Cenk Uygur trashes Dem Party

[angrychair]

Look I made clear during the primaries that I was 100% Sanders. When Clinton won, I supported here 100% and even campaigned for her. Why? Because I knew that trump was a raging shit show and no matter my differences with Clinton, she was hands down superior in every way to trump. That choosing Clinton mattered more than differences that would need to be worked on, there would be no instant gratification. I say that because people like Cenk are not just targeting Clinton but the entire Dem Party. Feeding republican trolls and causing us problems leading up to mid-terms that we CANNOT afford. Fuck you Cenk Uygur. Asshole.
On the day of Comey's testimony, when republicans spent their whole time trying to make it about Clinton, Cenk Uygur makes it is mission to trash the Dem Party and attack Clinton.

Link to tweet

[apcalc]

1. People like him are the reason we have Twitler.

No good Dem should pay a rat's ass bit of attention to him.

[Hortensis]

30. No good Dem does pay a rat's ass bit of attention to him.

Some who do are just young and ignorant, but those'll sort themselves out eventually.

The radical-to-far lefties, who are claiming to be oh, SO "concerned" about the Democratic Party and oh, SO "concerned" need for "reform," are having what they imagine is their moment. Blaming the liberals and moderates who have the power they want, when, of course, many of them DID vote for Rump, or didn't vote at all, not that they care to admit it.

If I had to choose between far-left and far-right hells, I guess I'd have to choose the left. But, they'd still both be hells.

[FSogol]

2. What a surprise.

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[Initech]

3. TYT is officially dead to me now.

I'm so sick of the Democratic bashing I could puke. This is why we have Trump.

[Squinch]

4. Sigh...Again? The guy needs a hobby. Maybe knitting.

[ProudLib72]

5. Needs Maxine to give him a lesson

Throw him over a building, Maxine! Young Turks are all lightweights.

[wryter2000]

6. K&R

Right here with you.

[obamanut2012]

7. TYT have always been reactionary trolls

It was founded by Armenian Genocide denier, for god's sake.

I have never understood why they are progressive darlings.

[dalton99a]

8. +1

[Scurrilous]

9. Comey Day unsettled him.

[awesomerwb1]

10. We need to stop the criticism and come together

I AM NOT at all pleased with the dems. I'm pretty pissed off at the leadership tbh.

But all these public whining, Hillary, Biden, Bernie each pulling a different way is harming the party and helping to keep the reps afloat.

I would love it if someone brought everyone together and pushed everyone in the same direction. But.....

[Demsrule86]

46. Vote Democratic...that is all that is needed...no matter what

there is never a Republican candidate who would do better...and if you don't then get ready for a true horror show.

[awesomerwb1]

48. Voting Dem is a given....

but nobody likes being taken for granted as a voter. This is already a horror show, and if the dems don't get their sh*t together - I can't even think what could happen.

[Demsrule86]

65. Sadly voting Dem is not a given... if it were the orange nightmare would

be in New York not Washington...and those who whined about corporate Clinton and couldn't bring themselves to vote for her... just watched as the GOP house they helped elect took down Dodd-Frank.

[Gothmog]

11. Who cares?

[BBG]

12. Ummm, did you read the article?

The tweet was for an opinion piece written by someone else. This thread seems to be a bit reactionary for no good reason.

[angrychair]

16. Really, based on what?

Cenk supportered the article. The Tweet was in support of it. Read replies to it.

Read other things that he and his TYT panel have posted recently. He is no friend of the Dem Party and want it demolished and has said as much.

[m-lekktor]

27. It was actually an interesting piece if one is serious about fixing what is possibly wrong

and winning future elections. Thanks for mentioning this or i would have ignored this thread and not seen it

[Demsrule86]

43. His ideas would lead to huge losses.

This is probably what he wants.

[Eliot Rosewater]

51. It is, he works for Putin, so does a famous lefty talk show host.

When everybody finds out how many russian agents are here, who they are, the jaws will be dropping

Stein works for Putin as well.

Greenwald, yep.

Many more.

Several politicians that I wont name.

[Demsrule86]

64. I know who you mean, and I cancelled Sirius radio as I won't listen to that drivel nor pay

for it...anti Democratic Party callers allowed to spew without interference.

[QC]

63. Possibly, if you're the sort of person who likes fancypants stuff like

"issues" and "policies" and "proposals" and "making the world better."

Me, I'll just stick to calling down fire and brimstone on heretics. It's much easier and more fun.

[Demsrule86]

42. Cent can fuck himself...I have no interest in anything he suggests...he

takes money from the GOP...he should join that party and stop pretending

[angrychair]

58. FYI

It was Cenk that wrote "Democratic Party has learned nothing from this" in regards to a NY Times Op-Ed that is complete trash. Boiled down it states we should become a centrist, slightly less racist, Republican-lite Party.

