Newt Gingrich, says that Estonia is in the suburbs of St. Petersburg,

[pangaia]

From the one and only Charlie the Sauerkraut Hammer.......
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TO DIE FOR ESTONIA
By Charles Krauthammer Opinion writer June 1 at 7:30 PM

"One of Trump’s top outside advisers, Newt Gingrich, says that “Estonia is in the suburbs of St. Petersburg,” as if Russian designs on the Baltic states are not at all unreasonable."


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"Leaders therefore do everything they can to bolster it(deterrence). Install tripwires, for example. During the Cold War, we stationed troops in Germany to face the massive tank armies of Soviet Russia. Today we have 28,000 troops in South Korea, 12,000 near the demilitarized zone.

Why? Not to repel invasion. They couldn’t. They’re not strong enough. To put it very coldly, they’re there to die. They’re a deliberate message to the enemy that if you invade our ally, you will have to kill a lot of Americans first. Which will galvanize us into full-scale war against you.

His omission was all the more damaging because of his personal history. This is a man chronically disdainful of NATO. He campaigned on its obsolescence. His inaugural address denounced American allies as cunning parasites living off American wealth and generosity. One of Trump’s top outside advisers, Newt Gingrich, says that “Estonia is in the suburbs of St. Petersburg,” as if Russian designs on the Baltic states are not at all unreasonable.

Moreover, Trump devoted much of his Brussels speech, the highlight of his first presidential trip to NATO, to berating the allies for not paying their fair share. Nothing particularly wrong with that, or new — half a century ago Senate Majority Leader Mike Mansfield was so offended by NATO free riding that he called for major reductions of U.S. troops in Europe."



https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/to-die-for-estonia/2017/06/01/465619a6-46f1-11e7-a196-a1bb629f64cb_story.html?utm_term=.9d17755f5422

[elehhhhna]

1. And Mexico is a suburb of Brownsville

[pangaia]

6. I have a few friends in Estonia..classical musicians.....

and one of the world's great conductors is Estonian, as is his father..

I'm really worried for them....

[FM123]

2. I thought NewtGingrich was in the Suburbs of Hypocrisyville...

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. Nope, he's right downtown.

[Solly Mack]

4. And NG is considered an intelligent republican. By other republicans, that is.

[pangaia]

5. Do you think so? Or do they just humor him, shrug and roll their eyes?

No, I fear you are probably right...

[Solly Mack]

7. Some might indulge him, but most seem to think he's smart.

He can be clever at manipulating people but his end goals are never the intelligent choice for people.

I tend to think people not so intelligent when their words/actions, no matter how cleverly worded or done, cause more harm than good.

I'm sure they pat themselves on the back though.

[ornotna]

8. He don't know shit

Kenneth City is in the suburbs of St Petersburg but not Estonia. Idiot.

[pangaia]

9. That's crazy.

I've been to St Petersberg many times. There ain't no Kenneth City within 5,200 miles!

[ornotna]

12. So have I

It's right there.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_City,_Florida

[pangaia]

13. St Petersburg, Russia was the city in question.. 5295 miles, to be exact...

[ornotna]

14. Yeah, I knew that

[pangaia]

15. Duh.. 1 too many margaritas

[ornotna]

16. No problem

Bourbon and lime seltzer water for me. Yeah, I'm weird.

[onethatcares]

22. along with

Pinellas Park.

These people don't own a real map.

[ProudLib72]

10. Washington DC is a suburb of NY

and falls under the purview of AG Schneiderman.

[pangaia]

11. Heh,heh,heh.. He's my guy..

[mnhtnbb]

17. Older residents of Estonia remember what it was like under Soviet occupation

"Estonians over the age of 25 remember well that their country was actually ruled by Moscow during 50 years of occupation by the Soviet Union. It all ended in 1990"


An interesting interview with President Kersti Kaljulaid of Estonia.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/russia-is-a-threat-estonia-frets-about-its-neighbor/2017/03/24/011ad320-0f2b-11e7-9b0d-d27c98455440_story.html

[winstars]

21. I have been to the capital, Tallinn. They like their freedom and there will be blood in the streets

if Russia decided to come back...

[mnhtnbb]

23. Yes, we were in Tallinn in 2014 and heard from the tour guide how much

they have NO desire to be under Russian rule ever again.

I agree. They will fight.

[pangaia]

24. I have never been to Tallinn, but St Petersberg many times. beautiful city.

Knowing several Estonian musicians, as I mentioned, you are absolutely right.
Another of my acquaintances , a Finnish conductor, frequently takes the ALLEGRO between Helsinki and SP, and the ferry to Tallinn. He is not in a good mood about all this...But he also is very aware of American 'Imperialism,' much more so than a vast majority of Americans, so we have interesting discussions..


Same for Latvians. Nervous.....One of the greatest chamber orchestras in the world is directed by a Latvian violinist and its members are mostly from the Baltic region.

I worry for all of them and their families...

[Vinca]

18. And Newt's supposed to be the smart one.

[oberliner]

19. What is Newt's angle here?

He is not generally as huge of a lunatic as he has appeared to be lately, from going full on with the Seth Rich stuff to this.

Also, St. Petersburg is about 100 miles away from the border with Estonia (The border with Finland is about the same distance away - maybe they should be worried too).

[pangaia]

25. I have always thought he is a total lunatic.

See my reply #24 above to WINSTARS...

The Finns ARE worried....at least the few whom I know..
The last time the Russians invaded Finland it did not go well, at least in the beginning.

Of course, they then went back home and got reinforcements.. something like a couple million, and came back.and that was that.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

20. Why is this rancid porcine fuck still around? nt