrath May 2017 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author Hassin Bin Sober May 2017 #77
Okay, that's enough. Iggo May 2017 #31
Message deleted by DU the Administrators rzemanfl May 2017 #63
What's the point of this post? Dyedinthewoolliberal May 2017 #49
I believe he's the only one to miss the FEC deadline. But up to 90 days can be extended. mhw May 2017 #65
Have those laws actually been passed? I know there were states considering it but didn't know any seaglass May 2017 #69
Message deleted by DU the Administrators Sissyk May 2017 #78
To continue the 'Bernie Bad' fixation some around here can't seem to shake... WoonTars May 2017 #67
Sanders is the nation's "most popular active politician," Hortensis May 2017 #97
To rehash the primary in a sufficiently indirect, passive aggressive fashion QC May 2017 #88
At some point this may become a story, and since eventually, extensions will run JCanete May 2017 #53
Yes it is article worthy! Why should reporters ignore FEC filings/deadlines/extensions? Madam45for2923 May 2017 #56
well since you posted this 2 week postponement, what does it mean to you? nt JCanete May 2017 #75
It means watch and see. Madam45for2923 May 2017 #76
Good question, especially given how much is going on with Trump. demmiblue May 2017 #57
Whenever Trump has an especially bad day, QC May 2017 #89
Come on. Reporting was delayed all through the 2015/16 primary Hortensis May 2017 #98
I am curious. I hope he didn't do something stupid, because it hurts the things JCanete May 2017 #102
Everyone does stupid things, and it's unfair to pretend Hortensis May 2017 #103
Give it a break iamateacher May 2017 #58
When my husband was a consultant he routinely filed for tax extensions, would pay in August I think Hekate May 2017 #70
It looks like some people missed WellDarn May 2017 #74
I just got called on a jury on a post from this thread. I wish I could have voted on your Maraya1969 May 2017 #79
I filed for an extension on my taxes one year. Else You Are Mad May 2017 #83
You made baby Jesus cry!!! QC May 2017 #90
Message deleted by DU the Administrators Chevy May 2017 #84
You know, it seems to me that Bernie is fading into the background a bit lately chowder66 May 2017 #91
Wondering why there are so many of the posts in this thread gone after the hacking yesterday! Madam45for2923 May 2017 #101
 

Volstagg

(233 posts)
61. I get it's the title.
Wed May 17, 2017, 03:54 PM
May 2017

I guess my questions/comments weren't necessarily aimed at you, but the concept. Not sure how you feel about the issue.

This seems like a non-issue to me. He filed for an extension and it was granted. This isn't a problem.

 

Volstagg

(233 posts)
59. So he didn't miss the deadline.
Wed May 17, 2017, 03:53 PM
May 2017

He got an extension. The extension is the new deadline.

Why is this an issue?

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
4. From the article it sounds he's done this before in other years.
Wed May 17, 2017, 02:16 PM
May 2017

Maybe he is not good at doing the paperwork.

Response to Me. (Reply #3)

Cha

(297,187 posts)
96. I guess it's too much to ask for Transparancy
Thu May 18, 2017, 03:29 AM
May 2017

from all our Senators..

snip//

Meanwhile, Vermont’s other senator, Democrat Patrick Leahy, filed his report on time.
All U.S. senators are required to file annual reports with the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Ethics, detailing their assets, liabilities and investments, as well as gifts and travel provided by private entities.

snip//

Sanders was granted a 20-day extension, and his disclosure is now due on June 4. According to Senate rules, extensions may be granted for up to 90 days.

Once filed, the 2016 report will shade in some of Sanders’ financial details during an exceptionally busy year for the senator, who ran an upstart bid for president before writing a best-selling book reflecting on the campaign.

snip//

Since 2012, Leahy has never missed a deadline or requested an extension, while online records show Sanders requested filing extensions on his 2012, 2014 and 2015 reports.

More..
http://www.vnews.com/SANDERS-MISSES-ANOTHER-FINANCIAL-REPORTING-DEADLINE-10072890

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
33. He's not been a great ally. I find the waters too muddied already and the
Wed May 17, 2017, 03:09 PM
May 2017

Endless and vague allegations of corruption tiresome. And coming from someone hiding their own financial records, a bit galling actually. Maybe he's not in a good position himself to be an ally regarding the Russian investigations, I don't know. I have a feeling he's going to take a hard fall.

