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This election was f**king STOLEN!!! (Original Post) still_one Jun 2017 OP
We have a serious f'ing problem. Nt NCTraveler Jun 2017 #1
We sure do, and there is nothing we can realistically do until 2018 still_one Jun 2017 #2
They are losing clout. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #4
It is something NC, but we still have two years to get through still_one Jun 2017 #5
An extremely difficult two years under the best of outcomes. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #7
We have only our OWN party to worry about then. Eliot Rosewater Jun 2017 #51
We sure do, and there is nothing we can realistically do until 2018. LenaBaby61 Jun 2017 #10
LOL...President deVos, anyone? PatrickforO Jun 2017 #16
EEK on deVos! Although hard to see how she could be much worse than 45. deurbano Jun 2017 #24
President Ben Carson? RKP5637 Jun 2017 #29
Oh, god... a bottomless pit of possible contenders! deurbano Jun 2017 #36
Sadly true. maddiemom Jun 2017 #50
Line of Succession DaleFromWPB Jun 2017 #52
Yes it was! Little Star Jun 2017 #3
THANK YOU!!! knr LaydeeBug Jun 2017 #6
Yes! And while we're at it, will PTB please apologize to Al Gore for stealing the 2000 election! MoonRiver Jun 2017 #8
Yes it was. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #9
I hope this investigation also includes anyone who tried to compromise it such as chaffetz and nunes still_one Jun 2017 #11
K&R brer cat Jun 2017 #12
Word. mahina Jun 2017 #13
Yes it was. What now? nt Maven Jun 2017 #14
There needs to be a movement Mr.Bill Jun 2017 #15
Get those bdamomma Jun 2017 #17
MOre on that here: Amaryllis Jun 2017 #63
I totally think it was. And many on the internet were prevented from even asking the question. Honeycombe8 Jun 2017 #18
apology? LOL! that'll never happen. not from the media orleans Jun 2017 #19
deserves an apology? deserves the presidency! NRaleighLiberal Jun 2017 #20
Absolutely, but the Constitution doesn't allow that, even if the election results were bogus still_one Jun 2017 #22
We also deserve decades of stolen elections! Initech Jun 2017 #23
yessirreeeeee NRaleighLiberal Jun 2017 #26
Shout it from the rooftops!!! Initech Jun 2017 #21
Not to mention the Dem leadership who have hidden their heads in the sand about the abysymal Amaryllis Jun 2017 #25
THIS! There are Dems and repubs...but - there are also politicians - and us. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2017 #27
We are at war with so many fronts. world wide wally Jun 2017 #28
Hillary getting an apology is the least of my concerns with our future. MadDAsHell Jun 2017 #30
Understood. Nevertheless, it'd be nice to have for the record. calimary Jun 2017 #32
Right... as the 'street cred' of Killer Mike and tone policing are much more critical. LanternWaste Jun 2017 #46
THANK YOU. calimary Jun 2017 #31
... Jamaal510 Jun 2017 #33
She kicked his ass by 3 million votes. Of course it was ripped off. onecaliberal Jun 2017 #34
YES!!! And I agree, she deserves more than an apology. She deserves the presidency! lunamagica Jun 2017 #35
Give 'em hell Hillary! ucrdem Jun 2017 #37
If I heard one more person say --- Grammy23 Jun 2017 #38
It's just willful blindness to say that there weren't serious issues with her campaign... Baconator Jun 2017 #41
Oh Yes.. they were Quick to Cha Jun 2017 #39
My gut sense told me that night and still tells me that tRump* did not fairly win the election... Raster Jun 2017 #40
Yep - She deserves an apology - that'll teach 'em! jmg257 Jun 2017 #42
it was indeed stolen. niyad Jun 2017 #43
Yep ailsagirl Jun 2017 #44
But it's scary! Don't say it! byronius Jun 2017 #45
A message for REPUBLICANS! yuiyoshida Jun 2017 #47
+++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Jun 2017 #48
We clearly need a Constitutional Amendment to deal with the case where an Election is rigged against OliverQ Jun 2017 #49
YES YES YES!!!!!✅✅✅✅✅👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻? Liberal In Red State Jun 2017 #53
She deserves an apology from those that said they were "ashamed of Democrats" ehrnst Jun 2017 #54
Most definitely it was stolen. hamsterjill Jun 2017 #55
You have a lot of folks here agreeing with you on this Jill still_one Jun 2017 #56
Yep, still_one, I know. hamsterjill Jun 2017 #59
COUP. Say it, repeat it, love it. C.O.U.P. WinkyDink Jun 2017 #57
I may have been purged Mercurian Jun 2017 #58
As someone stated in another thread, musette_sf Jun 2017 #60
Yep. THey knew they had it in the bag. That's why they didn't even let GArland come up for a vote. Amaryllis Jun 2017 #62
Paper tiptonic Jun 2017 #61

