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For the Louise Mensch True Believers (Original Post) Charlotte Little Jun 2017 OP
Sealed indcitments, arrests soon, maybe tomorrow brettdale Jun 2017 #1
Also Devin Nunes had his top secret security clearance revoked, The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #3
Interesting programing tonight. SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2017 #2
And NYT had a big story on Russian bank linked to Kushner sharedvalues Jun 2017 #4
I did not know that good on 60 Min plus they guaranteed the oh ICK Putin /Kelly channel changers lunasun Jun 2017 #34
Good episode of On the Media yesterday about... LAS14 Jun 2017 #5
You mean the Republican party that is in control of everything at all levels, how is that destroyed? krawhitham Jun 2017 #46
Louise Mensch is not a RELIGION. She's a citizen journalist underthematrix Jun 2017 #6
Except that many of her "facts" turn out not to be factual at all. onenote Jun 2017 #7
Well, FITZMAS never came, either but it gave people hope as well. MADem Jun 2017 #9
You left out a word. Fitzmas gave people "false" hope. onenote Jun 2017 #10
Bush got tamped down here and there. MADem Jun 2017 #14
Whether people read her or not is their business onenote Jun 2017 #18
We'll see. The wheels of the gods grind slowly, and all. nt MADem Jun 2017 #24
Well maybe I'm better at differentiating facts from opinions underthematrix Jun 2017 #12
This is a fair point. nt MADem Jun 2017 #8
lol she is employed by Rupert Murdoch. grantcart Jun 2017 #17
Louise Mensch has not been working at News Corp's Heat Street since last December womanofthehills Jun 2017 #29
Yes with you! -I support Louise Mensch efforts to expose the truth about Russia's overthrow of USG Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #38
She's neither a citizen (of the US) nor a journalist FBaggins Jun 2017 #48
By playing this video you agree to Twitter's use of cookies L. Coyote Jun 2017 #11
But they are oatmeal cookies, who doesn't like those! snooper2 Jun 2017 #22
Wow you settled. I got white chocolate chip macadamia nut cookies... Wounded Bear Jun 2017 #27
Did she really claim BLM and Bernie were Russian agents? BainsBane Jun 2017 #13
No, she thought that some BLM protests had infiltrators that wanted to give them bad coverage Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #39
Here's some more of the wit and wisdom of LM melman Jun 2017 #15
And here is some of what she had to say when Milo Y was banned from twitter melman Jun 2017 #16
Thank you. I've been saying this all along. Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2017 #19
She hates Trump with a passion - hates Putin too womanofthehills Jun 2017 #30
And when she's been wrong it's b/c she drew faulty conclusions from too few facts. Demit Jun 2017 #36
She has been right once. Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2017 #47
She's reversed her view on Milo. MADem Jun 2017 #25
You know, if the emoprog left spent a tenth of the time attacking Trump Blue_Tires Jun 2017 #20
Indeed. It's a data point is all. Blue_Adept Jun 2017 #21
LOL--Enquirer broke two stories I'll never forget.... MADem Jun 2017 #28
The National Enquirer comparison is definitely my personal approach. Kleveland Jun 2017 #33
This. MADem Jun 2017 #26
Yes, they don't seem as concerned about DT as they are about whether we follow LM or not Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #42
She thinks Bernie is a Russian agent? ROFL m-lekktor Jun 2017 #23
She found it curious when he put down Ossoff in Georgia for not being blah blah blah Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #43
yeah, that is a sure sign!! m-lekktor Jun 2017 #44
Hahaha! You think only one baffling comment. Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #45
Get a fucking clue, people. Russia interfered with our elections and had contact.... NCTraveler Jun 2017 #31
Yep! This people very interested in taking down LM as in the video- very "concerned" am sure Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #40
You can't blame her.. disillusioned73 Jun 2017 #32
Exactly! Scurrilous Jun 2017 #37
If what she claims comes to pass, then it will turn out that she was quoting reliable sources. DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #35
LOL! Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #41

brettdale

(12,380 posts)
1. Sealed indcitments, arrests soon, maybe tomorrow
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:05 PM
Jun 2017

That was from what, three weeks ago/four weeks??

Has she spoke more of the upcoming arrests and why they havent happen yet?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
3. Also Devin Nunes had his top secret security clearance revoked,
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:20 PM
Jun 2017

which he never had because members of Congress don't get or need security clearances. And didn't the Marshal of the Supreme Court try to deliver some kind of warning to Trump on the tarmac before he left the country? And what about the indictments coming from the FISA court which doesn't issue indictments?

Mensch is a joke.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,112 posts)
2. Interesting programing tonight.
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:18 PM
Jun 2017

While Megyn Kelly played footsie with Vladimir Putin, CBS "60 Minutes" exposed the rash of deaths in Putin's sphere of influence.

