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still_one

(92,190 posts)
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 03:23 PM Jun 2017

Give fearless leader a break. Privitizing the air traffic control system will work out just fine

"Flight 195, your landing is very important to us. Press 1 for Billing,
Press 2 for Technical Support, Press 3 for Sales, Press 4 for information about our company, Press 5 to leave a message, Press 6 to speak to a controller, press 7 to repeat these options."

Item 6 Pressed:

"Please stay on the line and our next available Flight Controller will assist you. Your safe landing is important to us. Thank you for your patience"

Music on hold

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Give fearless leader a break. Privitizing the air traffic control system will work out just fine (Original Post) still_one Jun 2017 OP
Press 0 to crash. dalton99a Jun 2017 #1
It is just insanity to want to do this still_one Jun 2017 #6
In case of emergency, dial 911. nt. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #2
That is unfortunately more like it. I really hope congress blocks this still_one Jun 2017 #7
Not only that, but the minimum wage burger flippers will have new options. Vinca Jun 2017 #3
There is no rational justification for privatizing the air traffic controller system. it will still_one Jun 2017 #8
They're just looking for a way to dump the expense MineralMan Jun 2017 #4
You nailed it MM. the air traffic control system is not a profit center, it is a system to insure still_one Jun 2017 #9
Yeah...sure it will.... just like.. Xolodno Jun 2017 #5
You are adding to my nightmares Xolo. We really have to stop this in 2018 still_one Jun 2017 #10
Sorry...but as much as it was tongue and cheek... Xolodno Jun 2017 #16
I know, I go to Yosemite every so often still_one Jun 2017 #18
You and me, both. Xolodno Jun 2017 #19
Wow. For places like Yosemite Lodge you need to make reservations about a year ahead of time still_one Jun 2017 #20
Tell me about it. Xolodno Jun 2017 #21
. . . CousinIT Jun 2017 #11
Thank you cousin. Your OP over there should read by everyone to understand the implications still_one Jun 2017 #12
Could this be the first phase of trying to completely privatize ATC and turn it to "for profit"? SFnomad Jun 2017 #13
No question about it. They want to privatize everything no matter how vital the service still_one Jun 2017 #14
Since the RepubliCONs are going to get more people killed than the "terrorists" ... SFnomad Jun 2017 #15
He's going to build a wall, then quadruple the cost of flying out of this country. ecstatic Jun 2017 #17

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
3. Not only that, but the minimum wage burger flippers will have new options.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 03:27 PM
Jun 2017

Who doesn't want to fly the friendly skies being directed by a low paid, pissed off controller?

still_one

(92,190 posts)
8. There is no rational justification for privatizing the air traffic controller system. it will
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 03:52 PM
Jun 2017

fragments the system, makes it less efficient, and risky

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
4. They're just looking for a way to dump the expense
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 03:29 PM
Jun 2017

onto the airlines and on to the flying public. By taking the government out of the business of controlling the airspace, it becomes a commercial enterprise with profitability the highest priority. What could go wrong with that? (if that's really needed)

still_one

(92,190 posts)
9. You nailed it MM. the air traffic control system is not a profit center, it is a system to insure
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 03:55 PM
Jun 2017

safety

Trump is completely off his rocker

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
5. Yeah...sure it will.... just like..
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 03:35 PM
Jun 2017

...privatizing the National Park System will work out just fine.

Welcome to Yosemite, brought to you by Trump Golf Courses. Please note, due to summer bigly attendance, entrance fees are now $300 per car. The Wawona Golf Course wasn't up to par (see what I did there), so most of Mariposa Grove has been clear cut and additional 9 holes were added to make Wawona an 18 hole course. The Yosemite Valley course will be completed next year and once completed we will start working on the Ansel Adams Wilderness and John Muir Trail courses. What a great way to honor these pioneers.

Please also visit our sister site, Yellowstone with its natural water hazards. We've recently placed all animals in a separate zoo for your family's enjoyment.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
16. Sorry...but as much as it was tongue and cheek...
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 04:59 PM
Jun 2017

...its also a possible reality. My nightmare, is that some people actually think that this would be a good idea. Adjust entrance fee's during peak and low seasons like a hotel. Add attractions that generate additional income, etc. And they'll say the additional money is used to "preserve" the park, despite the fact they destroyed 90% of it to protect just 10%.

Hey, once you've seen one giant Sequoia, you've seen them all....or... we can build fountains more marvelous and on specific intervals instead of those mounds that spit water up and never on time.

I'll never forget when someone I knew quoted Ayn Rand and I retorted with a quote from Adam Smith. The person said what I quoted sounded socialist. My response "The father of modern economics and capitalism is in your words...A SOCIALST??!!". The back peddling was amazing. He even admitted that he didn't know much about economics...but yet, he was trying advocate a bogus economic ideology that would never work.

2018 will just be a band-aid. But the ignorance, is the long term cancer that needs to be cured.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
19. You and me, both.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 06:23 PM
Jun 2017

My favorite trail is probably the one to Ostrander Lake. Done it twice in a single day...next time, I'll get the permit and stay overnight. But a part of me can't help think that there are people out there that think some paved blacktop or tram should take them up there. Yosemite, of for that matter, any national park/monument/etc. is not Disneyland. But too many people can't distinguish it.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
20. Wow. For places like Yosemite Lodge you need to make reservations about a year ahead of time
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 06:37 PM
Jun 2017

going there on a day trip is a tough haul

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
21. Tell me about it.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 07:13 PM
Jun 2017

Starting at over 7k elevation, six miles one way, 2k+ elevation gain... makes me wonder if I'm subconsciously into S&M. It kicked my ass, twice. And I'm not skinny (then again, people skinnier than me can't climb the 10 flight of stairs to our floor). But I enjoyed that trail more than Chilnualna Falls.

Don't think I'll have much of a problem getting a permit to stay overnight...that area gets hit heavily during the winter for the ski hut. Come summer, most try to reserve the valley area or along Tioga. The campgrounds along Glacier Point Road don't even require a reservation and seldom get full. If you exclude the people who go up that road just before sunset for the view, Bass lake, near Oakhurst, gets a heck of a lot more traffic.

But to be honest, aside from the Hetch Hetchy area, haven't done any hikes along Tioga.

Side note, committed a hikers sin in Hetch Hetchy and didn't bring enough water...was forced to fill up at Wampama Falls...without my purifier....best damn water I've ever tasted and didn't get sick. But then again, I've been through Montezuma's revenge...so, that may have had an impact.

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
13. Could this be the first phase of trying to completely privatize ATC and turn it to "for profit"?
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 04:33 PM
Jun 2017

This sounds like something not too different from Amtrak and we know how much RepubliCONs love to hate on Amtrak. They want to get rid of it and totally privatize it.

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
15. Since the RepubliCONs are going to get more people killed than the "terrorists" ...
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 04:53 PM
Jun 2017

can we round them all up and deport them?

ecstatic

(32,701 posts)
17. He's going to build a wall, then quadruple the cost of flying out of this country.
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 05:06 PM
Jun 2017

The private ATC will either cut corners to save money or we'll return to a time when only the wealthy could afford to fly.

Perfect.

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