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jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
Sun May 21, 2017, 09:48 PM May 2017

Donald Trumps sudden health problems on Saudi trip could be laying groundwork for resignation

Donald Trump lasted all of forty-eight hours into his first overseas trip before he began exhibiting troubling signs about his health and well being, ranging from shortness of breath in the middle of a speech (link) to reading the wrong words off his teleprompter (link), which came across so suspiciously that his own staff felt compelled to make excuses for him. But what if this isn’t what it looks like?
On the surface it appears as if Trump has severe health and stamina issues that have been exposed by his decision to finally take a publicly documented overseas trip. And that’s not all that difficult to believe when you consider that he’s seventy years old, he’s obese, he brags of his poor eating habits, he kept his medical records suppressed during the election, and he appears to rely solely on a quack doctor who’s willing to tell whatever lies he wants to hear. But his sudden descent into suspiciously poor health, this early in his trip, considering what’s going on in the larger picture is suspicious in and of itself.

http://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/resign-trump-health/2989/
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Donald Trumps sudden health problems on Saudi trip could be laying groundwork for resignation (Original Post) jaysunb May 2017 OP
And - he accused HRC of being ill and having "low energy", marybourg May 2017 #1
The media jumped on that also. Hillary had walking pneumonia, and for that still_one May 2017 #28
He used to call Jeb Bush low energy, too. nt Honeycombe8 May 2017 #29
He's well enough to travel to his Florida golf course every weekend... brush May 2017 #77
He's 70 years old in poor physical shape. It makes sense to me that he is tired. mucifer May 2017 #2
71 very soon. JenniferJuniper May 2017 #4
He's in bad shape, has a terrible diet, doesn't believe in exercise and must be feeling far more str LenaBaby61 May 2017 #39
He's bigger in the butt than Roseanne Barr... Rollo May 2017 #57
Taft ran for a second term, he lost to Woodrow Wilson. LeftInTX May 2017 #66
Cher is 71 itsrobert May 2017 #72
Trump sure ain't no Cher. n/t JenniferJuniper May 2017 #97
I would say it's not so much being 70 but all the rest. pangaia May 2017 #79
Heh! Maynar May 2017 #99
Jet lag, a very hot climate, obesity, poor diet, bad sleep habits, tblue37 May 2017 #84
I am convinced he will resign Mme. Defarge May 2017 #3
Yep. He'll claim victory and resign Hassin Bin Sober May 2017 #15
That's the most likely reason, IMO, Mme. Defarge May 2017 #21
If that is how he does it, murielm99 May 2017 #76
His motto is "never give up", remember. Duppers May 2017 #36
He should go jogging. 108 degrees in Riyadh tomorrow leftstreet May 2017 #5
yes the fresh air might do him wonders :P luvMIdog May 2017 #6
Omg! Lotusflower70 May 2017 #9
Not before some proper nourishment dalton99a May 2017 #22
Don't forget the 48 oz diet coke....... alittlelark May 2017 #53
And a BIG slice of beautiful chocolate cake with two scoops... Buns_of_Fire May 2017 #81
You are very, very wicked. stage left May 2017 #50
Behind an old bus belching diesel smoke. lpbk2713 May 2017 #67
He just survived an active campaign schedule. Barack_America May 2017 #7
What was his longest stint on the road? jberryhill May 2017 #12
He would fly home early every night during the campaign. tammywammy May 2017 #18
It was reported he wanted to sleep in his own bed every night womanofthehills May 2017 #59
and there are no post 7 pm duties at the WH dixiegrrrrl May 2017 #43
And besides not fooled May 2017 #69
LOL - He didn't have to "survive an active campaign schedule" maxrandb May 2017 #93
Although, I'm highly skeptical of any speculation lately. Hugin May 2017 #8
Is it ok to refer to him as... physioex May 2017 #20
Certainly. Hugin May 2017 #23
Honest to God. stage left May 2017 #51
RP Was Called Back to DC Ccarmona May 2017 #49
So far everything he said in campaigne leanforward May 2017 #10
It's not only his physical health, but his mental and emotional health must be stressed to the limit Doodley May 2017 #11
Probably, all that yelling and cursing he did the past week womanofthehills May 2017 #61
Yeah, He Doesn't RobinA May 2017 #96
