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MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
1. It's not a zero-sum game.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 02:24 PM
Jun 2017

The two things have nothing to do with one another. One can be concerned about both without conflict.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
3. I don't know about you, but I have multiple issues
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 02:27 PM
Jun 2017

that are priorities for me. I can think about and post about all of them. No problem.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
6. When you are posting about one, you are not posting about the other.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 02:29 PM
Jun 2017

I never made mention of your mental acuity. Not sure why that is where you went.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
10. Yes, that's obvious.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 02:31 PM
Jun 2017

However, I might post about one and then post about the other shortly thereafter. In fact, I often do that. Again, the two things are not mutually exclusive, as I said before. I can think about both of them within a very short period of time.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
13. "Yes, that's obvious."
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 02:36 PM
Jun 2017

I thought so as well. You again go back to your own mental acuity. Something I have not questioned.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
4. Because doubling down and making excuses for racial slurs
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 02:27 PM
Jun 2017

Makes us what? Embarrassed. Just no excuses.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
9. How many here have? Why not rail at them for having misplaced priorities? Haven't seen anyone
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 02:31 PM
Jun 2017

Lecture them on that, versus hundreds of lectures aimed at those bothered by bigotry. Why are you piling in the wrong people?

Caliman73

(11,736 posts)
12. Actually the fact that the are not zero-sum would not be an argument for prioritization.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 02:35 PM
Jun 2017

We certainly should prioritize our efforts based on the relative damage and problems caused by each incident. I totally agree with you there. However zero sum means If I win some, you lose some and vice versa. What Mineral Man is saying is that we can be upset by both Trump's nonsense, and when one of our own (or at least in proximity to us) does something stupid. Again, you are totally right that our main focus should be on the larger issue, which is what Trump is doing to enrich himself and damage the country. I however, can spare a minute or 5 to point out how dumb it is for a White comedian to use "house ni$$er", even if he is joking, or calling out racial bias, or whatever. If we just call it out, then move on, then we can focus on the other stuff. If we argue incessantly about why we shouldn't call them out, or should, or whatever else, then we spend days instead of minutes or hours on the topic.

Question: What should our priorities be according to you? Are you arguing that we should not point out problems with using racially charged words in a very inappropriate way by a person who is supposedly on the liberal side because there are more important things to do than to hold everyone to a standard?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
15. You make my point well enough for me.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 02:40 PM
Jun 2017

"Are you arguing that we should not point out problems with using racially charged words in a very inappropriate way by a person who is supposedly on the liberal side because there are more important things to do than to hold everyone to a standard?"

What?

I wouldn't even consider debating someone who throws something so loaded and made up out there.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
7. A rational mind may concern itself with multiple concerns.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 02:29 PM
Jun 2017

A rational mind may concern itself with multiple concerns.

I do however, deeply sympathize with those who are irrational and unable to, and with those who are fanboys and unwilling to.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
16. The only good thing I can see about requests like these is
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 02:40 PM
Jun 2017

if a person's amount of outrage is finite, then focus it on the most important things. Or, to avoid outrage fatigue and then not being outraged at trump et al, let this pass by.

However, while Trump et al can cause serious damage to so many, it's important to call out the bigotry in others also.

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