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Urinating dog joins Wall Street statue row (Original Post) GeoWilliam750 May 2017 OP
Ridiculous Lotusflower70 May 2017 #1
Just some jackass looking for attention. C_U_L8R May 2017 #2
Ha! Worktodo May 2017 #3
Coming from an artist's point of view, "Fearless Girl", a piece commissioned by a marketing... brush May 2017 #4
Ironic that an artist who illegally placed his bull csziggy May 2017 #5
We disagreed. Not an artist, right? brush May 2017 #6
Only an amateur artist. csziggy May 2017 #7

Lotusflower70

(3,077 posts)
1. Ridiculous
Tue May 30, 2017, 06:03 PM
May 2017

It was petty. On Facebook and Twitter it was known as the pissing pug. Unbelievable the whining by the artist. I read that it was removed.

Worktodo

(288 posts)
3. Ha!
Tue May 30, 2017, 06:40 PM
May 2017

It's just great to have people talking about art, in a meaningful way, and art as a public object (which seems to happen so rarely).

Here the artist says he was trying to make a negative statement about fearless girl -- but in that case I think he should have placed his pig next to the bull.

By putting it next to fearless girl it seems to me he invites a completely different interpretation-- that "pigs" (chauvinist? capitalist?) will downplay the efforts of women.

brush

(53,776 posts)
4. Coming from an artist's point of view, "Fearless Girl", a piece commissioned by a marketing...
Tue May 30, 2017, 09:38 PM
May 2017

company, infringed upon and changed the meaning of "Charging Bull" and is a total lack of respect shown from one artist to another.

Guess the money the marketing company paid was too tempting to turn down for the sculptor or the "Fearless Girl" piece.

It's the art world's equivalent of Kanye West's, "Imma let you finish" infringement upon Taylor Swift's Grammy moment.

It was commissioned to bring attention to the marketers campaign, not to make a statement on it's own merits but barrows from the "Charging Bull's" statement and space.

If it was a legitimate feminist statement the artist could have easily found the piece's own place instead of infringing upon another artist's work.

So now the "Fearless Girl" sculptor knows how it feels.



csziggy

(34,136 posts)
5. Ironic that an artist who illegally placed his bull
Tue May 30, 2017, 09:55 PM
May 2017

With no permits for the original placement is whining about a statue that was fully permitted and legally place.

The Charging Bull was removed from it's original placement then due to public pressure, it was given a limited permit and placed in a different location. The permit for the Bull statue has long since expired but it remains in place. If it was a legitimate statement the artist could have easily found the piece's own place instead of illegally placing it on public property. The only reason the Charging Bull is still there is that no one has ever wanted to pay the artist's fee for it.

The Fearless Girl was placed with permission of the city, who owns the location. The limited permit was extend by demand from the public. She will only be there a year unless public pressure forces an unlimited placement, the same as for the Charging Bull.

The implication of the Fearless Girl facing up to the Charging Bull is much more respectful to the older statue than a dog pissing on a child. The perversity of the newest blob of material (it is an incredibly crude piece of work any way it is viewed) says more about the limitation of the person who made it than anything else.

The next step in this pissing contest should be the emasculation of the bull.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
7. Only an amateur artist.
Tue May 30, 2017, 10:01 PM
May 2017

And at ten I made more realistic animals than the thing I see in the photos of the pisser's dog.

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