still_one

(92,190 posts)
2. We sure do, and there is nothing we can realistically do until 2018
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 08:20 PM
Jun 2017

even if trump is impeached, resigns, or the 25th amendment is used against him, the line of succession is a disaster

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
51. We have only our OWN party to worry about then.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 01:52 PM
Jun 2017

Unless we ALL Agree to vote for ANY and all Dems NO MATTER WHAT, we wont do jack shit.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
10. We sure do, and there is nothing we can realistically do until 2018.
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 08:36 PM
Jun 2017

Not sure about that ^^^.

Even if we as Dems come out in record numbers (Would be great, as Dems normally don't come out for mid-term elections), the GOP will be voter-suppressing us by any means necessary and off the chain, AND the ruskies will be back at it again (They've never stopped meddling per Clint Watts), because tRumputin pretty much "officially" invited them into our elections in July 2016 when he told the russians to go find Hillary's emails.

Would you actually trust THIS current ruskie-involved DOJ lead by beauguard (As long as he remains AG--he may be on his way out) on anything that might benefit Dems in a positive way? We've gotten a few wonderful rulings out of NC and Tx overturning and making right voting-right wrongs done by thuglicans, but there will come a time when we will get a ruling which ISN'T in our best interest concerning voting rights.

As of now, Dems still remain at the mercy of the ruskies (Damn, that shouldn't be so here in the USA for God's sake) and of thuglicans re voter-suppression efforts.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
50. Sadly true.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 01:48 PM
Jun 2017

Pence would be tarred with the same brush as Trump, and Paul Ryan is under a cloud himself. Orrin Hatch then? President Pro Temp of the Senate is next in line. The cheating party comes out ahead, anyway. Some seventeen months until the next election could possibly gives Democrats control of Congress. After Hatch the line of succession goes down through the cabinet (all Trump picks), making Hatch lo lie a last resort (what's wrong with this picture?) No provisions in the Constiitution for a do-over election. I guess the founding fathers never imagined a major political part y to go so "rogue." The concept of the"loyal opposition" has been gone for the Republicans since Eisenhower and the Democrats were very slow to catch on.

 

DaleFromWPB

(76 posts)
52. Line of Succession
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 02:27 PM
Jun 2017

If Trump is no longer President, for whatever reason, and Pence takes over - he will immediately nominate a new VP.

The VP nominee needs to be approved by a majority of each branch of Congress.

If Trump and Pence were to simultaneously leave office, Ryan becomes President and nominates a new VP for consideration by Congress.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
8. Yes! And while we're at it, will PTB please apologize to Al Gore for stealing the 2000 election!
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 08:29 PM
Jun 2017

The coup is not complete, but too close for comfort.

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
17. Get those
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 09:14 PM
Jun 2017

freaking Russians out of our elections and get tRump out now, he's a FAKE period.

Damn his supporters. Or bring back paper ballots.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
18. I totally think it was. And many on the internet were prevented from even asking the question.
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 09:54 PM
Jun 2017

It was considered being a sore loser. Or causing people to lose faith in our election system.

And here we are...those who asked the question "Is it possible? This result doesn't jive with the data" were spot on.

This goes to show that it is worth at least having the discussion, when something seems genuinely amiss.