I ignore Mensch.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
34. I did not know that good on 60 Min plus they guaranteed the oh ICK Putin /Kelly channel changers
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 10:53 AM
Jun 2017

stopped to take a look

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
5. Good episode of On the Media yesterday about...
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:27 PM
Jun 2017

.... how Louise Mensch and her ilk threaten the left with the problems that have pretty much destroyed the Republican party. I was reassured to hear that as yet the left does not have Breitbart lik websites, etc.

krawhitham

(4,644 posts)
46. You mean the Republican party that is in control of everything at all levels, how is that destroyed?
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 02:51 PM
Jun 2017

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
6. Louise Mensch is not a RELIGION. She's a citizen journalist
Sun Jun 4, 2017, 11:53 PM
Jun 2017

She reports facts and expresses opinions about facts she's reported or have been reported by others. Also, she sometimes does this whole competitive middle school thing which I find interesting even secretly entertaining.

I read her every single day and sometimes retweet her.

The focus should be on what she's sharing through reporting and opining not whether or not you're a fan. She's not a TV show.

If you read the replies to her tweets, you'll see many people have thanked her for giving them hope. Many talk about being scared and feeling overwhelmed by the Trump and Republican shit show.

I don't follow her because I try to limit my follows to #BlackExcellence and #POCExcellence

However. I support Louise Mensch efforts to expose the truth about Russia's overthrow of the US govt and her understanding it. We need her voice.

Instead of looking for a savior, people should start READING and becoming informed because a MEGA STORM is coming.

This is not only about the investigation. This is also about having a functioning federal govt as the Justice League (Meuller's Team) begins to issue arrest warrants for co-conspirators.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
9. Well, FITZMAS never came, either but it gave people hope as well.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 12:27 AM
Jun 2017

And wasn't Cheney supposed to be arrested in "one business day?"

Many of her facts do come true--and she does generate some great discussions.

Have a grain of salt handy, and dive in. Or don't.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
10. You left out a word. Fitzmas gave people "false" hope.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 12:31 AM
Jun 2017

And many of Mensch's "facts" can't "come true" because it is impossible for them to be true.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
14. Bush got tamped down here and there.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 01:21 AM
Jun 2017

So it wasn't entirely a failure.

FWIW, the guy that oversaw Fitzy himself was Comey.

And Comey was the guy who rushed to Ashcroft's bedside to prevent Andy Card and Alberto Gonzales from persuading a drugged Ashcroft from signing documents when he wasn't competent to perform his duties and had ceded them to Comey.

But here's the thing--if you don't care for her, don't read her. Waving everyone else off of her because you don't like her is a bit...alarmist.

When she screws up she says so.

I think she's a character and yes, she does give me hope. And it's not entirely false, either.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
18. Whether people read her or not is their business
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 08:20 AM
Jun 2017

But its fair for people to point out when she's clearly just making shit up.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
12. Well maybe I'm better at differentiating facts from opinions
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 01:11 AM
Jun 2017

I read so many different sources NYT WAPO WSJ Daily Kos TOD, Mother Jones, Slate, LA Times, etc and lots and lots of non fiction.

I do diverge from Louise when it comes to James Comey. I think he's both a witness to obstruction of justice by Trump and his admin and subject when it comes to overthrow of the US govt.

I can hold these two ideas in my brain without it exploding.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
17. lol she is employed by Rupert Murdoch.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 02:17 AM
Jun 2017


Fox News says that we shouldn't listen to fake news reports about Trump and

Presto

somebody employed by newscorp spams out tons of fake news

Trump indicted, impeachment already started, Marshal of the Supreme Court gave Trump formal notice.

Interesting thing is that this "citizen journalist" works at Newscorp where there have been dozens of leaks about the internal destruction and war at Newscorp and she doesn't get any leads about that story.

BTW she has specifically said that she is NOT a journalist and when she uses the word "believe" in her tweets they are not based in fact at all.

womanofthehills

(8,702 posts)
29. Louise Mensch has not been working at News Corp's Heat Street since last December
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 10:32 AM
Jun 2017


She calls herself an investigative journalist.
 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
38. Yes with you! -I support Louise Mensch efforts to expose the truth about Russia's overthrow of USG
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 11:47 AM
Jun 2017

100% this.

I support Louise Mensch efforts to expose the truth about Russia's overthrow of the US govt and her understanding it. We need her voice.

FBaggins

(26,731 posts)
48. She's neither a citizen (of the US) nor a journalist
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 03:36 PM
Jun 2017

Unless you count Alex Jones and his ilk as "journalists"

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
39. No, she thought that some BLM protests had infiltrators that wanted to give them bad coverage
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 11:53 AM
Jun 2017

by acting out using violence. (Cassandra Rules was there with RT to film it)

About Bernie she thought it too curious when he put down Ossof right after Ossof along with Handel made it to the 2nd round. She thought (as a conservative not all-aware of the DEM party inner workings) weird that a left-side figure would sabotage one of their own.

