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First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
Thu May 18, 2017, 08:04 PM May 2017

What gets me is--did these people all think they could get away with it...?

...I mean--the sheer scale of the venality, corruption, treason, by now, seems beyond question. They might as well have run around carrying huge neon signs saying, "I am a traitor". Their "cover-up" would have disgraced the Marx Brothers. I doubt that Trump himself bothered his pretty little head about such matters. He just took it all for granted that it would all blow over. But the others! Flynn, Manafort, Pence, his family...probably Ryan and McTurtle--what on earth was going thru *their* heads? Were they really *this* arrogant? They make the Nixon crew look like Machiavellian geniuses...

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tblue37

(65,528 posts)
1. Yes, because they have taken control of all 3 branches of government, as well as much of the media,
Thu May 18, 2017, 08:07 PM
May 2017

and also the state level governments. And don't forget that their gerrymandering and voter suppression efforts have made it virtually impossible to vote them out.

Of course they expected to get away with it. They still do.

kairos12

(12,896 posts)
2. All his life Drumpt had gotten away with his bullying way. I just our
Thu May 18, 2017, 08:07 PM
May 2017

Constitutional protections are good enough to hold him.

mn9driver

(4,429 posts)
4. Most criminals I have been unfortunate enough to know are convinced
Thu May 18, 2017, 08:27 PM
May 2017

that they are smarter than the cops. Even after they get caught, they still believe this.

briv1016

(1,570 posts)
7. Who says he won't?
Thu May 18, 2017, 08:40 PM
May 2017

If Mueller gets close, Donald can just fire him. Congress won't do anything. Pence is leading a voter suppression commission so '18 is definitely not a done deal.

Don't count your chickens just yet.

pnwest

(3,266 posts)
9. I think that every time I see someone get busted who's so out and out blatant
Thu May 18, 2017, 08:56 PM
May 2017

and STUPID in their actions!

From the big-time politician who gets nailed for having an affair, down to the little local non-profit book keeper who bilks the organization out of 1000's of dollars. HOW can they think they won't get caught?! It baffles me!

And then to just continue to lie and deny - like video tape and recordings were never invented.

Anthony Wiener is a perfect example. HOW can he think he'd never be caught sending photos of his junk via text? AND THEN KEEP DOING IT AFTER HE GOT BUSTED THE FIRST TIME??!!! Just dumbfounded, slack-jawed in wonder at that level of stupid.

Generic Brad

(14,276 posts)
10. Republicans have been getting away with it since Nixon
Thu May 18, 2017, 09:13 PM
May 2017

The party of personal responsibility apparently feels everyone should be held responsible except for them.

GoCubsGo

(32,100 posts)
11. Yes, because they don't have a damn clue as to how the US Government operates.
Thu May 18, 2017, 09:23 PM
May 2017

They bought into their own "run the government like a business" bullshit. And, they actually believe they can hide their criminal activities the way one can in the business world.

MedusaX

(1,129 posts)
12. 45 let his alligator mouth get him in over his head... he thought he had a fool proof plan & Putin /
Thu May 18, 2017, 09:44 PM
May 2017

Mercer played him....

DjT blowhard, that he is, has been Russias bitch for a long time...
all those years of bluster and bravado spewing forth from his mouth as he tried to impress the very 'bosses' that he so badly aspired to be one day.

He was having fun right up until he was nominated.

Then he started to repeatedly roller coaster from grandiosity to anxiety to desperation and back again...

It was as if he was begging to be eliminated from contention...
when things looked good in polls--
Reality would set in and he would begin to behave like a caged cat looking for a way out of captivity...,

He 'projected' everything we have thus far found to have taken place...
almost pleading for a way out...

DjT never intended to win... afterall then he would be held accountable to the decades of self-promoting bullshit that he had spewed like a geyser of sewage.

Putin & Mercer however knew what 45 did not...
The machines were programmed to give him just enough of a margin to secure the electoral college but not be so 'obvious' as to stand out.

Why do I say this?
Because 45 is the poster boy for Showboat WWE Smackdown Luvin' Bullies who like to rub the Loser's face in the mud.
Yet, there was no huuuuuge election night gala-rama televised with all the big names and adoring masses of MAGA-otts...,

If that m-fukkker had known he was gonna win you can bet your ass there would have been a party on the scale of a Steve Schwarzmann Birthday Bash...


I am sure that the shock & awe of realizing he now had to deliver what he had boasted about ...
was soon replaced with a
grandiose confidence of 'this will be easy'
since all branches are majority complicit
And
Right about now all of those long held fantasies of being officially 'Made'
in the Global Brotherhood of Putin Approved Authoritarians are probably closer to a (well deserved) 24 hr Nightmare for 45.

moondust

(20,025 posts)
13. Monumental arrogance.
Thu May 18, 2017, 10:10 PM
May 2017

The result of a lifetime of unchallenged power as czar of his own private empire. He could run it any way he wanted: hire and fire toadies, promote and demote on a whim, make his own rules, lie and cheat and expect everybody around him to accept it because after all he's the czar who can afford an army of lawyers, little or no accountability, etc.

The others are little more than barnacles on a sick old whale that somehow ended up beached in the desert.

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