We likely have an interloper in the White House. And this is why we are seeing the White House in chaos, the country in crisis, and the worst President in history.

orleans

(34,051 posts)
19. apology? LOL! that'll never happen. not from the media
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 10:00 PM
Jun 2017

the "so-called political analysts" or the editorialists

any apology from them is nearly as unimaginable as trump offering her an apology.

Initech

(100,076 posts)
21. Shout it from the rooftops!!!
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 10:03 PM
Jun 2017

We are under control from a hostile entity intent on destroying the very fabric of our country. The sooner this nightmare ends and they're all behind bars, the better!

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
25. Not to mention the Dem leadership who have hidden their heads in the sand about the abysymal
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 10:18 PM
Jun 2017

state of our elections for years, yet still love to analyze how they need to change their message.

world wide wally

(21,743 posts)
28. We are at war with so many fronts.
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 10:22 PM
Jun 2017

The Russians, the Republicans, the deplorables, voter suppression, rigged machines, and getting our voters out.
Pick one and work at it.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
46. Right... as the 'street cred' of Killer Mike and tone policing are much more critical.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 01:20 PM
Jun 2017

Right... as the 'street cred' of Killer Mike and tone policing are much more critical.

Look at that! Our two posts of equal irrelevance to the OP!

calimary

(81,267 posts)
31. THANK YOU.
Tue Jun 6, 2017, 10:38 PM
Jun 2017

If bush/cheney wasn't enough to prove it, THIS round certainly does.

The ONLY way these GOP SOBs can win the White House (or run the table in the House, Senate, or at the state level for that matter) is if they cheat.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
38. If I heard one more person say ---
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 01:35 AM
Jun 2017

But she ran a horrible campaign, I thought I would scream. Then why was she predicted to win by so many reputable polls? Why did so many of the people in this country feel certain we were headed to a Clinton Presidency?

We can now understand that we weren't wrong. We were robbed! And they did it right under our noses, which is one of the reasons why it hurt so much. For Hillary---- To have to lose to the awful tyrant and then have to come out on stage and be gracious about it must have been the biggest blow of all. And now to learn that it was all stolen from her and from us is a kick to the gut.

We must have justice. tRump must pay for his crimes and anyone else involved in this scheme/scam must be prosecuted. There will be no way to make it right for Hillary, but she should be given the satisfaction of knowing she really did win. And we deserve to know the truth, too.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
39. Oh Yes.. they were Quick to
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 04:23 AM
Jun 2017

go around Smugly telling us why she lost.. and "Democrats are feeble..".. etc etc etc.. so much Bullshit.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
40. My gut sense told me that night and still tells me that tRump* did not fairly win the election...
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 10:38 AM
Jun 2017

...I believed then and I believe now that Russian hacking actually did change vote totals in select areas to favor tRump*.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
49. We clearly need a Constitutional Amendment to deal with the case where an Election is rigged against
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 01:42 PM
Jun 2017

a candidate to install the candidate that won the popular vote.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
55. Most definitely it was stolen.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 04:47 PM
Jun 2017

We've all known it. We just haven't been able to prove it. But some of the pieces are falling into place, at least.

My heart aches for Hillary and what has been done to her. Trump and his minions need to pay dearly.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
59. Yep, still_one, I know.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 05:40 PM
Jun 2017

I know you've been one of the ones screaming from the rooftops that it was stolen, and I've been right there with you.

It's just that right is right, and wrong is wrong, and I sure would like "right" to triumph for once. I think it would be good for all of us to see actual justice. I'm not holding my breath, but I can hope, at least.

Mercurian

(48 posts)
58. I may have been purged
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 05:11 PM
Jun 2017

I moved seven months before the election, and I knew I had to let the BOE know so I could vote in the new district. I sent in the form, but never got a notification that it had been fixed.
About a week before the election I became concerned and went to the BOE in person.
They had no record of me.
I got it straightened out, but if I hadn't I would've been shut out on Election Day. I was furious, thinking it was the state GOP. But now I've learned that NC was on the list of states where the GRU tried to access the voter rolls.
Maybe it was 'innocent' laziness by the Republican-appointed BOE staff. Maybe it was the NC GOP culling Democrats who'd changed their poling places in the last six months. But maybe..

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