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Louise Mensch?Verified account @LouiseMensch 55m55 minutes ago
Louise Mensch Retweeted Greg Palast
Prepare for Trump and Pence to have their election voided. Hear me on this . It is coming.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Let me provide the explanations:
1. This is "raw intel"
2. She's not a lawyer, and so she gets the legal details wrong. Habitually.
3. You are a Russian troll.
4. I want to believe it, so it's true.
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)The process for "voiding" an election, look it up.
Maybe she drinks?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)Section 1.
Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.
Section 2.
The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states.
A person charged in any state with treason, felony, or other crime, who shall flee from justice, and be found in another state, shall on demand of the executive authority of the state from which he fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the state having jurisdiction of the crime.
No person held to service or labor in one state, under the laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in consequence of any law or regulation therein, be discharged from such service or labor, but shall be delivered up on claim of the party to whom such service or labor may be due.
Section 3.
New states may be admitted by the Congress into this union; but no new states shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state; nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states, or parts of states, without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned as well as of the Congress.
The Congress shall have power to dispose of and make all needful rules and regulations respecting the territory or other property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to prejudice any claims of the United States, or of any particular state.
Section 4.
The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.
Brother Buzz
(36,433 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)in ball-pen ink? Well, who could argue with that?
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HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)My Bad
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)salin
(48,955 posts)while it is toasting, and then you can see it. Just like the Founding Fathers meant it to be. *snicker.*
Break time
(195 posts)SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)She's getting worse. I haven't decided yet whether she really thinks she's getting "real" information and thinks of herself as an actual journalist, or if she's intentionally trolling, either for the purpose of wreaking mischief, or just for the fun of it. This is the most ridiculous bit of "news" yet.
alwaysinflux
(149 posts)... like a moth to a flame....
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)"hey milo, lets see if I can get gullible liberals to believe some bullshit. watch this"
Of course I could be wrong and she is just actually crazy.
Charlotte Little
(658 posts)x 2,000 million billion...
I was soaking all in her Kool-Aid Jacuzzi until I got hit in the head by a reality hammer. I have an indent in my forehead now, but it was worth it to get out of the Mensch stench tub.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)People will imply things about you if you criticize her. The owner of this site has even commented negatively about her in several threads though.
I have always been a conspiracy skeptic especially if it favors my views. other people are the opposite. I just never believe things that seem too good to be true!
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)they are proclaimed incoherently, using terminology that is wrong and describing events that can't possibly have occurred.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)I don't pay attention to her tweets. I read a few at first then I googled her! :shudder:
Charlotte Little
(658 posts)...you'd know that I could care less about what is implied about me.
The Louise fan club members need to pull their heads out of their asses.
womanofthehills
(8,709 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)onenote
(42,703 posts)Yep. A New York City lawyer with a two person practice that includes "elevator accidents" is going to be on top of what's happening in the Eastern District of Virginia.
http://www.lauferlawgroup.com/about.html
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)venued in E.D. Va.? If he could get diversity jurisdiction it would be possible. Then obviously he'd know all about what's happening there because he'd be hanging around the courthouse, maybe catching scraps of conversations he could tweet immediately to Louise. He might hear the words "grand jury" or "indictment" just as an elevator door closed and cut him off from the rest of the conversation, but, hey, wouldn't that meant he'd heard something from a source "close to the Eastern District of Virginia"?
Persisted
(290 posts)LibraLiz1973
(8,197 posts)I laughed when I saw her preposterous post.
bigtree
(85,996 posts)...tonight.
So much concern in these posts.
brettdale
(12,381 posts)Must know shes off the deep end.
Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)I see what's going on here tonight.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)brettdale
(12,381 posts)classic
Stinky The Clown
(67,799 posts)dalton99a
(81,488 posts)FBaggins
(26,737 posts)Clinton is already President (secretly). These body-double actors are just standing in for Trump/Pence until the rest of the crime syndicate can be arrested. All of this is confirmed by multiple sources.
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MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)Even in house of cards, revote was held as electors were not ready to vote.
stillsoleft
(80 posts)I'm a little behind. Is that season 4?
calimary
(81,267 posts)It's really kinda nuts. Lawrence O'Donnell led with "This Is Watergate." Because of all the reports about trump trying to get others to sit on James Comey so he'd stop investigating.
My head is spinning. I remember the original Watergate. That was pretty jaw-dropping, too. But Nixon never tried to get into bed with the Russians.
