Melania does it again - now in Rome!

[madaboutharry]

At the top of the stairs after landing in Rome, he goes for her hand and she jerked it away.

She is pissed about something.

[snooper2]

1. They were forced to sleep in the same room LOL

[uponit7771]

3. +1

[enough]

2. The most interesting thing about that is that he reached for her hand again.

He must not remember what happened the last time.

[uponit7771]

5. Benedict Donald doesn't do the whole remember the past lest repeat the bad part of it thing

[marlakay]

12. I bet they took his phone away

And he isn't watching news, didn't tell him about it because no one wants to be on trip with crazy mad man. Tv wouldn't have it on news in Saudi or Isreal maybe Italy.

[Atman]

21. He was probably briefed about it.

"Remember, you're married to that lovely gift from Putin...try to acknowledge her when you're in front of the cameras. It's good optics."

[PufPuf23]

48. There is no reason to exaggerate about Melania and Putin.

Melania is from Slovenia which is one of the nations that were once part of Yugoslavia.

Slovenia was the most modern and Western (geographically and in culture) part of the former Yugoslavia.

Yugoslavia was communist but a non-aligned nation that was not part of the Warsaw pact during the Cold War.

Slovenian the language is from a different language family from Russian.

Melania gained her own celebrity as a Western European model that came to the USA,

Melania is a materialistic person and a gold digger that married Trump but there is zero chance that she is a "gift from Putin".

That is ludicrous.

[C Moon]

53. People feel so sorry for her, but she married that freak for his money.

I don't feel sorry for her. I imagine she's a jerk, as well.

[PufPuf23]

55. My only point was that Melania is not "a gift from Putin".

She is a gold digger and used her looks to get money and celebrity and to marry Donald Trump.

Melania made her situation and to her benefit and I do not feel sorry for her and also believe she is an entitled jerk.

But she didn't come gift wrapped from Putin and left behind the communist system for excesses of the West even before meeting Trump.

Otherwise I agree 100% with you.

[C Moon]

61. Hi PufPuf23. I was agreeing with you. :)

[PufPuf23]

66. Cool! It wasn't like I was defending Melania at all. nt

[Atman]

71. Totally reasonable explanation.

I won't argue with you on that. I just don't like her, but you're right, she isn't Russian, and (probably) never had any contact with Putin or Trump's Russian beauty contests.

[athena]

85. I object to the term

"gold-digger". It specifically refers to a woman who marries for money. It perpetuates the idea that women are shallow and self-centered. There are other ways do criticize Melania Trump without resorting to that word. Even just saying that Melania married Trump for his money is better than calling her a "gold-digger" because the former is a statement about a specific person, and the latter is a stereotype that damages women in general.

[PufPuf23]

87. Point taken. Some people do marry for money.

Too many people are shallow and self-centered.

Both Donald and Melania Trump appear shallow and self-centered.

Maybe reflexively blaming everything on Putin and Russia is also not always that productive not accurate?

Saying Melania was a "gift" from one man to another is also a stereotype that damages to women in general.

However, Melania is the type of women who finds ways to benefit from a patriarchal system.

[athena]

90. I agree with everything you said.

I agree with all the points you have made. And thank you for understanding.

The women who think they're playing the patriarchy for their own benefit are kidding themselves. In the end, no amount of money can give one even a fraction of the pleasure of sharing one's life with someone one can talk to and trust.

ETA: Someone else on another thread just said they thought it's possible Melania really fell for Donald at one time. It's indeed possible; narcissists can seem very likable in the early days of a relationship. Self-confidence is extremely attractive, and they seem to have an unlimited supply. We'll never really know Melania's innermost thoughts, so perhaps it's best to give her the benefit of the doubt?

[PufPuf23]

95. Good. Thank you very much. nt

[DFW]

56. Slovenian is from a different language family???

Since when? Russian is a Slavic language. Slovenian is a Slavic language.

