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applegrove

(118,642 posts)
Fri May 26, 2017, 09:24 PM May 2017

The Story of the Phony Lynch Email Grows Bigger

By JOSH MARSHALL at Talking Points Memo

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-story-of-the-phony-lynch-email-grows-bigger

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We’ve just had some highly disturbing, vaguely surreal new information reported by CNN. Two days ago The Washington Post reported that James Comey’s decision not to notify the Department of Justice about his July Clinton emails press conference was driven in part by emails or documents describing emails the FBI had found in troves of Russian-hacked emails which appeared to compromise Attorney General Lynch’s independence. The gist of the Post story was that Comey may have relied on what was in fact an exquisitely successful disinformation operation to make what turned out to be a highly consequential decision affecting the 2016 election.

This new CNN story contains an important twist.

According to sources who talked to CNN, Comey and the FBI knew the document was a fraud but used it anyway, both to make the decision and justify the decision after the fact.

This isn’t necessarily quite as crazy as it sounds. Comey’s apparent reasoning was that if the document was later released in a Russian/Wikileaks document dump, the fact that it was fake wouldn’t necessarily matter. The Bureau wouldn’t necessarily be able to publicly prove it was a phony without disclosing sources and methods, or perhaps not at all. The point being, whether or not the document was real didn’t really matter. Its release would potentially discredit the integrity of the DOJ/FBI decision making either way.


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The Story of the Phony Lynch Email Grows Bigger (Original Post) applegrove May 2017 OP
Yeah, somebody's going to have to give me a bigger sales pitch before I support this one. NBachers May 2017 #1
or it is just Trump admin leaked bullshit to discredit Comey.... Thomas Hurt May 2017 #2
So his agency's sources and methods were more important malaise May 2017 #3
Sorry, but this is spurious reasoning ProudLib72 May 2017 #4
Wow. DURHAM D May 2017 #5
Anonymous sources. Igel May 2017 #7
K&R Gothmog May 2017 #6

NBachers

(17,108 posts)
1. Yeah, somebody's going to have to give me a bigger sales pitch before I support this one.
Fri May 26, 2017, 09:43 PM
May 2017

Deeper Russian involvement? Yes, I have no doubt about that. But the convoluted decision-making process that's outlined here? This seems like too little ass covering, too late for me to completely support it. A little too amateur night at first glance, for me.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
4. Sorry, but this is spurious reasoning
Fri May 26, 2017, 09:52 PM
May 2017

"If" the document were later released by Wikileaks... So Comey decided to head off any possible second guessing of FBI/DOJ's credibility on a hunch that it could possibly maybe happen? What a load of you-know-what. Furthermore, he could have waited a couple of weeks for his big announcement unless he was worried that this hypothetical dump was imminent. He knew the document was fake. He chose to throw the election by making the announcement. He chose the greater of two evils.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
5. Wow.
Fri May 26, 2017, 09:53 PM
May 2017

Can't help but notice that many DUers support Comey's bull shit, think Lynch is dirty, and have decided to help out by pointing a finger at the the Russians.

This place is amazing.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
7. Anonymous sources.
Fri May 26, 2017, 10:19 PM
May 2017

All of them.

And you can't tell if it's really one source echoed through 5 different people or 5 sources each with independent information of the memo and records from the time.

It's like the Trump-Putin leak. There were limited people in the room. The ex-administration folk were deemed reliable, corroborating sources, but they were relaying hearsay. It's likely that there was one source. But after the info spreads, if it's true or not, there are many. With no way to evaluate the sources at all except with a big dollop of "I wanna believe" and a side of "this needs to be true to support my argument."

When it looked like Comey was the victim, he was good. When it looked like he was duped, it had to be Russians, possibly in league with Trump's campaign. Now that there's a claim he knew better, it was a massive manipulation. "Who knew what when?" isn't really the issue, since we want to believe and have an argument to support.

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