I NEVER EVER thought I'd find myself saying this is making Nixon look like a kid who stole some extra desserts on the lunch line. Hell, I've actually removed bush/cheney from the top of my worst-president list. trump out-ranks them all. And he's not even through his first year yet. Let's hope he doesn't last into a second year. He's a public menace - now, on a global basis.
stillsoleft
(80 posts)But that credit goes to Michelle Obama
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)demmiblue
(36,851 posts)Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)But no mention of Trump and Pence being impeached, only that "he" is being impeached. "He" could mean anyone.
No it couldn't mean anyone. Look at the tweet she's responding to. Just click it, it's right there.
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)She specifically chose to use the word "he".
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)Though "she" could potentially have meant half of the world's population
melman
(7,681 posts)So you're trolling. Got it.
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)Exclusive: Sources familiar with James Comeys thinking say that todays explosive testimony was planned in advance as part of the counterintelligence operation against Russias attack on the United States.
James Comey knew in advance he was going to be fired, these sources say, when Trump threatened him. At that point, the Director set in place countermeasures to protect the FBIs investigation from Trumps interference.
These included discussions with future key players at the Department of Justice and the FBI, these sources say, including Acting Director McCabe and Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein.
It was further anticipated by Director Comey, these sources say, that the Trump team would both try to access FBI data and pass it to Russian intelligence. As we earlier reported exclusively, data from Director Comeys computer was both taken by the Trump Team and passed to the Russians. The property of the United States was then recovered, these sources say. Separate sources with links to the Justice Department say, without being definitive, that it is thought that Attorney General Jeff Sessions ordered an IT audit of Director Comeys electronics, and so the data may have been lawfully collected in a way that would not raise suspicions. Removable media containing data from Director Comeys computer was then passed to the Russians, sources with links to the intelligence community confirm, adding that the said data has been recovered.
Director Comey anticipated further both that Donald Trump would boast he had tapes on him, and that he, Comey, would be called to Congress to give the sensational testimony he has given today under oath. Comey is highly sensitized to the value of television and the news cycle, sources familiar with his thinking say. He had reluctantly become so, after understanding the crucial role the data laundering of Donald Trump played in the election. Comey therefore decided to wait until his live televised hearing to reveal some of his knowledge about the Russian hacking investigation to the public in order that its impact not be diminished. Indeed, with partisans of both parties seeking to blame Comey for their failures, the Director had become convinced that if he were not dismissed the investigation might focus too much on him and not enough on the foreign and domestic enemies of the United States. While he was angered at the manner of his firing, sources report, Director Comey regarded the situation with the dispassionate eye of a chess player sacrificing a rook to back his opponent into a corner. Both Donald Trump and his Russian handlers fell into line, up to and including their concentration on lines in yesterdays written testimony, which catfished Russian partisans into repeating obstruction of justice until the concept was firmly affixed in the publics mind. This left Comey open to detailing how Trump obstructed justice without using the term, today.
Director Comey was able to tell the public, using the GLOMAR technique, that both Donald Trump and Jeff Sessions are under criminal investigation for treason with Russia, and that both obstructed justice. Such a killer blow could not have been dealt at least not so easily had Trump and his Russian allies had the good sense to leave Director Comey to do his job.
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)How do you catfish Trump, who has already been told by the marshal of the Supreme Court that he is being impeached?
And is Comey secretly still employed by the FBI, since he is still working counterintelligence?
sarisataka
(18,655 posts)Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)Something's coming!
I don't know
what it is, but it is
gonna be great!
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)Just another voice, she gets far too much credit here on DU.
tirebiter
(2,537 posts)Must be Queen's English or sumpn'.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)There is no process in the Constitution for "voiding" an election. Even if a president is impeached, convicted and removed from office, the election itself would not have been voided or nullified, because that president was duly elected in accordance with Constitutional procedures (notwithstanding some dodgy doings that might have effected the outcome). Subsequent removal of the POTUS and VP because of some sort of wrongdoing while in office does not nullify the original election.
Words have specific meanings. Mensch throws them around as if she was playing with a Magnetic Poetry Kit that has legal words in it.
melman
(7,681 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)A Democratic Congressman, Al Green, has called for Trump's impeachment, but there is a specific procedure that has to be followed. Green says he's drafting articles of impeachment: http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/06/politics/al-green-trump-impeachment-plan/ But that's a long, long way from actual impeachment:
"Impeachment proceedings may be commenced in the House of Representatives by a Member declaring a charge of impeachment on his or her own initiative, by a Member presenting a memorial listing charges under oath, or by a Member depositing a resolution in the hopper, which is then referred to the appropriate committee. . . .