Cha

(297,187 posts)
85. He's always accusing the Democratic Party
Wed May 17, 2017, 05:01 PM
May 2017

of this and that.. I think we need Transparency from him.. do not think it's too much to ask.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
68. Between the passive aggressive swipes at so many Dems and the propensity
Wed May 17, 2017, 04:08 PM
May 2017

To hold out or hold the party hostage, I'm pretty fed up. I'm sure he thinks the ends justifies the shitty means- but I don't see anything good that's come of it so far. I feel like he is still confusing voters as well as normalizing Trump and both those things suck.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
73. Yeah this is about current events- we need to realize the RW is saving their attacks on him-
Wed May 17, 2017, 04:24 PM
May 2017

And while most of their attacks will have little to no merit, they're just waiting in the wings. And the taxes and bank fraud issues would be bigger.

It's not that he's squeaky clean, it's just he's serving RW agenda and the media right now with this divisiveness. I think we'd see a whole lot of scandal mongering crap if he was really unifying with Dems against Trump.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
80. There's not a problem unless he misses the last extension deadline
Wed May 17, 2017, 04:48 PM
May 2017

Until then, I don't see any transparency problem. There's no rush to get his returns for anything going on before then, from what I can tell.

Cha

(297,187 posts)
86. If he wants to "remake" the Democratic Party in
Wed May 17, 2017, 05:04 PM
May 2017

his "image" then he better be transparent.

Everyone else releases theirs.. like President Obama that he's always got something negative to say about.

PatsFan87

(368 posts)
8. He's been busy and got an extension. The primaries are over, please stop fighting them.
Wed May 17, 2017, 02:25 PM
May 2017

There's more important fish to fry with this cluster mess of a White House.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
10. From article same has happened in other years: 2012, 2014, 2015
Wed May 17, 2017, 02:33 PM
May 2017
Since 2012, Leahy has never missed a deadline or requested an extension, while online records show Sanders requested filing extensions on his 2012, 2014 and 2015 reports.


https://vtdigger.org/2017/05/16/sanders-misses-another-financial-reporting-deadline/

PatsFan87

(368 posts)
11. Requesting a filing extension isn't a crime. As long as he gets it in within the extension,
Wed May 17, 2017, 02:38 PM
May 2017

this is a non-issue. Please stop being divisive when we need a united front of Hillary/Obama/Bernie people to deal with the Trump mess.

PatsFan87

(368 posts)
25. It really is though. I haven't seen any anti-Hillary threads in a while even though the narrative
Wed May 17, 2017, 03:04 PM
May 2017

is supposed to be that rabid Bernie folk are dividing and destroying the party. I continue to see anti-Bernie threads including the bullshit one about 2020 from the other day (how dare Bernie not have a super PAC 3 and a half years out from 2020, that MONSTER!!). Bernie haters need to get over 2016 and keep their eyes on the true enemy: Trump. We need to have a united front to deal with this catastrophic mess and the divisive posts stand in the way of that.

PatsFan87

(368 posts)
32. Funny how consistency and trust are suddenly major issues now.
Wed May 17, 2017, 03:09 PM
May 2017

Is there anything from Bernie's prior tax returns that anyone has any issues with? I'm all ears.

Response to PatsFan87 (Reply #32)

PatsFan87

(368 posts)
44. Damn he's doing pretty amazing for himself for someone
Wed May 17, 2017, 03:33 PM
May 2017

with such low intellect... consistently ranked as one of if not the most popular senator, has the ear of a huge portion of young folk, has haters following his every move to try to take him down because he's so threatening, on all the news shows, a successful book, asked to go along with Perez on a Unity tour where people boo Perez and cheer him, told to go campaign for every house candidate because he's so popular. What a star he is and in such demand for someone so intellectually deficient. Gives hope to everyone out there.

