Wed May 31, 2017, 02:03 PM
HAB911 (8,172 posts)
"collusion is not a crime"??
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10 replies, 5092 views
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HAB911 | May 2017 | OP |
Johnny2X2X | May 2017 | #1 | |
marylandblue | May 2017 | #2 | |
get the red out | May 2017 | #3 | |
mchill | May 2017 | #4 | |
ProfessorGAC | May 2017 | #5 | |
Kablooie | May 2017 | #6 | |
sharp_stick | May 2017 | #7 | |
Cicada | May 2017 | #8 | |
DemocratSinceBirth | May 2017 | #9 | |
onethatcares | May 2017 | #10 |
Response to HAB911 (Original post)
Wed May 31, 2017, 02:06 PM
Johnny2X2X (15,490 posts)
1. Knew this was coming
As soon as Trump said there was "no collusion", I knew they'd eventually say nothing was wrong with collusion.
They colluded with a foreign government to steal the US Presidency. And it's not like this foreign country was Canada, it is Russia, who is our adversary. |
Response to HAB911 (Original post)
Wed May 31, 2017, 02:07 PM
marylandblue (12,344 posts)
2. Well sure, they were just colluding on a surprise party for Donald
Response to HAB911 (Original post)
Wed May 31, 2017, 02:10 PM
get the red out (13,436 posts)
3. Nothing that sticks it to godless liberals
is a crime. That is absolutely their belief.
If the Trumpers are ever capable of believing there was collusion, they will applaud it as patriotic for "saving the country". |
Response to HAB911 (Original post)
Wed May 31, 2017, 02:10 PM
mchill (911 posts)
4. I have heard someone in Intelligence say
"collusion" is not a crime, but "coordination" is, so may be a matter of semantics and Fox is trading on that technicality.
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Response to HAB911 (Original post)
Wed May 31, 2017, 02:12 PM
ProfessorGAC (56,837 posts)
5. It Can Be
Fomenting a conspiracy through collusion can violate RICO. Two mafia dons collude to take over a third don's rackets. They've already broken the law, but haven't done anything but collude.
So, they're wrong. |
Response to HAB911 (Original post)
Wed May 31, 2017, 02:12 PM
Kablooie (18,028 posts)
6. The argument is that there is no statute covering collusion,
Unless we are in a state of war.
But the RICO laws probably have something to cover this |
Response to HAB911 (Original post)
Wed May 31, 2017, 02:19 PM
sharp_stick (14,400 posts)
7. I saw that trial balloon
It makes me think that the administration is really getting worried that something is going to stick.
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Response to HAB911 (Original post)
Wed May 31, 2017, 02:42 PM
Cicada (4,533 posts)
8. Collusion to break a law is a separate crime
If a trumpeter colluded in illegal hacking or in securing illegal political contributions or in illegally revealing private information then that collusion is the crime of criminal conspiracy. But colluding in getting Trump elected in legal ways is not a crime.
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Response to HAB911 (Original post)
Wed May 31, 2017, 02:44 PM
DemocratSinceBirth (98,647 posts)
9. He might be technically correct.
But subornation of perjury, perjury, and obstruction of justice are crimes and one can be guilty of all those even if the underlying act was legal. A great example is Clinton's consensual blow job. It was legal. The cover up is what created legal exposure for him and Monica Lewinsky. Also, if there is evidence of collusion that's an impeachable offense. |
Response to HAB911 (Original post)
Wed May 31, 2017, 03:25 PM
onethatcares (15,332 posts)
10. technically correct,
and of course, Faux news would be the first to say that if Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Barrack Obama or anyone else on the Democratic side of the aisle had talks with the Russians and wanted to secure a private back channel to their leaders.
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