[QC]

62. "reactionary for no good reason"

That's pretty much the entire ethos of this place lately, which is very unfortunate.

[WillowTree]

13. He does that a lot.

[CentralMass]

14. Well, we aren't in great shape.

[Demsrule86]

44. And people like Cent are a lot of the reason why...

that and the Russians and Comey ...and out and out cheating...keep in mind less than 70,000 votes would have shifted the electoral college...and we won the popular vote and look at Feingold in Wisconsin if you think a more 'progressive candidate would have done better...there is nothing wrong with this party...big tent party with many great folks in it...fuck Cent and all those who pretend they want to help the Democratic Party by ripping it to shreds just in time for 18 and 20...with friends like that we sure as hell don't need enemies.

[NCTraveler]

15. Their target audience is a state of being.

I know that sounds strange but it is what it is. Their audience is LIV's who stay in a constant state of opposition to everything.

[NurseJackie]

17. (Help.) What's a "LIV"?

[NCTraveler]

19. Low Information Voter

[NurseJackie]

21. Thank you!

[NastyRiffraff]

18. What's new?

Cenk never loses an opportunity to trash Dems.

[DFW]

20. Declining relevance does odd things to some people

Some try to be creative and regain it. Others lash out and blame anyone they can, hoping to re-acquire a dissipating audience. Shrillness is usually an indication of the latter tactic ("of coooooooooooooourse&quot .

İyi geceler, Cenk.

[NurseJackie]

22. Goodnight, indeed! But, he's still got his big GOP angels and benefactors....

... at least he won't go hungry.

[DFW]

35. I don't think he'll like the company long term

Even he might find he's tired of getting up with fleas after a while.

[seaglass]

23. He runs Justice Democrats. That says it all to me. n/t

[JTFrog]

50. Exactly. Shocking, isn't it?

As if that shit isn't 100% transparent by now.

[NurseJackie]

24. Thanks for posting this and for the link...

(Excerpt) ===================================
Feeding republican trolls and causing us problems leading up to mid-terms that we CANNOT afford. Fuck you Cenk Uygur. Asshole.
===================================

You've expressed my feelings perfectly. That's also the exact word I'd use to describe ANYONE who smears, attacks, denigrates, and trashes Democrats or the Democratic Party.

He's in it for the money. He's an opportunist. He's a mercenary.

Fuck him!

[alarimer]

25. He didn't write the fucking article

You might try reading for a change.

Pointing out obvious problems is NOT TRASHING. Anyone refusing to acknowledge the issues is just whistling past the graveyard at this point. And refusing to do anything about it is a losing proposition. Because being "not Trump" or "not Republican" is not good enough. It wasn't in 2016 and it won't be in 2018.

Jesus Christ, can none of you read a fucking article because it was posted by someone you hate? Is that what it's come to? Seems awfully kneejerk to me.

[BeyondGeography]

28. Yup; lots to take seriously in that article

[Quixote1818]

29. Agree 100%.

It's really just a few here on DU making a lot of noise but their posts rarely get more than a few recommendations showing most of DU is not in agreement. Mostly those who were upset TYT endorsed Sanders rather than Hillary even though they went full throttle for Hillary once she got the nomination.

[bagelsforbreakfast]

37. +1 n/m

[m-lekktor]

26. Cenk linked to an interesting piece by Thomas Edsall about the state of the DEM party

post election. It's very interesting, thanks for posting or I wouldn't have seen it.

[theaocp]

45. +1 agreed this is a hit piece

fueled by kneejerk bias against Cenk. You cannot fix your flaws if you ignore them. That we do is why we lose.

[MiddleClass]

31. My understanding is that he went for Clinton

Unlike other Bernie people that went for Stein

, I'm not too up on the Democrats Civil War.

But I've heard jackasses like HA Goodman

[Voltaire2]

32. This op is just wrong.

The article is by Thomas B. Edsall not Cenk. The article is not "trash(ing) Dem Party", it is analyzing the election results and noting how we failed and what we need to do to succeed.

[bagelsforbreakfast]

38. again + 1 - I did read it...

And I think people should. Thomas Frank also has gone over this. I'd like to see the Republicans thrown out; keeping heads in the sand won't help that.

[angrychair]

47. With all due respect

The article is ridiculous. It is not the answer to the Democratic Party's issues anymore than Trump being the answer that those voters were seeking.

The article boils down to the point that in order to be successful that the Dem Party needs to be more centrist, more racist and more Christian-focused, in other words a center-right watered down Republican Party.
Fuck that.

Sorry, trump and republicans are not going to give those that voted for them any satisfaction or improve their lives. Hate, racism and religious zealotry is not going to help us win elections.