Sump does not handle stress well. Stress for him is traveling outside his comfort zone. Like out of Nitram May 2017 #13
Maybe he'll have his Dr write him a note JDC May 2017 #14
Don't get our hopes up. liberal N proud May 2017 #16
This. I'm not buying. n/t moonscape May 2017 #46
Watch his speech - you might buy it. womanofthehills May 2017 #62
I doubt that. He's just a lightweight fat, lazy rich man who isn't accustomed to WORKING. n/t CousinIT May 2017 #17
YEP! YEP! AND YEP!!! bresue May 2017 #19
I think he has a bad case of Demtexan May 2017 #24
+1 n/t jaysunb May 2017 #30
Besides being congested, he was slurring his words again. womanofthehills May 2017 #73
I cannot listen to him talk. Demtexan May 2017 #82
Most of us over 60 are not up to the schedule politicians endure. stopbush May 2017 #25
He does not handle stress well. Demtexan May 2017 #26
I'm not handling the stress of him well either! n/t moonscape May 2017 #47
I know Demtexan May 2017 #48
Thanks. Wise words. n/t moonscape May 2017 #63
Take a break from the news. Demtexan May 2017 #70
I was under a lot under a lot of stress for about a year. Demtexan May 2017 #31
Especially the Secretary of State. milestogo May 2017 #44
Can't wait MFM008 May 2017 #27
Remember, he wanted to cut the trip to only five days. Anyone know when he ever... George II May 2017 #32
He went to Russia. Demtexan May 2017 #35
to Scotland to boss around the folks building his golf course n/t mtngirl47 May 2017 #45
trimp's health problems .... he is sick in the head trueblue2007 May 2017 #33
Palmer links his own article as a source Hokie May 2017 #34
That's one of the things I find strange about the Palmer report worstexever May 2017 #68
Your statement about Palmer is very misleading - there are links to Trump's cancellations womanofthehills May 2017 #71
I didn't see those links Hokie May 2017 #92
Yes. murielm99 May 2017 #78
The Palmer Report? oberliner May 2017 #37
We just got some info from the Palmer report about all Trump's cancellations womanofthehills May 2017 #74
"Laying the groundwork for resignation" is BS oberliner May 2017 #89
Fake news is alive and well on DU. cwydro May 2017 #90
Wishful thinking syndrome oberliner May 2017 #91
He probably is on psych meds. Equinox Moon May 2017 #38
The boy is not all there. Demtexan May 2017 #40
but what about the bad congestion during his speech? womanofthehills May 2017 #64
Prime candidate for a heart attack..... Bayard May 2017 #41
"You can't kill shit...." Kleveland May 2017 #42
Yep!!! The worst hang on!! LeftInTX May 2017 #60
2 words NJCher May 2017 #87
The Palmer Report is fake news. Still, anyone can see that tRump looks terrible.... Julian Englis May 2017 #52
I'm surprised Palmer Report can be cited here SCantiGOP May 2017 #55
Agree Mz Pip May 2017 #65
The Palmer Report always has links to sources womanofthehills May 2017 #80
No it doesn't oberliner May 2017 #88
I pointed that out up above Hokie May 2017 #94
Just claiming something is "fake news" is a cop out womanofthehills May 2017 #75
One can Maynar May 2017 #54
He as aged one year for every month. Demtexan May 2017 #56
But, but, his doctor said he would be the healthiest president in the history of doc03 May 2017 #58
Why not? The GOP can dismantle democracy without him. Beartracks May 2017 #83
Since everyone only has a finite amount of energy, Buns_of_Fire May 2017 #85
I hope journalists hot tail it over to his quack doctor, and OnDoutside May 2017 #86
And they'll get one response: "He's the healthiest president in the history of presidents." Vinca May 2017 #95
I did wonder about this malaise May 2017 #98

marybourg

(12,631 posts)
1. And - he accused HRC of being ill and having "low energy",
Sun May 21, 2017, 09:52 PM
May 2017

a sure sign with Trump that these traits actually apply to him.

still_one

(92,187 posts)
28. The media jumped on that also. Hillary had walking pneumonia, and for that
Sun May 21, 2017, 10:56 PM
May 2017

one incident, the media was speculating and diagnosing bullshit, instead of doing their job and getting the full facts

brush

(53,776 posts)
77. He's well enough to travel to his Florida golf course every weekend...
Mon May 22, 2017, 12:37 AM
May 2017

IMO there's nothing wrong with him that wasn't always there.

He's just a spoiled child who doesn't want to be on that trip so he plays sick.

mucifer

(23,539 posts)
2. He's 70 years old in poor physical shape. It makes sense to me that he is tired.
Sun May 21, 2017, 09:53 PM
May 2017

He's too full of himself to resign.