Resolutions regarding impeachment may be of two types. A resolution impeaching a particular individual who is within the category of impeachable officers under Art. II, Sec. 4 of the Constitution is usually referred directly to the House Committee on the Judiciary. A resolution to authorize an investigation as to whether grounds exist for the
House to exercise its impeachment power is referred to the House Committee on Rules. Generally, such a resolution is then referred to the House Judiciary Committee." https://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/98-806.pdf
The Judiciary Committee will conduct its own investigation to determine whether "high crimes or misdemeanors" have been committed, and if they decide to proceed they will draft articles of impeachment, which they will vote on and, if approved, send to the full House. The articles being drafted by Rep. Green might be considered but they won't be the final versions, if any. The president can be impeached by a simple majority, but conviction in the Senate requires a 2/3 majority.
So, in brief, any member of the House, or certain others, can take steps to get the ball rolling, but nothing will happen unless the House Judiciary Committee decides to proceed. The current Judiciary Committee consists of 24 Republicans and 17 Democrats. QED.
melman
(7,681 posts)She is blatantly making shit up. As she always does.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Watch the words come out of his mouth (sorry it's a Faux link) but he did it: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/17/dem-rep-green-calls-for-trump-impeachment-on-house-floor.html
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)Green said he plans to draw up articles yesterday.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/06/politics/al-green-trump-impeachment-plan/
onenote
(42,703 posts)Speeches do not trigger (or even allow for) any action by the full House. You have to actually introduce something that can be voted on or referred to a committee. Green has done no such thing.
And this is how the presiding officer of the House responded to Green's speech: "Members are reminded to refrain from engaging in personalities toward the President, such as accusations that he committed an impeachable offense." https://www.congress.gov/crec/2017/05/17/CREC-2017-05-17-house.pdf
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)"Voided" was just Twitter short-hand. Two tweets later she used the word impeached again.
HarmonyRockets
(397 posts)that they are having their election impeached? That doesn't vmake any sense either.
Seriously, I cant believe there are people on this board still listening to this troll.
melman
(7,681 posts)Whatever that means.
She specifically said the Supreme Court will void the election.
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)learned anything about the American legal and political systems. If she did, she'd know that the Supreme Court has no power to void an election.
JHan
(10,173 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)There is no genetic defect which prevents a British person from understanding the basics of the US Constitution. None, zip, zilch, zero.
It is an utterly silly statement to make.
One of the most fascinating discussions I ever had about the 7th Amendment and the role of juries in patent cases was with a British lawyer who ran rings around me on 7th Amendment jurisprudence.
It is utterly basic to political science courses everywhere to learn how different systems work.
Do you have some kind of birth defect as an American which prevents you from understanding how a parliamentary system works? Of course not.
In the weeks or months that she's been at this, she has had plenty of time to learn the basics. I refuse to believe that being British is some sort of congenital learning disability.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)If she wants to "report" on American law and politics she damn well ought to educate herself about those things.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Letter space is oh so important on the twitters
Demit
(11,238 posts)Or something like that. Louise might be a little hazy on the details.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)I heard the stamp was brought out 2 days ago. They are getting ready
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)and then tied it up with a ribbon. But it has to be a red ribbon or it doesn't count.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)onenote
(42,703 posts)I assume Mensch is buying some wiggle room by saying that they're only going to void the election, not "null and void" it.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)klook
(12,155 posts)Demit
(11,238 posts)jpak
(41,758 posts)Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)pnwmom
(108,978 posts)Why is that so shocking?
This is from Newsweek, a couple weeks ago:
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-impeachment-articles-impeach-green-614841
TRUMP IMPEACHMENT ARTICLES NOW BEING DRAFTED, SAYS DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN AL GREEN
SNIP
Green did not say when he would file a privileged resolution for impeachment, which would have to be considered in the House within two days, but said he was working with constitutional lawyers. And, he added, he would be prepared to go at it alone if need be.
At some point, well wait to see what others will do, and if no one else does, the president has committed an impeachable act, and I will take it upon myself to do that, he said.
Some Democrats have been far more cautious about jumping fully aboard the impeachment train. Yet others began openly using the impeachment word this month for the first time, following the fallout from Trumps firing of Comey and admittance that he did so while thinking about the FBIs investigation into possible collusion between his campaign and Russia.
SNIP
onenote
(42,703 posts)All he'll end up doing if he files a privileged resolution is harming the prospects of impeaching Trump.
Why? Because a privileged resolution can be tabled. And that's what would happen. So instead of having the normal process of introducing a motion or resolution calling for an impeachment investigation by the Judiciary Committee, where there would be pressure to hold hearings, the matter would die.
Remember when Kucinich introduced a privileged resolution against Bush? How did that turn out?
