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UTUSN

(70,686 posts)
Tue May 30, 2017, 12:08 PM May 2017

Jerry SPRINGER is a Lib/Progressive, in touch, "superb communicator" : Governor/Ohio?

Unless his public persona is a total act, the fellow is humane, egalitarian, and compassionate. His t.v. show is not even an issue ever since RAYGUN broke the no-divorce (poor Adlai) and show biz rules, and then came Ahhhnuld, the guy from The Love Boat, Fred THOMPSON, Al FRANKEN, et al.

He's got what our best Dem candidates have always had (intelligence, devotion to the most good for the most people and to the role of government in service to the public good) - PLUS, what some of our candidates have *lacked* - "comfortable in their own skin" and the common touch.

In contrast, Al FRANKEN was on CBS This Morning (or whatever the name), and despite that I admire him as a top of the line Democrat, he stumbled getting words out and when he got them out the thought was underwhelming.

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http://www.businessinsider.com/jerry-springer-ohio-governor-2018-trump-2017-5
[font size=5]Democrats are pushing an unlikely source — Jerry Springer — to run for governor in Ohio[/font]

.... "I think he has a very strong ability to communicate what I think is the heart of the Democratic message," Strickland said, pointing to speeches Springer delivered to delegations at the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia last summer. "I think he is a superb communicator." ....

If he were to enter the race, he'd have stiff primary competition.

Schiavoni, Pillich, Whaley, and former US Rep. Betty Sutton have already declared their candidacies. Several other prominent contenders are viewed still as possibilities to jump into the race, including Richard Cordray, the director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Strickland compared the lengthy list of declared and possible candidates, all of whom are or would be seeking to succeed term-limited Republican Gov. John Kasich, to the 2016 Republican presidential primary field. ....

Speaking with The Cincinnati Enquirer in February, Springer, who painted himself as a "populist, liberal progressive," ... ....

"That ought to be the constituency of the Democratic Party," he said. "Trump has misled these people. They're not helped by deregulation. They're not helped by getting rid of healthcare. These people are being duped." ....

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Wounded Bear

(58,648 posts)
1. My, my, don't we live in interesting times...
Tue May 30, 2017, 12:12 PM
May 2017
http://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/12/18/live/

"Dear Quote Investigator: The most fascinating periods in history were filled with tumult and upheaval. Tales of treachery, wars, and chaos provide compelling reading, but the participants who were living through the momentous changes were probably experiencing trepidation, hunger, and pain. Here are three versions of a saying that has commonly been described as a Chinese curse:

May you live in interesting times.
May you live in an interesting age.
May you live in exciting times.
I asked a Chinese friend about this expression, and she said that she had never heard it before. Would you please explore its provenance?

Quote Investigator: Fred R. Shapiro who is the editor of “The Yale Book of Quotations” has noted that: “No authentic Chinese saying to this effect has ever been found”. 1 In addition, Ralph Keyes stated in “The Quote Verifier” that nobody has ever been able to confirm the Chinese origin claim."

MichMan

(11,915 posts)
2. It worked so well when he was on city council of Cincy
Tue May 30, 2017, 12:13 PM
May 2017

Last edited Tue May 30, 2017, 12:44 PM - Edit history (1)

Wrote a prostitute a bad check ( it was a long time ago)

Beakybird

(3,333 posts)
3. Sorry. No way.
Tue May 30, 2017, 12:16 PM
May 2017

Springer is a great speaker. Springer is great on the issues.

On the other hand, Springer is toxic. His show is sooooo depraved. It appeals to the lowest of the low. Putting on this show demonstrates bad character, IMO.

He couldn't win any major office.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
5. I Agree
Tue May 30, 2017, 12:43 PM
May 2017

When you see him in interviews, etc., he is intelligent, articulate, and knowledgeable.

Unfortunately, his name is synonymous with TV that is toxic, depraved, and lowest of the low. He is best known for the modern version of a freak show. Only rethugs can get away with that.

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
4. It's hilarious how just 5 years ago it was decided his show made him politically unviabl
Tue May 30, 2017, 12:20 PM
May 2017

Now it seems like it is his qualifying factor.

He was mayor of Cleveland,right? He is a quality candidate, regardless of how it is spun.

FSogol

(45,481 posts)
6. Unrec. Just because the GOP decides they like carnival barkers, celebs, and reality star morons
Tue May 30, 2017, 12:46 PM
May 2017

for public office, doesn't mean we need to follow their path.

UTUSN

(70,686 posts)
8. To the posts referring to his scandal yrs ago, his lowbrow show, & "we don't have to follow suit":
Tue May 30, 2017, 03:01 PM
May 2017

I have long disagreed with the we're-better-than-them belief. We are all a mixture of every high and low word and deed. As for his scandal, there have been plenty of those among tons of professional politicians, and it will always be so. I haven't heard that SPRINGER has done anything like it again, and he talks about his regrets over it. As for his show, he's the first to mock it.

But about the "we don't have to follow suit" argument: That's a false equivalency. Just because he is a show biz professional and possesses the verbal and interactional skill set that goes with it, his political principles are a separate topic and are what takes him out of the classification of carnival barkers and such.

I forgot to put George CLOONEY in the list. Would he be more high toned enough?

Anyway, my real point is the part about being-comfortable-in-one's-own-skin, communication skills, and the common touch - things that MONDALE, GORE, and DUKAKIS lacked while otherwise being smarter, idealistic, noble, public servant specimens - than their horrible rivals who won.

Were FDR, HST, yes-LBJ, WJC, and BO carnival barkers? No. They possessed the same skin-comfort, communication, and common touch that carnival barkers and showbiz types might have.

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