JenniferJuniper

(4,512 posts)
4. 71 very soon.
Sun May 21, 2017, 09:55 PM
May 2017

He's in bad shape, has a terrible diet, doesn't believe in exercise and must be feeling far more stress than he ever has.

But he'll resign for other reasons.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
39. He's in bad shape, has a terrible diet, doesn't believe in exercise and must be feeling far more str
Sun May 21, 2017, 11:19 PM
May 2017

When you do nothing but eat buckets of greasy, artery-clogging chicken, steaks, and allegedly eat very few veggies and things like Chocolate Cake constantly, and you don't exercise and are 70 years old, well

I loathe watching the crooked, racist, sexist, ruskie-loving treasonous heathen, but I had to watch the clip in which he lost his breath while talking, and yes he looks extremely unhealthy and under the stress of scandal after scandal piling up on him. Plus, he's gaining weight as each month passes. You have another William Howard Taft in the making which could lead him to resign due to "health" reasons. I would hate that he may not get punished and Pence might be rewarded with the presidency even though he's guilty of lying about Flynn's ruskie contacts per Cummings letter to him alerting him about Flynn. tRumputin is guilty as hell of colluding with a foreign government in our elections. He's a treasonous, America-hating, fat bastid.



Rollo

(2,559 posts)
57. He's bigger in the butt than Roseanne Barr...
Sun May 21, 2017, 11:59 PM
May 2017

...and that's saying a LOT...

Anyone else praying he gets a fatal mycardial infarction?

That the portable defibrillator either malfunctions or can't be found?

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
79. I would say it's not so much being 70 but all the rest.
Mon May 22, 2017, 12:40 AM
May 2017

While 70 is not 40, i am 73 and in pretty good shape. I eat well, except 1 or 2 tines a month. 😆 work out 4 xs week, walk a mile or 2 each day, do a tiny flower garden, um...practice a musical inst.2-3 hours/day.usually.

Just bought a small kayak... travel internationally maybe 5-6x a year..
Read a lot...

Jeeze, i get tired just thinking about all that..i better slow down.

😄

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
84. Jet lag, a very hot climate, obesity, poor diet, bad sleep habits,
Mon May 22, 2017, 01:00 AM
May 2017

stress--it all gets to him, I am quite certain.

murielm99

(30,736 posts)
76. If that is how he does it,
Mon May 22, 2017, 12:36 AM
May 2017

and he saves face, so be it. Let's just get rid of him and save the world from nuclear annihilation.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,175 posts)
81. And a BIG slice of beautiful chocolate cake with two scoops...
Mon May 22, 2017, 12:46 AM
May 2017

...no, THREE scoops of ice cream! (After all, he's just a growing boy!)

I wonder if AF1 has to be continually re-trimmed in flight while he oozes around and the weight distribution shifts.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
12. What was his longest stint on the road?
Sun May 21, 2017, 10:04 PM
May 2017

It seemed like he would do fly-in, fly-out events at airports, and then spend a lot of time on the phone with news programs.

He'd only be "on" for relatively short periods, and then relaxing on the plane back to New York.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
18. He would fly home early every night during the campaign.
Sun May 21, 2017, 10:22 PM
May 2017

Only a handful of times do I remember him being somewhere other than NYC overnight.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
43. and there are no post 7 pm duties at the WH
Sun May 21, 2017, 11:29 PM
May 2017

It has been reported several times that he quits work early evening, goes up to his bedroom, watches tv, eats snacks ( by the car load).

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
69. And besides
Mon May 22, 2017, 12:30 AM
May 2017

during the campaign he was surrounded by crowds of adoring idiots and dealt only with sycophants.

Now he has to contend with all the stress of the presidency including being questioned and openly criticized.

Plus, as others have commented, no doubt his campaign schedule was arranged to suit his preferences.


Have some more KFC, donnie--we know that all that stuff about the deleterious effects of junk food is just fake science from killjoy medical types. Besides, everyone knows you're immune from the laws of nature.



maxrandb

(15,324 posts)
93. LOL - He didn't have to "survive an active campaign schedule"
Mon May 22, 2017, 07:26 AM
May 2017

the fucking media ran the campaign for him.

Hell, all he had to do was Tweet from his gold-plated "shitter" and he got 24/7 promotion.

For 18 months, the cable news shows, and even some of the alphabet networks would broadcast an empty podium with a "Breaking News" banner.

"Active Campaign Schedule" my Ass.....

