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MineralMan

(146,316 posts)
Thu May 18, 2017, 03:45 PM May 2017

If Joe Lieberman becomes FBI Director,

He'll get a nice office in the J. Edgar Hoover building, where he can sit and watch people do their jobs. Other than that, he won't really have any duties, since he has no clue what they do there. Since he'll be the boss, he can set his own hours. If he gets bored watching people work, he can go to lunch and take the afternoon off.

Then, once a month, a tidy salary will be automatically deposited in his checking account. Every so often, he'll have to sign some papers and will be given a briefing paper he can take to the President.

Nice "work," if you can get it...and you can get it if you lie.

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If Joe Lieberman becomes FBI Director, (Original Post) MineralMan May 2017 OP
Excuse me.... FarPoint May 2017 #1
Yes, but, that doesn't really matter, you see. MineralMan May 2017 #3
Think of Henry Blake as FBI Director. no_hypocrisy May 2017 #5
Okay.. FarPoint May 2017 #13
MMan, I wish I could agree with you. kstewart33 May 2017 #20
Mueller will walk rings around him. Lieberaman has no chance MineralMan May 2017 #23
That's exactly what it is like. The criminal gets to pick Alice11111 May 2017 #41
Well said. kstewart33 May 2017 #54
I went on a tour of the FBI in 1972 when I was 19. PufPuf23 May 2017 #26
Clear conflict of interest. WTF is wrong w these people? Alice11111 May 2017 #32
GOD!!! He Works For The Law Firm Defending Trump...? The Wielding Truth May 2017 #35
Apparently there was a Tweet by K Tur NBC FarPoint May 2017 #47
Seems this could disqualify him. He is not impartial. The Wielding Truth May 2017 #48
That was my gut feeling... FarPoint May 2017 #49
Are you arguing against something not in the OP? WinkyDink May 2017 #43
Maybe I am... FarPoint May 2017 #45
There's a Shake Shack down the block from HQ. NightWatcher May 2017 #2
That's true. And, with his high position, he can invite people MineralMan May 2017 #4
Will the Dems agree to this? Ilsa May 2017 #6
Democrats are in the minority in the Senate. MineralMan May 2017 #7
But what's the reason he would be selected? eleny May 2017 #8
I don't know. I think they figured out that MineralMan May 2017 #9
I agree regarding his qualifications eleny May 2017 #15
Bottom line - Trump wants an FBI director whom he can control. kstewart33 May 2017 #21
Zell Miller wasn't available. Or maybe Trump thinks having McCain's BFF at the FBI tblue37 May 2017 #11
Or maybe he's trying to appease Netanyahu before he visits Israel? kentuck May 2017 #16
After the major blurting out of the intel this sounds like just the manipulation to patch things up eleny May 2017 #25
Interesting about McCain eleny May 2017 #18
the lieber.. man jimjc May 2017 #10
If he gets it. Its because he's willing to end the Russian Investigation Thrill May 2017 #12
I agree. He'll be a figure head LeftInTX May 2017 #14
Setting his own hours kskiska May 2017 #17
Do you have a problem with Jewish people taking Friday nights and Saturday off? former9thward May 2017 #52
Ok, I'm being Ageist but FFS he's 75 !!! Is there no one else ??? He'd have a 10 year term as well ! OnDoutside May 2017 #19
All that means is that he'll need a nice sofa in his office MineralMan May 2017 #24
He'll probably die in his office. It would be a shame if any Democrat votes for him. OnDoutside May 2017 #28
Some will, though. Enough to make 60 if there's a hint of a filibuster. MineralMan May 2017 #30
I bet Manchin will be one of them. OnDoutside May 2017 #37
Certainly he will. MineralMan May 2017 #38
It's a 3 year term, no way he keeps his job when sanity regains the white house MattP May 2017 #29
Is it an Interim or Full position ? OnDoutside May 2017 #36
Trump's top 3 choices took themselves out of the runnin NewJeffCT May 2017 #42
Meh Proud Liberal Dem May 2017 #22
Trumps Nazi fan boys are going to shit over this elehhhhna May 2017 #27
He's old, now. And weak. And too nicey nice. He needs to be needed and liked. Honeycombe8 May 2017 #31
See, you're not thinking right. They don't really want an FBI MineralMan May 2017 #33
You are right. Lieberman is their man. nt Honeycombe8 May 2017 #51
Picking Lieberman just shows how NOT serious they are. n/t cynatnite May 2017 #34
Should the FBI Director TNNurse May 2017 #39
Well, normally, yes... MineralMan May 2017 #40
Lieberman was the Attorney General of Connecticut in the 80s NewJeffCT May 2017 #44
Bad selection. More conflicts. He introduce Betsy DeVos to the Senate for her confirmation hearing Fla Dem May 2017 #46
He was the Connecticut attorney general from 83-89. madinmaryland May 2017 #50
Someone edited Wikipedia to remove Trump from Joe Lieberman's law firm's list of clients HAB911 May 2017 #53

FarPoint

(12,400 posts)
1. Excuse me....
Thu May 18, 2017, 03:51 PM
May 2017

But ..Joe Lieberman had no such experience in law enforcement... SECONDLY...He Works For The Law Firm Defending Trump... How is this not exposed by our media?

