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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy aren't you reaching out to Trump Supporters?
This post isn't for the purposes of finger pointing.
It's for the purpose of validation.
I want you to explain the moment you realized that, unfortunately, it really is fruitless to try having a discussion with a Trump Supporter.
Bonus points though, if you can mention a glimmer of hope where you were surprised because damn it, my light of hope will not be fully buried!
I'll go first.
I just witnessed a debate about net neutrality evolve into a discussion about the Paris climate agreement that then went over to the topic of Trump being a sexual predator. I witnessed this and intervened at times. But another voice of sanity clearly had the floor and did it well.
Here's how it went.
The Trump Supporter tried making their argument with memes and videos. Easily consumed media that requires little attention span you know? Does all the thinking for you.
The voices of reason combated with well written paragraphs and paragraphs of their own along with citations and articles. Things that require critical thinking.
This constantly devolved into the trumper claiming that the other was quoting fake news and spinning the truth. The Trump supporter mocked and insulted regularly as well. But he stood his ground.
Eventually when it got to the topic of Trump and the concept of Consent, I was floored. The trumper claimed the media took Trump's words on that bus out of context and spun it the wrong way.
The voice of reason easily posted the incriminating video along with a transcript of written words and asked, "how is that spun?"
I just knew the trumper was cornered in this. There it was, from Trump's own mouth, not the media, no spin.
But lo and behold... The trump supporter then claimed this... To paraphrase, "nobody gives a fuck about the regressive left's definition of consent. What do we need, signed contracts to have sex now? Clearly you've never been with a woman"
So in one line, he changed the argument to being the left's fault regarding the definition of a fucking word. Then exaggerated and mocked the idea of consent requiring paperwork and then mocked the other user.
Believe me, he then degenerated into a child that only knew the word "cuck" from that moment on.
That's when I truly gave up. Trump's own words cannot incriminate him to these people.
The glimmer of hope I had one time was the Trump supporter that said "climate change is real and you can't deny science. I really hope Trump changes his opinion on that."
Your turn.
superpatriotman
(6,249 posts)Their support tells me all I need to know about them. I don't approach poisonous snakes, and I know better to approach Twitler fans.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)It happened and I was a bystander that threw in some words a time or two.
hatrack
(59,587 posts)Like removing individual crabgrass stems from my lawn with a pair of tweezers.
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)And I'm not very good at making convincing arguments using only grunts and snorts.
SDJay
(1,089 posts)I want them walking around for the rest of their lives with the stain of this scumbag tattooed to them unless they issue full mea culpas, which none of them will.
Especially now, as the walls are cracking and crumbling and Uday is saying Ds are not even human, I want them to wear this, own this and live with this almost as if they too were part of this historically awful family.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)cry baby
(6,682 posts)I believe he said that to hannity.
The Hill has a story on it, as well as Newsweek.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)When you can't face your enemy, pretend they are lesser than.
Wimps.
cry baby
(6,682 posts)In the same interview, he called Tom Perez a wackjob then decried the namecalling from democrats.
I wonder what color is the sky in their alternative universe.
I think my favorite part is that this scum, who steals from children with cancer and whose father is a serial philanderer among many other things, is whining about lack of morals.
The orange doesn't fall far from the tree on that one.
HAB911
(8,892 posts)I told one 'friend' that Trump was crazy and he said, "no more than Obama" and another told me the financial crisis was Obama's fault because he was elected in 2004.
gordianot
(15,238 posts)Never mind Trump is not really a businessman he juggles assets and scams marks. Also, he has some talent for money laundering. So what he is a crook they are all crooks. There is no reasoning with Trump hard core supporters.
janterry
(4,429 posts)are those that scream at me while I'm driving with a Bernie sticker on the back of my Prius.
I'm a middle-aged woman - and I've been honked at and yelled at 4 times while driving . Frankly, it frightens me (at first I assume that I have made mistake on the road - or I have a flat tire). My daughter has been with me and just shakes her head and says: they are yelling Trump won.
mreilly
(2,120 posts)... they all recite the exact same talking points and insults, since they're mindless automatons who just dutifully repeat whatever shit they've been handed.
They could literally just copy and paste this sentence into every one of their moronic replies:
"LIBTARD BUTTHURT SNOWFLAKE GO FIND A SAFE SPACE TRIGGERED DRINK THE KOOL AID SORE LOSERS GET OVER IT CUCKS. HILLARY BENGHAZI CLINTON FOUNDATION OBUMMER SOCALIST KENYAN ALL HIS FAULT"
Same shit, over and over. They have zero individuality; I just think of them as one collective entity called "Trump Troll."
Don't waste your time with this walking excrement. They are beyond reason, decency or redemption.
maryellen99
(3,789 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)maryellen99
(3,789 posts)Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts). . . is already enough of an indictment on their behalf.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I think it is a complete waste of time to work on people still claiming they support Trump.
cry baby
(6,682 posts)and "they're ALL crooks in Washington" and "well, we DO want to be friends with Russia, don't we?" and "that's just fake news."
Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)You tried anyway. I go with logic and reason and Trump humpers lose their shit. You can't get anywhere with most of them. And as a woman, they really show their insecurities. I was having an exchange between liberals and conservatives, all men and myself. We were discussing Trump's tweets. The conservative was blaming the media for focusing on them. I said since he has chosen Twitter as a main method of communication, there is going to be focus and he has to take responsibility for that. He said nothing. One of the liberal guys said that Trump's primary communication is Twitter and as the President it carries weight. He at least considered his response but started spouting off about the media and the New World order/one world government. Paranoia runs deep.
Orrex
(63,212 posts)Thereby they reveal themselves as idiot racist fuckheads, and they do not want our deserve our outreach. Fuck every last one of those stupid fuckers.
I applaud your attempt to speak to that idiot racist fuckhead as if he were a competent human being. I have made the same effort and in every case found the effort wasted.
They do no need our outreach. They need to be quarantined.