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babylonsister

(171,065 posts)
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 07:44 AM Jun 2017

White House orders agencies to ignore Democrats oversight requests





White House orders agencies to ignore Democrats’ oversight requests

Trump’s aides are trying to shut down the release of information that could be used to attack the president.

By Burgess Everett and Josh Dawsey

06/02/2017 05:11 AM EDT


The White House is telling federal agencies to blow off Democratic lawmakers' oversight requests, as Republicans fear the information could be weaponized against President Donald Trump.

At meetings with top officials for various government departments this spring, Uttam Dhillon, a White House lawyer, told agencies not to cooperate with such requests from Democrats, according to Republican sources inside and outside the administration.

It appears to be a formalization of a practice that had already taken hold, as Democrats have complained that their oversight letters requesting information from agencies have gone unanswered since January, and the Trump administration has not yet explained the rationale.

The declaration amounts to a new level of partisanship in Washington, where the president and his administration already feels besieged by media reports and attacks from Democrats. The idea, Republicans said, is to choke off the Democratic congressional minorities from gaining new information that could be used to attack the president.

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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/02/federal-agencies-oversight-requests-democrats-white-house-239034
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White House orders agencies to ignore Democrats oversight requests (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2017 OP
Time for Democrats to walk. Zoonart Jun 2017 #1
The country is clearly under assault and many Americans still don't get it. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2017 #2
And many Americans do get it. Nitram Jun 2017 #12
I surely hope they all vote and we have enough! What happens with the investigations will make, of RKP5637 Jun 2017 #29
Some writers at POLITICO don't get it. pangaia Jun 2017 #15
It's still treated far too lightly! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2017 #30
Maybe, RKP, but some of us choose to laugh rather than cry. Nitram Jun 2017 #40
This administration is so globally hated by most, I think they will bring themselves down. The RKP5637 Jun 2017 #43
Many right here on this board don't get it workinclasszero Jun 2017 #50
It is, it is a coup. I'm at a loss to get why many don't get it, across the nation. Probably because RKP5637 Jun 2017 #51
The attempted coup has not succeeded, workin. Nitram Jun 2017 #53
I hope you are right but I have my doubts workinclasszero Jun 2017 #54
Time for Democrats to take this illegal directive to court meow2u3 Jun 2017 #5
Actually, there's nothing particularly illegal about it onenote Jun 2017 #46
Walk where? onenote Jun 2017 #37
It may be time for leftynyc Jun 2017 #3
Exactamundo benfranklin1776 Jun 2017 #6
THIS!.. Oh yes, SO this! annabanana Jun 2017 #17
EVERY SINGLE DAY leftynyc Jun 2017 #22
Expose his TAXES Scarsdale Jun 2017 #28
I'm hoping Mueller leftynyc Jun 2017 #31
fanfuckingtastic BobTheSubgenius Jun 2017 #4
The word you want is "dictatorship." Or perhaps, because Trump is vengeful, "tyranny." Kathy WinkyDink Jun 2017 #7
Totalitarianism... Wounded Bear Jun 2017 #21
Don't forget not fooled Jun 2017 #36
America is officially no longer a country of democratic values and laws. We are sinkingfeeling Jun 2017 #8
no, sinking, we are still a countrry of democratic laws and values. The president and his Nitram Jun 2017 #13
The ship is sinking!!!!! The ship is sinking!!!!! heaven05 Jun 2017 #25
The band ain't playing "Nearer my God to Thee" yet. Nitram Jun 2017 #39
ha ha ha!! It's coming though heaven05 Jun 2017 #47
More obstruction of justice. George II Jun 2017 #9
This is action parallel to obstruction of justice. TryLogic Jun 2017 #10
Something has got to give Catherine Vincent Jun 2017 #11
It wouldn't occur to a Dem President Marthe48 Jun 2017 #24
That tactic worked for they lying criminal Bush administration FoxNewsSucks Jun 2017 #14
Rove still looks Scarsdale Jun 2017 #32
If he wasn't a complete and total trainwreck, there'd be annabanana Jun 2017 #16
This seems like Bannon pure and simple Justice Jun 2017 #18
That seems illegal. If they have oversight by law, it's illegal not to comply. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2017 #19
Like trump gives a rat's ass. nt El Mimbreno Jun 2017 #26
Our checks and balances system isn't working. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2017 #35
The Committee has oversight, not individual members onenote Jun 2017 #38
I see. Thanks. Sounds like he's controlling the Repubs on that committee. Figures. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2017 #48
Maybe. Or maybe they're just sheeple who prefer not to ask too many questions. onenote Jun 2017 #49
Another Obstruction of an Investigation Charge bresue Jun 2017 #20
One sure way to fix this situation angrychair Jun 2017 #23
"according to Russian sources inside and outside the administration" Renew Deal Jun 2017 #27
Blatant stonewalling bucolic_frolic Jun 2017 #33
Key phrase: "a new level of partisanship in Washington" Grins Jun 2017 #34
Did he let the cat out of the bag on this? Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2017 #42
He can't do this? Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2017 #41
Did we see headlines like this during Obama's Presidency? Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2017 #44
yup MichaelSoE Jun 2017 #45
Lawsuits to follow all Trump's illegal actions. The court will order compliance. L. Coyote Jun 2017 #52