MineralMan

(146,316 posts)
3. Yes, but, that doesn't really matter, you see.
Thu May 18, 2017, 03:56 PM
May 2017

He won't be doing anything at the FBI. That's my point. He'll be a figurehead Director. The rest of the FBI will see to that.

Nice people will come to his office and answer his questions. They'll give him real good answers, too. They'll say, "Yes sir, we'll get right on that," if he makes a request of some kind. They'll say, "I'll check into that for you right away, sir," if he asks any difficult questions, and then figure out how to best answer him so he'll think they're doing what he wants. There will be someone right outside his office to help him find the Director's restroom and things like that, whenever he needs to go.

During his first week, too, they'll give him a tour of the building and spend some time in the laboratory. That's really cool. They can show him how they match rifling marks on bullets and all stuff like that. He'll be very impressed with the technology. They might even show him the weapons room, where he can look at guns used by criminals.

And Lieberman will smile. And then, he'll take an early lunch and call it a day. Remember: He's a politician. That's what he thinks he's supposed to do.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
20. MMan, I wish I could agree with you.
Thu May 18, 2017, 04:27 PM
May 2017

I followed Holy Joe years ago, and IMHO he's a terrible choice.

He did Al Gore no favors as his VP candidate in the 2000 campaign, especially in the closing months (e.g., getting creamed by Cheney in the VP debate). Trump is a long-time client of his law firm. He is petulant and prone to grudges - most obvious in his independent run. Mueller would have fits working with him.

I wouldn't trust him to sweep my sidewalk.

I frankly wouldn't trust anyone who Trump nominates. It's like letting the guy who's on trial to pick the judge.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
41. That's exactly what it is like. The criminal gets to pick
Thu May 18, 2017, 04:58 PM
May 2017

who oversees the investigation.

We need someone w the guts to investigate Lyin Sessions, who perjured himself, and Pence, who oversaw the transition team and damn well knew about Flynn, in spite of his OVERDONE public charade, that he knew nothing.

There are so many flaws in our Constitution. That's not an anti American statement. (It's like my garden has become a mess over the winter. I love my garden. I need to clean it up.) We need to update. Unfortunately, not under this Congress or these courts.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
54. Well said.
Fri May 19, 2017, 09:24 AM
May 2017

We hope and hope that a thorough, objective investigation will be done.

Then we wonder: Why the heck do we have to hope? Shouldn't Congress be better than this? They should be, but they aren't.

PufPuf23

(8,777 posts)
26. I went on a tour of the FBI in 1972 when I was 19.
Thu May 18, 2017, 04:36 PM
May 2017

Part of the tour took the group to a shooting range in the basement.

They let some of us volunteer to taker a shot at a target with a real FBI handgun.

I have long wondered if that was still part of the FBI tour. For some reason I doubt so.

FarPoint

(12,400 posts)
47. Apparently there was a Tweet by K Tur NBC
Thu May 18, 2017, 05:08 PM
May 2017

Sharing this information...I have yet to validate...I don't Tweet...a friend shares what he finds...it caught my attention.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
2. There's a Shake Shack down the block from HQ.
Thu May 18, 2017, 03:53 PM
May 2017

Plus he could drop in to the Spy Museum for some background on tradecraft.

MineralMan

(146,316 posts)
4. That's true. And, with his high position, he can invite people
Thu May 18, 2017, 03:57 PM
May 2017

to lunch with him whenever he wants. It's a great job! He'll love it!

MineralMan

(146,316 posts)
7. Democrats are in the minority in the Senate.
Thu May 18, 2017, 04:04 PM
May 2017

It won't matter, and a few will vote for him anyhow.

None of this matters. Lieberman will be just a figurehead at the FBI. Guaranteed.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
8. But what's the reason he would be selected?
Thu May 18, 2017, 04:04 PM
May 2017

There must be some deal made. Like someone else posted earlier, maybe it was you, that he's to be Trump's eyes and ears at the Bureau.

JL is not a benign pick.

MineralMan

(146,316 posts)
9. I don't know. I think they figured out that
Thu May 18, 2017, 04:05 PM
May 2017

they needed a figurehead in there. Lieberman will be good at that. He isn't qualified to do anything else at the FBI.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
15. I agree regarding his qualifications
Thu May 18, 2017, 04:11 PM
May 2017

What you pointed out plus I'm sure there are still Dems around who feel he still leans left on some issues. But there has to be more for Trump to select him.