Once someone has an actual scandal, come back and try again. The White House is basically on fire and our democracy under attack and people are concerned about filing deadlines and extensions. What a joke.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
62. Poster was talking about TRUMP!! TRUMP OK! TRUMP w the low intellect
Wed May 17, 2017, 03:59 PM
May 2017

It is obvious they were talking about TRUMP.

George II

(67,782 posts)
41. This discussion is about the requirement for 100 Senators to file....
Wed May 17, 2017, 03:28 PM
May 2017

....their personal financial disclosures by May 15 each year. Last I looked Hillary Clinton isn't a United States Senator.

PatsFan87

(368 posts)
47. And he got an extension which is perfectly legal. Once you have an actual story
Wed May 17, 2017, 03:34 PM
May 2017

to talk about, come back to me.

PatsFan87

(368 posts)
55. Fiction? No. Something to be up in arms over? No.
Wed May 17, 2017, 03:48 PM
May 2017

If he doesn't turn in what he needs to by the end of the extension deadline, there's the story worthy of discussion.

QC

(26,371 posts)
87. Alas, the primaries will never be over for some people.
Thu May 18, 2017, 12:13 AM
May 2017

For them time stopped about a year ago and no power in heaven or on earth can get them to move on.

 

Trial_By_Fire

(624 posts)
34. Is there a law that says he has to? Are you saing all members of Congress should show their returns?
Wed May 17, 2017, 03:10 PM
May 2017

I might support a law requiring *all* members of Congress/President and candidates to
provide their returns..

murielm99

(30,736 posts)
20. There are quite a few reasons.
Wed May 17, 2017, 03:00 PM
May 2017

Was Jane paid by the campaign? How did they finance the beach house? And above all, why do other politicians running for office show their tax returns, but not Bernie or trump? Why shouldn't they be held to the same standard?

I am sure other people can come up with more reasons.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
38. Seems to be a repetitive thing
Wed May 17, 2017, 03:24 PM
May 2017

I suspect it has to do with the complexity of his wife's finances. His run for office probably helped too, not to mention the book. But he seems to need this frequently and he hasn't had those excuses.

Response to Gothmog (Reply #22)

 

mhw

(678 posts)
65. I believe he's the only one to miss the FEC deadline. But up to 90 days can be extended.
Wed May 17, 2017, 04:01 PM
May 2017

He's good for 90 more days.

As far as taxes, should he choose to run in 2020, he will have to release them in order to comply with new election laws recently enacted in many States.
These new laws state that if a candidate wants their name on the ballot they must show their tax returns.
Thanks to Trump.

Its actually a law that is needed, to give some semblance of integrity to the process.
Thanks to Trump.

Trump's thumbing his nose at all things has created much mistrust.
Its a fair Law.


seaglass

(8,171 posts)
69. Have those laws actually been passed? I know there were states considering it but didn't know any
Wed May 17, 2017, 04:11 PM
May 2017

had passed.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
97. Sanders is the nation's "most popular active politician,"
Thu May 18, 2017, 06:47 AM
May 2017

right now because he is the only one at the "presidential" campaign level--which is the only office most people pay any attention to.

But he occupies that very prominent position right now because -- very importantly -- he has not ruled out running again for either the Senate in 2018 or the presidency in 2020.

And, of course, he has always avoided producing his financials by kicking that can further down the road. THIS time, if he intends to run for the Senate, he has to make a choice by the upcoming deadline.

That makes this news.

QC

(26,371 posts)
88. To rehash the primary in a sufficiently indirect, passive aggressive fashion
Thu May 18, 2017, 12:20 AM
May 2017

as to avoid getting a hidden post.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
53. At some point this may become a story, and since eventually, extensions will run
Wed May 17, 2017, 03:44 PM
May 2017

out, we will all finally see if there is anything here worth talking breathless about. This OP is literally saying reporting got delayed for like 2 weeks. Was it article worthy? Was it post worthy?

demmiblue

(36,845 posts)
57. Good question, especially given how much is going on with Trump.
Wed May 17, 2017, 03:49 PM
May 2017

Things that make you go 'hmmm'...