Zoonart

(11,863 posts)
1. Time for Democrats to walk.
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 07:55 AM
Jun 2017

This is not just blowing off requests. This is a full blown shut down of our democratic system of checks and balances.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
29. I surely hope they all vote and we have enough! What happens with the investigations will make, of
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 10:29 AM
Jun 2017

course, a huge difference. I hope they all get nailed!

Nitram

(22,800 posts)
40. Maybe, RKP, but some of us choose to laugh rather than cry.
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 01:51 PM
Jun 2017

Our response will be much more effective if we keep things in perspective and avoid running around like Chicken Little with his head cut off.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
43. This administration is so globally hated by most, I think they will bring themselves down. The
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 01:56 PM
Jun 2017

investigations will be a major turning point, of course.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
50. Many right here on this board don't get it
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 05:35 PM
Jun 2017

We are the victims of a right wing coup carried out by Vladimir Putin, his handpicked puppet Trump and the traitorous republican party.

Their aim is to weaken America so much we will not be a player on the world stage anymore, much less a leader.

Trump is weakening the whole western alliance of free democratic countries for his employer/bankroll Putin.

Already Putin is threatening Sweden and Trump his faithful lapdog says nothing.

Putin Vows Military Response to 'Eliminate NATO Threat' If Sweden Joins U.S.-Led Alliance
By Damien Sharkov On 6/2/17 at 5:25 AM
http://www.newsweek.com/vladimir-putin-vows-eliminate-nato-threat-sweden-joins-619486

The USA is going to pay one hell of a price for allowing these traitors to infiltrate and compromise our government.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
51. It is, it is a coup. I'm at a loss to get why many don't get it, across the nation. Probably because
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 05:56 PM
Jun 2017

the US has never experienced anything like this and the psyops employed. Most likely think of an invasion as requiring military action. It can be quite covertly done. We've seen it happening, yet many are in denial. Far too many think of the "new" GOP as being like the "Eisenhower" GOP. Americans need to really wake up, but I have my doubts.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
54. I hope you are right but I have my doubts
Sat Jun 3, 2017, 03:29 PM
Jun 2017

2018 is the only chance we have to stop Putins coup. I hope the American people are up for it.

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
5. Time for Democrats to take this illegal directive to court
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 08:38 AM
Jun 2017

The White House knows that what they're doing is patently illegal. Maybe a Federal judge will nullify such antidemocratic bullshit from this regime.

onenote

(42,701 posts)
46. Actually, there's nothing particularly illegal about it
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 03:20 PM
Jun 2017

Executive branch agencies are under no legal obligation to respond to correspondence/calls, etc. from members of Congress of either party. They do so as a matter of courtesy and because the party that is in the minority today may be in the majority tomorrow. And the party in the majority controls oversight committees and oversight committees (not individual members) have tools at their disposal to get information from agencies.

But there's nothing illegal about an agency ignoring a member of Congress or even deciding to ignore all members from one party. Typically they wouldn't do that because they can't predict whether that member of Congress might be in the majority someday.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
3. It may be time for
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 08:08 AM
Jun 2017

a BIG AND SHOWY press conference. Include every single request made, the reasons for the request and demands that they get the information AND ask - day after day after day after day - WHAT ARE THEY HIDING?

benfranklin1776

(6,445 posts)
6. Exactamundo
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 08:39 AM
Jun 2017

Hang it around their head like the dead albatross of constitutional democracy that it is. Scream it from the rooftops at every opportunity and never let people forget, as otherwise it will get buried in the morass of mind numbing diversionary nonsense people are inundated with every day.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
17. THIS!.. Oh yes, SO this!
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 09:46 AM
Jun 2017

What are they hiding? We can turn their stonewalling into their biggest liability.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
31. I'm hoping Mueller
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 10:31 AM
Jun 2017

subpoenas them. They will certainly tell the tale. He owes hundreds of millions to russian banks and that's why putin can yank his testicles any time he likes.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
4. fanfuckingtastic
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 08:33 AM
Jun 2017

A government that strongly believes that what they're doing is right wouldn't act this way. This is the MO of a government (for the sake of argument, we'll call them that) that feels that the only way it can survive is if it works in secret.