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Link to tweet
Seriously, the votes of over 63 million people are not going to be "voided." That's the way it is. The laws of our republic still rule. Maybe try to take heart from that.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)She has mentioned impeachment countless times.
And a few hours ago, she retweeted this piece on impeachment.
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-impeachment-articles-impeach-green-614841
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)validity, fine. Just please be cautious and not elevate trust in these "alternate" sources over those whose reputations are based on a long history of honesty and accuracy.
You've probably noticed that some of her admirers have reached a point down the rabbit hole where they are badmouthing and turning away from honest investigative journalists because they don't back her up, for them the light rapidly disappearing overhead. For social scientists, this slippery slope is a very common and well studied phenomenon.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)once said that there was no FISA warrant, and that other publications confidently reported that that the FBI was only investigating Russia, not DT team collusion.
We won't know all the facts till we do.
But she got a couple major things right before most everyone else. She knew that there really WAS an investigation going on that involved a FISA warrant -- and she knew that Comey was, despite his mistakes with Hillary -- actually going after the DT team. At a time when a lot of Dems wanted Comey to resign (as if DT would appoint someone better!), she argued that he was working on the case and we should trust that he was doing his job.
And he was.
And I believe that Rosenstein and Comey knew all along that Comey might get fired, and they were ready with Mueller waiting in the wings. Because the day after Comey got fired, Mueller unofficially began his work -- a week before he announced his law firm resignation. And that same day he announced his resignation, 2 of his partners at that firm also announced theirs. The fact that they could all act so quickly tells me that this was in the works for some time.
And now we're hearing that, among other things, one of the new hires has extensive experience in mob and money-laundering prosecutions.
DT's crimes are so wide-ranging it could take years to pull a case together. But they will. I am counting on that. And then, yes, he will be impeached -- unless, like Nixon, he resigns first.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)few occasions when it is true -- unlike this "voided" election thing.
I don't know why people imagine it'd be such a coup to read something unverified that only MIGHT turn out to be true a couple of days before responsible journalists verify and publish. If I thought I had to save the world with what I knew, maybe I could see it. As it is, I'm content to wait. And even with all that time available, I'm not willing to waste it on the Mensches of this world when I'll never read a ten-thousandth of the valuable, honest information in many fascinating fields being published every day.
Also, and to me very on point, when I was an at-home mother in my 20s I stopped reading our neighbor's National Enquirer when I realized I was retaining its entertaining nonsense and confusing it with what I read in the LA Times each day. My fund of knowledge could, and should, be far greater, but that awareness of danger is a critical reason it at least isn't filled with trash.
But to each his own.
Robert Frost 'I hold it to be the inalienable right of anybody to go to hell in his own way.'
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)somehow, despite everything.
People like Louise, who broke the FISA warrant story months before the US media, and Claude Taylor, with his own sources, helped keep the drumbeat against DT going, at a time when the US media was still reporting on statements of DT's unnamed "officials" as if they could be trusted.
And they told us to trust Comey and the ongoing investigative process, when too many people didn't.
Louise is not going to let up, and i'm grateful to her for that. This could be a long haul and no one should give up.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)My own experience is that all during this time many, many others, some with far, far larger readerships, have been beating that same drum against not just rump but many others involved in the destruction of our government. I also find that one in-depth article in The Atlantic, Foreign Affairs, New Yorker, or many other quality journals, does incredibly more for my understanding than a tweet.
I'm with you that we all need to set ourselves for a long haul, though. Bed time.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)I've been reading a lot, too. Louise and Claude aren't primary sources for me, though they have often tipped me off to articles in the MSM that i might have missed otherwise -- just like DU does.
But I remember back in January, when I was still in shock and couldn't believe DT was President, discovering Louise Mensch and her first story about DT and how Comey was the White Night. At the time it had felt like we were doomed, and I remember thinking -- if only this could be true. If only I knew Comey was -- very quietly, behind the scenes -- moving forward.
She was right. He was.
But we didn't really know that till he testified at the Senate hearing in late March. And then, after Comey got fired, and it turned out Rosenstein had written the letter criticizing Comey's treatment of Hillary, Rosenstein looked bad. But Louise said to trust Rosenstein, that he was a good guy, too. And she was right. He appointed Mueller as Special counsel the next day.
And now she's confident in Mueller, and so am I -- for lots of reasons that predate Louise, and from looking at the hires he's made since he became Special Counsel.
Louise's utter confidence that good will prevail and that DT will get his just deserts helped me through some dark days. And they'll probably continue to cheer me through the months and years ahead.