I'm in the eyes and ears camp. Knowledge is power and Trump would have to be eager to know what's going on so he can plan strategy to motivate his base.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
21. Bottom line - Trump wants an FBI director whom he can control.
Thu May 18, 2017, 04:28 PM
May 2017

And Holy Joe fits that job qualification to a tee.

He'll be Trump's inside spy. Joe's got just the character to do that.

tblue37

(65,377 posts)
11. Zell Miller wasn't available. Or maybe Trump thinks having McCain's BFF at the FBI
Thu May 18, 2017, 04:07 PM
May 2017

will quiet McCain's complaints.

kentuck

(111,098 posts)
16. Or maybe he's trying to appease Netanyahu before he visits Israel?
Thu May 18, 2017, 04:11 PM
May 2017

He may be an acceptable candidate for BiBi?

eleny

(46,166 posts)
25. After the major blurting out of the intel this sounds like just the manipulation to patch things up
Thu May 18, 2017, 04:35 PM
May 2017

At least from Trump's point of view. But my goodness how cheap and insulting if that's the case.

 

jimjc

(69 posts)
10. the lieber.. man
Thu May 18, 2017, 04:05 PM
May 2017

It's some kind of inside deal trump made...probably something to do with how slowly they go on the russia stuff...string it out for long time until people forget most...I never cared for Lieberman

Thrill

(19,178 posts)
12. If he gets it. Its because he's willing to end the Russian Investigation
Thu May 18, 2017, 04:08 PM
May 2017

And put a Dem face on it. I don't trust him at all. That weasel.

At 75 he has no business being the Director of the FBI. No connections to the agency at all

former9thward

(32,012 posts)
52. Do you have a problem with Jewish people taking Friday nights and Saturday off?
Thu May 18, 2017, 06:44 PM
May 2017

Or should Jews be forced to work all seven days?

MineralMan

(146,316 posts)
24. All that means is that he'll need a nice sofa in his office
Thu May 18, 2017, 04:33 PM
May 2017

for his afternoon nap, or his mid-morning nap if he's taking off early.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
42. Trump's top 3 choices took themselves out of the runnin
Thu May 18, 2017, 05:00 PM
May 2017

John Cornyn and two others whom I forget

Edited to add: Trey Gowdy was a second

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
22. Meh
Thu May 18, 2017, 04:30 PM
May 2017

I don't like this idea (don't like JL in particular) but as much as it saddens me to say it, this is *probably* as good of a person as is going to be nominated by Trump. I mean, if we don't want somebody like Guiliani (who technically has more experience but is severely compromised himself). This whole scenario is basically why, as much as I don't like how Comey managed everything last year with Hillary, he still was more professional and had more personal integrity and professional experience than anybody else Trump might nominate to replace him.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
31. He's old, now. And weak. And too nicey nice. He needs to be needed and liked.
Thu May 18, 2017, 04:46 PM
May 2017

That doesn't make for a good FBI Director.

MineralMan

(146,316 posts)
33. See, you're not thinking right. They don't really want an FBI
Thu May 18, 2017, 04:48 PM
May 2017

Director. They want someone to sit in that office and do what Trump says. Of course, as a figurehead, he'll be ignored by the career FBI folks, anyhow, so...

Seriously.

MineralMan

(146,316 posts)
40. Well, normally, yes...
Thu May 18, 2017, 04:58 PM
May 2017

But, if you want a figurehead, you appoint someone who is way off-base, and then he can be flummoxed or blinded by science or something. Trump does not want a real law-enforcement type in that position. Wouldn't be prudent. Not at this juncture.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
44. Lieberman was the Attorney General of Connecticut in the 80s
Thu May 18, 2017, 05:05 PM
May 2017

not that gives him experience with the FBI, but it's state level justice.

Fla Dem

(23,675 posts)
46. Bad selection. More conflicts. He introduce Betsy DeVos to the Senate for her confirmation hearing
Thu May 18, 2017, 05:07 PM
May 2017
In March 2013, it was announced that Lieberman would be joining the conservative American Enterprise Institute think tank as co-chairman of their American Internationalism Project, alongside former Republican Senator Jon Kyl.

]In early 2017, Lieberman introduced Pres.-elect Donald Trump's nominee as Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos to the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pension committee.

One report on Lieberman's involvement was critical of him for failing to disclose in his testimony the extensive legal work his Kasowitz, Benson, Torres & Friedman law firm had done for Donald Trump since at least as long ago as 2001. The work included bankrupt casino restructuring and, during the 2016 campaign, threatening the New York Times over publication of a few 1995 Trump tax documents.[68]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Lieberman

This is a position for 10 years, he's 75.
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