QC

(26,371 posts)
89. Whenever Trump has an especially bad day,
Thu May 18, 2017, 12:21 AM
May 2017

the divisiveness here gets cranked up to 11.

Never fails.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
98. Come on. Reporting was delayed all through the 2015/16 primary
Thu May 18, 2017, 08:55 AM
May 2017

and now in 2017 up through this latest extension.

Aren't you curious why? I don't figure the reason's anything huge. After all, the IRS knows what he hasn't been reporting. It's most likely just something that doesn't fit the image he's created, but he has a year and a half for voters to forget whatever it is, and supporters forgive everything but child molestation in less time than it takes to get a glass of water, most others never hear about it, and the few who do...whatever, according to their natures.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
102. I am curious. I hope he didn't do something stupid, because it hurts the things
Thu May 18, 2017, 03:01 PM
May 2017

he stands for and people, even democrats, will let it hurt the things he stands for, which is a serious tragedy, but in the scheme of things, the timeline you just laid out, 2 more weeks doesn't really say much. Reporting on it, or more to the point, posting it here, is gossipy, intended to paint him as hiding something, which sure, he might be, and I am sure there are eyes on it that will point that out if such information comes to light, but right now there's nothing here, and he didn't kick it down the road another year this time...again, 2 weeks.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
103. Everyone does stupid things, and it's unfair to pretend
Thu May 18, 2017, 03:23 PM
May 2017

they're bigger than they are, but that's how politics are played. If more people were honest and rejected lies and dishonorable behaviors, such as filing phony lawsuits, politics would be very different. No public figure can avoid that these days, but he got far, far, far less of it than his opponent last time and would this time if it came to it.

In any case, I don't think you should imagine tragedy. Besides the extremely short caring curve I mentioned, frankly I sort of suspect by 2018, certainly by 2020, someone else will have risen to leadership. There are a lot of good people out there. Not that he'll be gone, but just maybe sort of a populist elder? That degenerative arthritis in his neck and shoulders looks very painful. My best cast as an oracle, anyway.

But, sure. This final deadline (for the Senate race only) runs in 2 weeks. 2020 we'd be back to the can until or if he won the primary.

Hekate

(90,667 posts)
70. When my husband was a consultant he routinely filed for tax extensions, would pay in August I think
Wed May 17, 2017, 04:12 PM
May 2017

It's all on the up-and-up, and allows people who are extremely busy in the first part of the year time to get all their paperwork in order.

When he started teaching at the local college he played the game differently. Because the paychecks only came in during the teaching season, he had as much taken out of his paycheck as possible, thus giving us a summer "paycheck" in the form of a tax return.

All 100% legal.

 

WellDarn

(255 posts)
74. It looks like some people missed
Wed May 17, 2017, 04:30 PM
May 2017

Another important date

July 26, 2016

Because, to see the hate for our party's biggest ally, you would think it never happened.

Maraya1969

(22,479 posts)
79. I just got called on a jury on a post from this thread. I wish I could have voted on your
Wed May 17, 2017, 04:47 PM
May 2017

OP. I would have said, "It Clearly Breaks the law"

All your surreptitiousness about 'reporting about present news fools no one. I know what it is about, everyone else knows what it is about and most of us wish you would get over it and talk about what is really important in today's world.

k?

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
83. I filed for an extension on my taxes one year.
Wed May 17, 2017, 04:51 PM
May 2017

Does that mean I did not file my tax return? No, as long as he was granted the extension, this is no big deal. He has been on the road supporting Democrats and is busy. I would imagine that most Senators have done this.

chowder66

(9,067 posts)
91. You know, it seems to me that Bernie is fading into the background a bit lately
Thu May 18, 2017, 02:14 AM
May 2017

so I really don't understand these kind of OP's. Bad news is at least news? I really like Bernie so this isn't a dig on him but I just wonder, what's the point of this kind of OP? There is nothing more significant right now than the Trump/Russia/Obstruction story.

The Democrats should be supported in the meantime. If Bernies' follower's want to boost Bernie, then fine but we really should be reporting on positive Democratic stories outside of Trump-gate. I don't see a need for Bernie bashing, just let his story/message find it's place and leave it.... unless it's seriously major shit.

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