Hugin

(33,135 posts)
8. Although, I'm highly skeptical of any speculation lately.
Sun May 21, 2017, 10:01 PM
May 2017

This would explain why Rinsed Primate made a quick dash stateside... I guess to "prime-the-pump(tm)".

Still skeptical, but, interesting speculation.

Hugin

(33,135 posts)
23. Certainly.
Sun May 21, 2017, 10:44 PM
May 2017

Along with "Rusty Prius"... That is among the monikers I rotate through when calling out the referenced lout.


leanforward

(1,076 posts)
10. So far everything he said in campaigne
Sun May 21, 2017, 10:02 PM
May 2017

has come back on him. I'm with you jaysunb (been there).

I am a loyal citizen/american/patriot in opposition to pRezident dRumpf and any GOP lemming.

Follow the money. Time line.

He does not have the where with all to complete the trip. I'll let the cartoonist fill in the rest of my opinion.

Doodley

(9,088 posts)
11. It's not only his physical health, but his mental and emotional health must be stressed to the limit
Sun May 21, 2017, 10:03 PM
May 2017

womanofthehills

(8,703 posts)
61. Probably, all that yelling and cursing he did the past week
Mon May 22, 2017, 12:12 AM
May 2017

took a toll on him. He was not breathing well during his last speech.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
96. Yeah, He Doesn't
Mon May 22, 2017, 08:15 AM
May 2017

have the resources to do well outside his rather narrow comfort zone. He's able to cover most of the time, but travel is tremendously stressful. His measured reading of his speech yesterday was him on life support at that given moment. You know that when he sounds even remotely sane, someone else if pulling the strings.

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
13. Sump does not handle stress well. Stress for him is traveling outside his comfort zone. Like out of
Sun May 21, 2017, 10:06 PM
May 2017

Manhattan.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
24. I think he has a bad case of
Sun May 21, 2017, 10:44 PM
May 2017

Russian flu.

A lot of it might be going around the white house.

It is very catching.



stopbush

(24,396 posts)
25. Most of us over 60 are not up to the schedule politicians endure.
Sun May 21, 2017, 10:48 PM
May 2017

You young-uns don't know about this, but sometimes you just hit a wall at our age and everything feels like it's going to hell. You already have challenges and conditions you're managing, so when things get out of kilter, your mind starts racing about what's wrong, and that puts even more pressure on you, psychically and physically.

Add all the stress tRump has put himself under with his lying and obstruction of justice, and I can see him unraveling in very short order.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
26. He does not handle stress well.
Sun May 21, 2017, 10:52 PM
May 2017

In the past he walk away or buy his way out.

He stayed out of the race.

He got greedy.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
48. I know
Sun May 21, 2017, 11:44 PM
May 2017

I dealt with two elderly parents.
I learned how to walk away and relax.
I am now stress proof.
I have herbal zoloft if needed.
This country survived the great depression and WW2.
We will make it.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
31. I was under a lot under a lot of stress for about a year.
Sun May 21, 2017, 11:09 PM
May 2017

Damn near killed me.

I was a lot younger.
.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
44. Especially the Secretary of State.
Sun May 21, 2017, 11:30 PM
May 2017

Constant travel into different time zones. Sleeping and eating at different times every day. I did some international travel when I was in my twenties and found the jet lag to be a challenge. I can't imagine it in my sixties or seventies.

George II

(67,782 posts)
32. Remember, he wanted to cut the trip to only five days. Anyone know when he ever...
Sun May 21, 2017, 11:10 PM
May 2017

...traveled outside the country before?

Hokie

(4,286 posts)
34. Palmer links his own article as a source
Sun May 21, 2017, 11:13 PM
May 2017

That should send up a BS alert. Yes, Trump is apparently in poor shape but there isn't any meat in this article.

worstexever

(265 posts)
68. That's one of the things I find strange about the Palmer report
Mon May 22, 2017, 12:24 AM
May 2017

I haven't decided if I think it's "fake news" yet or not, but linking to your own articles is suspect.

womanofthehills

(8,703 posts)
71. Your statement about Palmer is very misleading - there are links to Trump's cancellations
Mon May 22, 2017, 12:31 AM
May 2017

There is "meat in this article". You don't seem to think all these cancellations are concerning?


Jennifer Jacobs?Verified account @JenniferJJacobs
Trump cancels appearance at Tweeps event. Ivanka standing in for him, speaking to audience of 400.