I've been to Slovenia, if only briefly. To those people who didn't understand German or Italian, I tried my Russian, and we were able to communicate on a rudimentary basis. Like French and Portuguese, both Latin languages, they are by no means mutually intelligible like the Scandinavian languages, but they ARE from the same family.

The rest may be true, but the linguistic info is 180°

[PufPuf23]

64. You are correct; but Slovenian is a different branch of the Slavic language tree than Russian and

is separated by geography and much time of divergence

Slovenian is South Slavic and Russian is East Slavic. Chart I can't get to post.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Slavic_languages_tree.svg


Map of Slavic languages:



I spent two plus weeks in Yugoslavia in 1981, not that long after Tito died. It was an interesting trip in that my exe and I visited two college friends, a couple, from Cal. One was a Cal PhD archeologist doing dissertation fieldwork in Yugoslavia and the other was a Cal Phd Linguist then writing her dissertation whi is now a full professor at the University of Toronto. The archeologist had lived with his parents in Yugoslavia growing up as the father was with State Department in Yugoslavia and in 1981 was with State Department in Romania. So both has residency and spoke Serbo-Croatian fluently and the linguist noted the differences in the various dialects (her PhD work was about the Francophone-Anglophone issues in Canada, she is a French Jew born in Mexico city and raised in Quebec,

Yugoslavia was nothing like expected and I am disappointed never to have returned after all these years. We traveled into Yugoslavia from Greece by train and had a car for two weeks. We took a final road trip from Belgrade to Dubrovnik and then up to Split where our "local" friends flew back to Belgrade. We traveled the coast as far as Opatija, Croatia (for Eastern Orthodox Easter) then traveled to Ljubljana, Slovenia. We visited some incredible karst caves in Slovenia and left the car - Zastava 101 - in Ljubljana and went by bus through the Dolomite Alps and into Trieste.

Beautiful part of the world and the people were very friendly. The only other "tourists" we met were there was a tour group of Russians at the hotel where we stayed in Dubrovnik.



I am obviously not a linguist but Slovenian and Russian are on different branches of the Slavic language tree.

[Atman]

73. Kinda like how Georgia/Alabama English is different from New England English.

Same language, but you'd swear we were from different countries if you were a visitor from abroad.

[PufPuf23]

86. Probably a better comparison would be French in France and Spanish in

Mexico; Serbo-Croatian and Slovenian differ far more from Russian than English in different parts of the USA.

My friends could speak Serbo-Croatian fluently and converse readily where we went in Yugoslavia but could not speak with the Russian tourists in Dubrovnik. They did not travel with us to Slovenia but went back to Belgrade.

[progressoid]

23. And he didn't walk three paces ahead of her.

I think someone has been coaching him about how not to look like a selfish douche.

[bettyellen]

27. Also actually buttoned his jacket and I just saw criticism of that...

Am guessing he saw it too.

[FarPoint]

52. He treats her like a toddler....

" Come here to me" body language.... She's not a child...The gesture is not about affection but image control.

[HughBeaumont]

4. Why are these two assholes still in the White House?

Well, technically only ONE is, but still . . . .

[Else You Are Mad]

6. I wonder where in Maryland

Melania will be moving into so she can be closer to Barron's school...

[MineralMan]

7. Maybe The Donald made an unwanted move on her.

Maybe he insisted. That is a good way to piss someone off, I'd think.

"Take your tiny hands off me, Donald!"

[Else You Are Mad]

9. Or...

He has been making unwanted moves on other women throughout the whole trip and she is pissed.

[bdamomma]

63. Yuk who would want him????

[Atman]

24. His hands are so small, he's not even a good pussy grabber.

Can't even think about that shriveled baby carrot hiding behind his tie.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

60. After she so clearly avoided his hand, he patted her on the butt. Doubling down on bad body language

[womanofthehills]

99. He is in bad physical shape plus he takes that hair growth drug (side effect impotence)

No way is he getting it up unless he takes a truckload of Viagra. However, he could be one of those flaccid gropers. Lots of talk that a divorce settlement was prepared but then he "won" the presidency so it was never filed.