Or, survive long enough to finish setting the charges, lighting the fuses. then getting outta Dodge. Clearly, the longer this paradigm can last for them, the better, but I really don't believe they have a long game in mind. It's not the protection racket it might seem, it's smash-and-grab.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
7. The word you want is "dictatorship." Or perhaps, because Trump is vengeful, "tyranny." Kathy
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 08:48 AM
Jun 2017

Griffin was wrong, but she was also right.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
36. Don't forget
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 01:10 PM
Jun 2017

President Bannon's goal of wrecking the Federal government. Hence, imposing saboteurs and incompetents as executive appointments in these agencies, hacking budgets, and otherwise attempting to destroy many agencies and their work.

This admin realizes that there is fertile ground for complaints from career Federal officials who don't appreciate seeing their agencies burned down and their life's work shat upon. Hence, just muzzle anyone who could speak out, and block the Democrats from attempting to find out what's really going on.

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)
8. America is officially no longer a country of democratic values and laws. We are
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 08:50 AM
Jun 2017

rapidly approaching a toltarian dictatorship.

Nitram

(22,800 posts)
13. no, sinking, we are still a countrry of democratic laws and values. The president and his
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 09:13 AM
Jun 2017

administration are trying to undo that, but the system has blocked many of their attempts. We have not, as a country, lost this fight yet. Don't discount us so easily.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
25. The ship is sinking!!!!! The ship is sinking!!!!!
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 10:19 AM
Jun 2017

oh chill, biggest and most modern ship afloat, guaranteed to never sink.....the Titanic will float on, FULL STEAM AHEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Our only hope at this time is 2018 elections and people demonstrating NOW!!!! I'll get my cane out and get a goddamn wheeled walker if I have to but I'm ready now!!!!!!!! The damage a RW Congress and their lap dog potus and his administration can do is horrendous to think about.

Hope is good, yet.................

Catherine Vincent

(34,489 posts)
11. Something has got to give
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 09:00 AM
Jun 2017

This is another example of republicans getting away whatever they want but if it was a Democratic WH, they wouldn't be able to even think about it.

Marthe48

(16,951 posts)
24. It wouldn't occur to a Dem President
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 10:18 AM
Jun 2017

IMPEACH trump, try his henchmen-they are all traitors to America. ALL of them

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
14. That tactic worked for they lying criminal Bush administration
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 09:18 AM
Jun 2017

Kkkarl Rove ignored subpoenas and walked into a nice job on TV.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
32. Rove still looks
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 10:32 AM
Jun 2017

like an overstuffed PIG. He lost all credibility, except with Faux. I wonder what happened to Gannon, the male prostitute who used to spend nights at Dubya's WH??

onenote

(42,701 posts)
38. The Committee has oversight, not individual members
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 01:46 PM
Jun 2017

If the Committee, which of course has a repub majority, asks for something, it has certain tools at its disposal to force compliance. But whether an agency responds to an individual member, even one who is on the committee with oversight as to the agency, is up to the agency.

bresue

(1,007 posts)
20. Another Obstruction of an Investigation Charge
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 09:49 AM
Jun 2017

Dump keeps adding them up. I guess he realizes he is already caught, why not add more?

Renew Deal

(81,858 posts)
27. "according to Russian sources inside and outside the administration"
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 10:26 AM
Jun 2017

That's the way I read it the first time.

Grins

(7,217 posts)
34. Key phrase: "a new level of partisanship in Washington"
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 10:46 AM
Jun 2017

It should have read, "a new level of partisanship in the GOP", but I can live it.

And this, the day after the Great Orange Menace™ said, out-of-nowhere, during his remarks yesterday:

"Our TAX BILL is moving along in Congress and I believe it's doing very well. I think a lot of people will be very pleasantly surprised. <You got that one right.> The Republicans are working very, very hard. WE'D LOVE TO HAVE SUPPORT FROM THE DEMOCRATS, but we may have to GO IT ALONE, but it's going very well."

Bipartisan!!! "Reachin' across the aisle!

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
44. Did we see headlines like this during Obama's Presidency?
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 01:56 PM
Jun 2017

I guess it's just "partisanship" when Democrats are trying to get records but not when Republicans have been doing the same damn thing when Democrats are in the WH? With one key difference, of course, being that Democrats give out the information.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
52. Lawsuits to follow all Trump's illegal actions. The court will order compliance.
Fri Jun 2, 2017, 11:42 PM
Jun 2017

Sorry trumpster, you are not a dictator.

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