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BigmanPigman

(51,593 posts)
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 01:55 AM Jun 2017

Do you think "he" even loves his country? I really don't think so.

The more I read and see, everything he says and does has me convinced of this. How can we have a president who doesn't deep down love the country he is supposed to represent, promote and defend? I know he was never a big flag waving patriot but I doubt he really cares about the US and what it IS to be an American. I guess I've been watching too much Ken Burns Iately.

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Do you think "he" even loves his country? I really don't think so. (Original Post) BigmanPigman Jun 2017 OP
No, I don't think so. iamateacher Jun 2017 #1
I never thought for a moment that he even likes this country and to love it? NO Doreen Jun 2017 #2
2 thoughts.. ! furtheradu Jun 2017 #3
He loves nothing. Deep down, I think he even loathes himself. n/t moonscape Jun 2017 #4
+ a million. mhw Jun 2017 #6
I think so, too. Self-loathing and takes it OUT on everyone else. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2017 #7
No. mhw Jun 2017 #5
A lot of this was sheer desperation. Jacquette Jun 2017 #8
Comrade.... LSFL Jun 2017 #9
To Trump, the US is nothing more than a business-opportunity, an economic arena. DetlefK Jun 2017 #10
No. murielm99 Jun 2017 #11
That's what the RW would say about Obama oberliner Jun 2017 #12
No Trump only loves himself UCmeNdc Jun 2017 #13
No, he doesn't. Solly Mack Jun 2017 #14
It almost feels as though Dorian Gray Jun 2017 #15
A Democratic Party majority in the House of Representatives will save the United States UCmeNdc Jun 2017 #16
He loves it in the way a vampire loves it's victim. nt Javaman Jun 2017 #17
There is no evidence that he has ever loved anything or anyone, other than himself and his wealth. Orsino Jun 2017 #18
He loves his bank account, and himself MiniMe Jun 2017 #19
He only cares about self aggrandizement. lpbk2713 Jun 2017 #20

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
2. I never thought for a moment that he even likes this country and to love it? NO
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 02:09 AM
Jun 2017

I have seen this...a....uhm...yeah....thing for many years doing and saying horrible things. Unlike some people ( who voted for him ) I knew about him before the Apprentice. I just remember people being all gaga over him because he was the man on the Apprentice. They did not study him before casting their vote and they got someone who only loves himself and never this country.

 

Jacquette

(152 posts)
8. A lot of this was sheer desperation.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 02:57 AM
Jun 2017

Trump, Kushner...both of them are barely hanging on financially.

It's clear to me now that certain types; certain AMERICAN types will do anything...bar nothing, to keep that illusion of wealth and status going. Money laundering, computer crimes, treason and even murder if it came down to it. They saw this as a business opportunity. A chance to make a fortune off the presidency and get out from under crushing debt at the same time.

I doubt the fact they were committing treason even entered their minds. At least as a deterrent.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
10. To Trump, the US is nothing more than a business-opportunity, an economic arena.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 05:03 AM
Jun 2017

He regards it as nothing more than an economic environment in which he operates.

He has proven over and over again that he cares neither about its history, nor its traditions, nor its laws.

murielm99

(30,741 posts)
11. No.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 05:11 AM
Jun 2017

Narcissists are capable only of self-love. They imitate others to see how that
emotion should be expressed.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
12. That's what the RW would say about Obama
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 05:27 AM
Jun 2017

Let's not go there. Let's focus our attacks on policies, corruption, etc.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
13. No Trump only loves himself
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 05:33 AM
Jun 2017

Trump's businesses are part of his self love. The United States is only good for being used as an object to promote his self interests.

Solly Mack

(90,767 posts)
14. No, he doesn't.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 05:42 AM
Jun 2017

Like many, he sees America and Americans as just another resource to exploit.

He's lazy in that he had the opportunity to learn other languages and to travel as a means of broadening his reach - even if not his mind - and chose not to do either. Because he's scared and satisfied to sit in New York (now D.C.) and bark orders.

He's scared of the world because he knows he falls short - but in America, he was seen as a success.

A big man in America - but a America he sees as a means and not a country. Using Americans as a means and not as people.

Look how they all exploit workers in other countries - they see Americans as no better.

He has no loyalty to anything or anyone outside his carefully nurtured circle of sycophants (to include his kids) - and any love he feels is the same kind of love he has when he speaks of loving the uneducated.

And that's not love.







Dorian Gray

(13,496 posts)
15. It almost feels as though
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 06:39 AM
Jun 2017

the agenda of his presidency was to reduce the dignity of the executive arm of our government. He's succeeded in less than half a year. Imagine all the damage he will do in the future.

Lord knows I have not agreed with every president before him. But they were all willing to work within the framework of our laws. This guy is a loud-mouth buffoonish godzilla knocking everything down, accidentally, with his tail.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
16. A Democratic Party majority in the House of Representatives will save the United States
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 07:06 AM
Jun 2017

Trump is self absorbed. The GOP house majority is supporting Trump's self absorption. Only a newly elected majority of Democratic Party house members in 2018 can save the United States from Donald Trump.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
18. There is no evidence that he has ever loved anything or anyone, other than himself and his wealth.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 10:25 AM
Jun 2017

And I'm not sure about himself. Every one of his attacks seems only to be projection. He is deeply insecure.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
20. He only cares about self aggrandizement.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 11:12 AM
Jun 2017



He comes first, even above close family members. Everything else is just silly sentimentality.

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