God does she look depressed!! I wonder if she will still move to the White House.

[Achilleaze]

8. rebelling against the PiggyParty War on Women?

[L. Coyote]

16. Maybe she's a Louise Mensch's source.

[Jake Stern]

69. Maybe it sounds crazy but

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I wouldn't be a bit surprised if years from now, long after Trump has passed on, that either Melania, Ivanka or Jared comes out or is outed as the source inside the WH.

Look how long it took Mark Felt to publicly admit he was Deep Throat.

[L. Coyote]

77. Fat likelier that she is Trump's handler and was sent to USA to spy.

Recruit attractive women to pose as models in NYC and meet rich men ... just the sort of thing Russia would do. This fits Occam's razor quite well when one considers Trump's history.

[Boomerproud]

10. So the wife has the same reaction to him as we do eh?

The whole WH "staff" doesn't even try to hide anymore-why should she? Does she deserve him-yep.

[nolabear]

11. Can someone sneak a note to her?

Maybe she can ask the Pope for sanctuary.

[democratisphere]

14. LOL! Good idea.

[Doreen]

44. We do have a nice considerate and liberal Pope.

Maybe he would.

[harun]

51. +1

[luvMIdog]

13. yeah well I won't really feel happy about this until there's a video of her kneeing him in the nuts

[livetohike]

15. He's just using her to put up a big front for all the

world leaders to believe he's a family man. She's part of the charade and I don't have one bit of sympathy for her.

[demmiblue]

17. Video tweet:

Link to tweet

Unlike a lot of other people, I feel sorry for her. It is likely that he has emotionally abused her and holds custody of Barron over her head. No woman deserves that.

[Amaryllis]

18. I agree. She probably feels very trapped. If he's like most abusers, she may not have known until

she was in it too far to exit.

[demmiblue]

29. He is very, very manipulative and will exploit any perceived weakness to his benefit, imo.

Plus, he has no moral compass because he just doesn't care... it is all about him (insert the mental health diagnosis here).

The only people he cares about are some of his children, only because he sees them as an extension of himself.

She is a victim. Whether she was/is a willing or unwilling victim is immaterial. She is still a victim.

[Moostache]

42. Moving out of that abominable golden palace in the sky would buy sympathy from me.

Until then, fuck her. She made her deal with the devil and now the rent's due...pay it or get out but don't paint me the picture of the suffering "victim" here. She has options, she just doesn't like the risks involved in executing said options.

[demmiblue]

54. I am guessing that nothing would buy any sympathy from you regarding this issue. n/t

[politicaljunkie41910]

75. I'm with Moostache. It's not like he didn't already of a track record of bad behavior.

Like Moostache said, "She knew what she was getting into, and she was willing to trade her happiness for it. That was the bargain she negotiated with the devil. He wanted eye-candy. She wanted the 3 top floors of Trump Tower. No empathy here. She obviously likes the arrangement, since she even brings her parents with them on trips.

[progressoid]

20. This one might have been just her getting hair out of her face.

Or...might have been her using hair in her face as an excuse to not hold his hand.

[LostinRed]

43. I agree

Looks like coincidence I didn't see a "jerk" but still funny

[womanofthehills]

97. I think she practiced this move - she got too much news coverage for the slap

Definitely not a coincidence to me.

[Ms. Toad]

70. That's my reaction (getting her hair out of her face). n/t

[yardwork]

91. I don't think so. Her hair wasn't in her face. It hadn't moved.

Her hair was not moving and was not in her face. She deliberately moved her hand away as soon as he touched her.

[True Dough]

100. It appears to me

that the hair in her face is mostly on the other side. She seems to react very rapidly as soon as she feels Donny touch her hand.

It think it was evasion.

[JTFrog]

22. And she knows he is scared of stairs, lol.

I don't feel sorry for her, but I am enjoying her public displays against him.