BainsBane
13. Did she really claim BLM and Bernie were Russian agents?

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
15. Here's some more of the wit and wisdom of LM
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 01:55 AM
Jun 2017

Mensch on Thatcher's death.
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Mensch on Brexit

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Mensch on Syrian refugees


"We in Britain look at the disaster of Angela Merkel saying 'come one, come all' and what that's actually meant, is that there are no real refugees.

The criminal attacks, the massacres that were carried out in Brussels and in Belgium, carried out by young men who have mostly just abandoned their women folk and abandoned their families. Young men of fighting age who’ve literally stormed into Europe and pretty much taken it over."

video here:https://www.indy100.com/article/louise-mensch-went-on-a-fox-news-rant-about-refugees-and-had-a-complete-nightmare--b1g_IKSurlZ

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
16. And here is some of what she had to say when Milo Y was banned from twitter
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 02:08 AM
Jun 2017

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This is who Louise Mensch really is. The people who endlessly promote her here pretend it's not...but it is.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
19. Thank you. I've been saying this all along.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 08:34 AM
Jun 2017

She's NOT our friend, and has been right all of ONCE. Not a trustworthy individual.

womanofthehills

(8,702 posts)
30. She hates Trump with a passion - hates Putin too
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 10:35 AM
Jun 2017

She has been right many times. We need everyone who is going after Trump.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
36. And when she's been wrong it's b/c she drew faulty conclusions from too few facts.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 11:34 AM
Jun 2017

I'm not sure why you feel we "need" someone like that, but that's too undependable for my tastes. That's not journalism, that's not investigation. That's throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
25. She's reversed her view on Milo.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 10:17 AM
Jun 2017

And she is an avowed conservative. That's not a secret.

But she has one thing in common with me--she loathes Trump.

No one is "promoting" her here. Sheesh, the drama.


Taste and try--don't like? Don't buy.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
20. You know, if the emoprog left spent a tenth of the time attacking Trump
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 09:34 AM
Jun 2017

that they do attacking Mensch and Hillary among others (who are not without their valid criticisms, but there is such a thing as missing the forest for the trees)...

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
21. Indeed. It's a data point is all.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 09:39 AM
Jun 2017

Information to take in, file away and watch. I doubt most are taking it as religiously as the haters believe they think they are.

Considering even the National Enquirer breaks real news from time to time, it's generally worth at least giving it a cursory glance on the off-chance.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
28. LOL--Enquirer broke two stories I'll never forget....
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 10:24 AM
Jun 2017

John Edwards romance and baby with that Rielle Hunter, and OJ's "uglyass" Bruno Magli shoes.

Of course, they also sat on the story about Trump's affair with the PLAYBOY model while Melania was pregnant with Barron--the owner of that publication is friends with Pissy Hair Furor and he paid the model for her story with a non-disclosure/non-compete clause locked into the deal!

It is what it is--the vaunted, mainstream NYT told us that McCain was shtupping a lobbyist and that was a total lie....and they also gave us Judy Miller. One has to look, listen, weigh, discuss, and keep one of those open minds!

Kleveland

(1,257 posts)
33. The National Enquirer comparison is definitely my personal approach.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 10:45 AM
Jun 2017

Her statements are purely speculative entertainment at best for me.... I cannot take them seriously at all.

I cannot hold my breath for any event she presents as a possible fact.

Just like standing in line at the grocery store, being amused by the front page pretty much.

Sorry Louise... it is what it is.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
43. She found it curious when he put down Ossoff in Georgia for not being blah blah blah
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 12:31 PM
Jun 2017

m-lekktor (3,184 posts)
23. She thinks Bernie is a Russian agent? ROFL

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
31. Get a fucking clue, people. Russia interfered with our elections and had contact....
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 10:40 AM
Jun 2017

with the Trump campaign. That's not from Mensch. This is another attempt to muddy the waters and provide cover for Trump.

This is fake news.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
40. Yep! This people very interested in taking down LM as in the video- very "concerned" am sure
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 11:56 AM
Jun 2017

for some reason.

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
32. You can't blame her..
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 10:44 AM
Jun 2017

She is just riding the wave baby

The problem is folks can't separate facts from propaganda.. and when someone, anyone comes along and "confirms" their collective/ predetermined viewpoint.. well, here we are..

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
35. If what she claims comes to pass, then it will turn out that she was quoting reliable sources.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 10:56 AM
Jun 2017

If they do not, then either she had unreliable sources or she was intentionally pushing a false story. I'm not sure why I should lose any sleep about it either way.

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