As a white male, I find this crying about "black people get all the advantages now" is bullshit.

Illegal immigrants make up 4% of the population, majority employed in jobs most whites would not do at any price (ask AL among others). Blaming 4% of the population for your problems, be it economic or social, is not a campaign issue, it is an education issue, because it's pure ignorance.

Sorry, not buying the "become republican-lite" as the answer.

[angrychair]

49. All due respect

The article is ridiculous. It is not the answer to the Democratic Party's issues anymore than Trump being the answer that those voters were seeking.

The article boils down to the point that in order to be successful that the Dem Party needs to be more centrist, more racist and more Christian-focused, in other words a center-right watered down Republican Party.
Fuck that.

Sorry, trump and republicans are not going to give those that voted for them any satisfaction or improve their lives. Hate, racism and religious zealotry is not going to help us win elections.

As a white male, I find this crying about "black people get all the advantages now" is bullshit. It's a lie. Things are not disparately in favor of people of color. What this article does is allow trump and republicans to control the narrative and engender the very racist myth that people of color get all the advantages now. These type of conversations do nothing to solve real issues that exist in hiring, housing, law enforcement and justice for people of color.

Illegal immigrants make up 4% of the population, majority employed in jobs most whites would not do at any price (ask AL among others). Blaming 4% of the population for your problems, be it economic or social, is not a campaign issue, it is an education issue, because it's pure ignorance.

Sorry, not buying the "become republican-lite" as the answer.

[GoCubsGo]

34. So, what else is new?

[geek tragedy]

36. not a fan of his, but this seems off-base

he's linking to a NY Times piece by a guy who's very serious about this stuff (Tom Edsall)

[Cal Carpenter]

39. Misleading thread title. He didn't write that piece.

Why post about Cenk Uygur instead of the guy who actually wrote the article for the NY Times?

This thread makes no sense. A giant pile-on of someone who shared a link as though he was the one who wrote the editorial (which is actually pretty extensive and nuanced).

I have no strong opinion of Cenk Uygur - the only things I know about TYT is what I read here. I'm just pointing out what I'm seeing.

[angrychair]

40. Context is important

I never said he wrote it. He has been piling onto the Dem Party for months and dumping on the Party over the last couple of days and really feeding the republican trolls by talking to some of their narratives.

We don't need that on a day in which eveR republican on that panel all but ignored the actual reason Comey was there and instead tried to make it about Clinton. Tried of that crap.
We cannot keep stabbing ourselves in our own back. We have to regain control of the house and senate and get trump out of office.

[R B Garr]

53. +1, they are their own versions of fake news. They have an alternate reality they can't

let go of, and they are very RW in their approach that anyone dealing with actual reality isn't progressive enough (or patriotic enough as the fake news RW'ers use). It's quite a racket.

[KeepItReal]

55. Yeah, the article's actual writer is Thomas Edsall of the NYT and Columbia U.

He seems pretty thorough in the post-mortem that he wrote.

His wiki even says he's a "liberal/progressive" .

[angrychair]

59. Here is another example of TYT screwing Dems

Link to tweet

[KeepItReal]

60. The same Sen. Booker that voted against drug reimportation (before he voted for it)?

And dissed President Obama as being too hard on Wall Street?

And got money from Jared Kushner?

[angrychair]

61. Ok, dings i will give you that

But ProgressivePunch rates him as having the 5th most progressive voting record in Congress 98% lifetime score, 99% this year.
Yes, room for improvement but what I posted from TYT is not constructive criticism but a spiteful dig. Not helpful.
http://progressivepunch.org/scores.htm?house=senate

[nikibatts]

41. Let's not re-litigate the election BUT we all know why there was "declining turnout among minority,

young and single voters. They were listening to the like of Chenk, Nina, Susan and others who wrapped themselves in the fake news, the mis and disinformation all tied up with the 'hate Hillary' ribbon.

[cwydro]

52. An ugly attention troll.

No one cares what he says.

[kimbutgar]

54. I just want to know who is funding him and his show?

[KeepItReal]

57. (Raises hand)

I joined TYT about the same time, or a little after, I joined DU. During the bad ole Bush days.

[Docreed2003]

56. Cenk is a republican turned democrat...

On many issues I like TYT...but the aftermath of the primaries turned me off to some of their voices. I still listen because most of them are a vibrant, young, liberal mouthpiece countering the right, but it's still hard to swallow what some of their staff did to Sec Clinton...even after the nomination.

[Foamfollower]

67. HE's another fucking Ed Schultz.

I expect him to start being carried by RT any day now.

[Docreed2003]

68. Agreed...after the primary, it's hard to take anything Cenk says seriously

[Foamfollower]

66. Cenk Uygar is a piece of shit.