Anna Ahronheim?Verified account @AAhronheim
More cancellations before #Trump lands in #Israel: Dinner w/Def.Minister @AvigdorLiberman & rumors of Church of Nativity in #Bethlehem


Noga Tarnopolsky?Verified account @NTarnopolsky
New:Trump will NOT be going to Nativity Church in Bethlehem. Rumors in Arab & Hebrew FB say its to avoid encounter with pro-prisoner protest


Pesach 'Pace' Lattin? @pacelattin
Alert: Trump cancels FoxNews meeting without explanation. Now WH has announced the large Monday Night Dinner in Israel is CANCELED.






Hokie

(4,286 posts)
92. I didn't see those links
Mon May 22, 2017, 07:19 AM
May 2017

The only links I found in that article were links to two other of his own articles. One article had a link to a CNN video of Trump's speech. I am fine with that but why not put a time stamp for the gaff? I have no doubt that Trump's stamina is poor and he hates travel as President but any speculation that he is ready to resign is unfounded and probably doesn't help.

BTW, I am a member of Palmer's Facebook group and read it regularly.

womanofthehills

(8,703 posts)
74. We just got some info from the Palmer report about all Trump's cancellations
Mon May 22, 2017, 12:35 AM
May 2017

So who else put all the tweets together of his cancellations? I don't see MSM doing it. Oh - maybe tomorrow.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
89. "Laying the groundwork for resignation" is BS
Mon May 22, 2017, 06:00 AM
May 2017

Based on nothing but ridiculous speculation and designed to get clicks.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
38. He probably is on psych meds.
Sun May 21, 2017, 11:17 PM
May 2017

We have seen him waiver before. Notice how he gets real quiet and slurs his speech? That has been happening all along. I suspect psych meds.

Kleveland

(1,257 posts)
42. "You can't kill shit...."
Sun May 21, 2017, 11:29 PM
May 2017

I once knew a nurse who worked evenings in an ER in a fairly rough part of town.

She told me stories about evil nasty SOB's that were brought in, high on whatever, shot up, knifed, bleeding head wounds, missing limbs... you name it. They always seemed to pull through seemingly beating the odds or expectations.

On the flip side, she also saw many decent, normal and good folks who came in with far less serious injuries, who did not make it.

She told me that the motto among the nurses and doctors at that ER, for such seemingly unjust occurrences was "You can't kill shit".

That always stuck with me, and I am getting that same feeling watching this evil fat fucker get more bloated, sweating, incoherent... more like Baron Harkonnen every day.

(I can't say that I would be sad, or shed a tear for the final and inevitable conclusion to this "problem".... )

Can you feel me?

Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
52. The Palmer Report is fake news. Still, anyone can see that tRump looks terrible....
Sun May 21, 2017, 11:50 PM
May 2017

though Bannon looks worse.

Mz Pip

(27,441 posts)
65. Agree
Mon May 22, 2017, 12:21 AM
May 2017

It's the journalistic equivalent of wishful thinking. Too much speculation masking as news.

womanofthehills

(8,703 posts)
80. The Palmer Report always has links to sources
Mon May 22, 2017, 12:43 AM
May 2017

He basically gathers the news from other sites and puts it all together. What is wrong with that? What has he reported that hurts his credibility?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
88. No it doesn't
Mon May 22, 2017, 05:54 AM
May 2017

In fact, this article in particular has no links to anything besides two other Palmer Report articles.

Hokie

(4,286 posts)
94. I pointed that out up above
Mon May 22, 2017, 07:46 AM
May 2017

He links to another article of his that does have a link to the speech on CNN. He doesn't have anything to back up the main claim of resignation.

womanofthehills

(8,703 posts)
75. Just claiming something is "fake news" is a cop out
Mon May 22, 2017, 12:36 AM
May 2017

We just got some interesting news on Trump's cancellations.

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
83. Why not? The GOP can dismantle democracy without him.
Mon May 22, 2017, 01:00 AM
May 2017

They don't need him anymore. They finagled a Supreme Court seat, and just need some other rubber-stamp Republican in the Oval Office to sign their crap legislation.

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Buns_of_Fire

(17,175 posts)
85. Since everyone only has a finite amount of energy,
Mon May 22, 2017, 01:12 AM
May 2017

maybe the needle just hit "E" and that's all she wrote. For the next 3 1/2 years, he'll just lie on a divan in the WH, stuffing himself with chocolate bon-bons, and yelling for Ivanka to peel him another grape.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
95. And they'll get one response: "He's the healthiest president in the history of presidents."
Mon May 22, 2017, 07:47 AM
May 2017

Unless, of course, the doc's been sent a new script and a big check.

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