[WheelWalker]

38. That's the first thing came to my mind. Hoping he falls while not wanting credit for pushing him.

[qanda]

68. I'll save my sympathy for all of those affected by her husband's policies

She has a choice to go or stay. Her inability to be principled does not deserve my pity.

[politicaljunkie41910]

72. That was the old, "I got hair in my face" don't touch me move. Good one Melania.

I guess she couldn't do the "Discretely push the hand away so no one notices" move again because then, people, like us, would be talking.

[thecrow]

84. Is he dragging his right leg?

Hmm

[Hekate]

94. Agreed, demmiblue

I'm tired of all the folks here who reflexively despise her solely on the basis of her husband's money. On the whole, all they do is display their personal ignorance of the impact of domestic abuse -- emotional, mental, and physical. We have plenty of evidence that Trump is abusive, and in my experience precious few abusers change or stop.

[Thrill]

19. Yup just saw it. She can't stand that prick

[NCTraveler]

25. He is just trying to use her for help going down the stairs.

He isn't trying to make some nice jesture or be seen holding hands with his wife. He is scared shitless of walking down the stairs without her help. She should add a little Emmitt Smith head fake for fun.

[Moostache]

46. She should pretend to lose her balance and shove him down the stairs...(n/t)

[wishstar]

26. She seems to have an ingrained instinctive reaction

Probably even more prevalent rejection of him after what was revealed during campaign about his inappropriate grabbing of other women

[trueblue2007]

28. She should divorce him RIGHT NOW. The ultimate humiliation for Donald Rump

[JCMach1]

30. I see a women who is pissed because she warned her idiot husband not to get involved with the

Russians. She has had it and knows he's finished.

[montanto]

31. She's a prisoner, of course she's pissed.

[nadine_mn]

32. This is awesome because he is terrified of stairs

Next she will just trip him - hahahaha

[Grammy23]

36. Above all, he does not want to do something that will cause him further humiliation.

He knows how Ford got treated and depicted in the media after his well documented stumbles. So, of course, stairs and steps are fraught with possibilities of a misstep. Plus, at 70 going on 71, his balance issues might be undermining his confidence to navigate the steps without a trip or fall. Now that would be YouTube gold! tRump falling from the top of those steps from AF1 all the way to the tarmac! Kerrr-splat!!

Melania is clearly telegraphing how she really feels about tRump. Remember how we all KNEW that the Obama's had a real relationship and truly loved each other?? Well, Melanie's closely guarded secret is oozing out her pores. She detests tRump, wants nothing to do with him, except maybe his money and the child she had with him. I agree with others who have said she probably is trapped by tRump with threats and manipulation if she leaves him. It doesn't take a psychiatrist to figure out he controls her (or tries to) like he does everyone else...through fear and intimidation.

Maybe she is squirreling away some money and property and one day will walk away. In the meantime, she has provided some much needed comic relief with her rebuffs to his overtures of "affection".

[MrPurple]

40. He did talk about Gerald Ford in the Access Hollywood tape

[oasis]

47. Melania got the idea from the Roger Ailes "accidental" fall and expiration.

"that's my ticket out of this mess".

[Luz]

33. It looks like he grabs her ass at the end of the clip.

[Blanks]

35. It does, doesn't it...

Ever since he put his hands on the orb, he can't keep his hands to himself.

[JCMach1]

37. Rewatched he grabs her ass after rejection

[Vinca]

34. Hand holding costs extra, Don.

[keithbvadu2]

49. No kissing on the lips.

[GoneOffShore]

83. I'm reminded of the scene from Young Frankenstein

?t

[progressoid]

93. I can't imagine even touching elbows with Cheeto.

[PatSeg]

39. For all the times he ignored her in public

and walked ahead of her like she wasn't even there, it is not surprise that she is retaliating. She probably knows that he is reaching for her hand just for the cameras, not out of any affection.

[MrPurple]

41. This could be a hilarious angle to work into SNL sketches

though they'd probably decide that speculating on his personal life was below the belt.

[Doreen]

45. I really think she is mean for not helping him down the stairs.

She needs to make sure he can get down fast to get it over with.......with her foot.