It won't make me complacent. It won't make me think I don't have to keep up the fight on my own end. I promise.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Birthers developed their own information ecosystem since the big bad old "MSM" was "ignoring the facts".
Over at Freeperville, they had these amazing whole-cloth legal theories about how Obama was going to be dragged kicking and screaming from the White House and that his presidency would be "nullified" to the extent that every law he signed or appointment he made would be automatically voided.
What was interesting to watch over there was that as these people got deeper into the imagination of Orly Taitz and other birthers, they became utterly resistant to actual facts about how our legal system or system of government operates, and retreated deeper into a fantasy world which immunized them against any rational argument.
Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)Isn't he like a jazz musician or something?
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)onenote
(42,703 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)I'm not sure whether the motivation is to make fools of people or just to amuse herself.
tritsofme
(17,378 posts)Heard it here first!
FSogol
(45,485 posts)Foamfollower
(1,097 posts)Mensch is a fucking moron!
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)womanofthehills
(8,709 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)flyingfysh
(1,990 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)JenniferJuniper
(4,512 posts)I'm not sure they ever will.
She's probably having a giggle with Milo somewhere right now....
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)with a couple of indictments and probably more on the way once Meuller gets rolling, so I wouldn't rule out action on the election front entirely. Anyway here's hoping it's all not some kind of RW psyop.
nini
(16,672 posts)I cant believe anyone takes her seriously.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)I just don't know why.
nini
(16,672 posts)I'm getting to the point where I don't even know what to say with half of this crap going on
Stand and Fight
(7,480 posts)It may not be popular to say on here, but I think she's intentionally doing this. For what end? To keep people distracted. She's full of shit.
Stand and Fight
(7,480 posts)Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)... about a conspiracy theory which explains why she would conspire to troll the left with outlandish conspiracy theories. Theoretically, at least.
How very British.
Fwiw, I agree 100% with you.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)Milo was lying about that -- and the proof that this was July is the hotel ballroom they were in. Louise Mensch is a never-trumper and she never supported his victory with the Republicans.
Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)... I'm almost always in agreement with your posts/takes.
But not on Mensch. She may or may not have highly placed sources, they may or may not be trolling her, she may or may not be operating a counter insurgency against the democrats, she may or may not be working for the Russians, or Breitbart, or Trump. I don't know.
But I do know that, historically, she has been no friend to progressives or our concerns, that much of what she says is not accurate, that she says things that seem to be aimed at generating publicity, and that she quickly drops back to "opinion" when it seems she overstated an event or story. There was one about a Supreme Court Marshall serving papers to the president on the tarmac... Really? And one about some huge tactical plan being approved to take many people into custody - blocking streets and stuff. That is all pure conspiracy-esque.
I hope they do frog-march the whole cabal out of the White House and Capitol building. But the more Louise says that's going to happen, the less I tend to believe it. I think I'm almost never wrong, but my wife would surely dispute that. And if I'm wrong about Louise, I will buy you a drink to celebrate my wrongness (since I'll be as happy about it as you).
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)that was supposedly pictured.
That photo was taken in July, not in an event after the November election. Milo was lying. She was a never-trumper who supported Evan McMullin, the independent.
Stand and Fight
(7,480 posts)pnwmom
(108,978 posts)is not of the location of the hotel where Milo and the Republicans -- not Louise -- celebrated after the election. It is the hotel where Milo and Louise were in July.
Stand and Fight
(7,480 posts)She is not in my opinion, and not just on the basis of that photo. Have a great day.
nini
(16,672 posts)I hadn't seen that before - and I'm not surprised.
wishstar
(5,269 posts)Not surprising she is quoting Palast, since she is using his playbook of raising false hopes for publicity and donations.
Going back to Bush/Gore 16 years ago, I have learned to ignore Palast who was elevated and almost revered by those desperately hoping for exposure of election fraud, when instead he was found to have exaggerated making unsubstantiated claims that lead nowhere.
nini
(16,672 posts)Same type of stuff.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)people just can't IGNORE Mensch if you don't find her helpful or reliable? Do we really need daily (sometimes hourly) threads about this woman? I follow her on twitter, takes what she posts with a grain of salt and forget about it - what the fuck is the big deal about it? She's getting ZERO attention from the MSM so why does she get everyone's knickers in a knot here?
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)okieinpain
(9,397 posts)yes i hear all the complaints about her but there is something funny going on and I just think the russians have figured out something that no one thinks is possible.
but i understand people should not get all worked up for something that isn't going to happen.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)As an idiot, I make myself feel smarter by pointing out who I believe are other idiots.
I'm sure you'll allege a much different reason though...