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Dear Liberals & Independents: (Original Post) kpete Jun 2017 OP
Knr joeybee12 Jun 2017 #1
I've been... Mike Nelson Jun 2017 #2
I know this view is popular in here... HopeAgain Jun 2017 #3
There are those on the fringes who seek simply to disrupt ehrnst Jun 2017 #7
Yep that's what we all need to do now HopeAgain Jun 2017 #8
Planned, organized action is what is called for. ehrnst Jun 2017 #12
This Comatose Sphagetti Jun 2017 #10
On the faux left (no true leftist or progressive would enable Trump's election). They keep Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #11
K&R mcar Jun 2017 #4
If Only.... Chasstev365 Jun 2017 #5
All of that "certainty" that there are "pure" candidates. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #6
unfortunate that we got stuck with trump because of the above not being heeded beachbum bob Jun 2017 #9

Mike Nelson

(9,953 posts)
2. I've been...
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:43 AM
Jun 2017

...posting repeatedly that people should stop wondering who is too old or too young to run in 2020. It's too early to determine the mood of primary and general election voters...

BUT, as far as this issue is concerned, you can't start too soon.



HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
3. I know this view is popular in here...
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:44 AM
Jun 2017

But why is no one pointing their fingers at the millions who don't vote, who just can't be bothered to stay informed and simply take their liberties for granted?

There will always be people on the fringes who serve a purpose... On the left, they keep pushing towards opening minds and asking important questions. The real threat to this country and to democracy worldwide is ignorant dead wood who fail to participate.

I have not seen a single post about them.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
7. There are those on the fringes who seek simply to disrupt
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 08:51 AM
Jun 2017

Because disruption is easier that the hard, slow work of positive, long lasting change.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
8. Yep that's what we all need to do now
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:00 AM
Jun 2017

because disruption is the only way we can slow the RW agenda.

It's all relative, but you missed my point entirely.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
12. Planned, organized action is what is called for.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 02:27 PM
Jun 2017

One can throw a brick through a window to disrupt.

Disruption can be a consequence of a goal, but should not simply be the goal itself.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
11. On the faux left (no true leftist or progressive would enable Trump's election). They keep
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:19 AM
Jun 2017

'opening' minds by criticizing Democrats and driving voters away from the Democratic Party thus electing Republicans...there..fixed it.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
9. unfortunate that we got stuck with trump because of the above not being heeded
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 09:01 AM
Jun 2017

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