[OldRedneck]

50. She is pissed about the whole President-First Lady stuff

Melania is a gold-digging ho' who -- went she hopped into bed with Trump -- figured she was on Easy Street. She'd marry this old fart, make certain he puts here in the will, fakes delight when he bangs her, have one kid for him, then watch the old guy die after which she would bag up her millions and marry some younger rich guy who treats her right. She didn't realize she was marrying an abusive, philandering, self-centered, ignorant POS.

And now he has forced her into the public eye where she clearly did not and does not want to be.

No wonder she's pissed. It didn't work out too well . . . she'll still inherit a boatload of money but now she'll have to endure the presidency to get it.

[burnbaby]

58. sorry sometimes I just have to laugh

Do you really believe she is upset because she is the FLOTUS?

[GopherGal]

82. Melania's Bargain...

She didn't realize she was marrying an abusive, philandering, self-centered, ignorant POS.

If she didn't realize this before marrying him, she didn't do her due diligence. Yeah, I know many narcissists can turn on the charm when it suits them, but the whole Ivana/Marla thing played out in the press, much to Trump's delight.
No sympathy from me for marrying the loudmouth buffoon.

I agree that it doesn't seem like politics and being first lady is/was ever part of what she signed on for, though.

[titaniumsalute]

57. I'm pretty sure she's pissed if she's in the same time zone as him

[Danascot]

59. He must be furious that his

bought and paid for concubine is going off script. Not just snubbing him but humiliating him and making him a laughingstock for the entire world to see. Watch your back and don't eat anything he hasn't tasted first, Melania.

[bdamomma]

62. He is afraid of stairs

jerk.

[zentrum]

65. Video link possible?

[madaboutharry]

67. See post # 17

[zentrum]

80. THNX.

[Sugar Smack]

74. I actually thought that was quite beautiful.

She was graceful when she did it, as if she has a catalog of ways to avoid touching that spiritual leper. Especially after that whole hands on the glowing orb thing. Maybe it WAS magic. Maybe she's seeing him and herself clearly now & will never let him touch her again.

[liberalmuse]

76. I really don't think she had a choice.

She had to marry him and despises him. If it weren't for her son, and I'm sure Trump's threats to take him away from her, she would probably stay as far away from that man as possible. Imagine that sweaty orange idiot on top of you - there really isn't enough money in the world that would make most people tolerate that.

[Sugar Smack]

81. That hands-on-the-Glowing Orb was probably the last straw.

The look on her face in that photo, to me, said: "I married an idiot".

[Nay]

96. Ahh, Jeezus, Muse, now I won't be able to sleep because of that picture in my

head. UGGGGHHHH.

[BlueJac]

78. Barf all over the place!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG!!

[kerry-is-my-prez]

79. Pissed that she married him.....

It is not worth the billions or millions of dollars. She has snatched her hand away from his a few times a while back.

[TheOther95Percent]

88. As much as this makes me shudder, I bet she caught him cheating.

Trumpykins has never been known for his fidelity and power is supposed to up the attractiveness factor. I should not have eaten before I wrote that. To me, Trump has no redeeming qualities and is not attractive in the least. However, mom always said there's a lid for every pot.

[womanofthehills]

98. If he was your husband, you would want him to cheat - cheat with anybody -just go away

She appears to really hate his guts. He did something mean she will never forgive him for.

[TheOther95Percent]

103. Hmmm. Something She Can Never Forgive?

He did something that hurt their son. That would explain it too. Sadly, I can see Trump being cruel to an 11 year old.

[Warren DeMontague]

89. so much for the "it's only because they were in an ultra-conservative country" excuse

[yardwork]

92. No, no! People are very inhibited in Italy!

[Kablooie]

101. It's Frank and Claire Underwood!

[MFM008]

102. She made her bed

Now she has to look what's in it.

[toddwv]

104. 1st time is a natural sign of her repulsion.

2nd time is a deliberate go screw yourself. She knows exactly what she's doing.