NYTimes: The Presidents Lies

[spanone]

Weeks after being described by Donald Trump as a “nut job,” James Comey on Thursday deftly recast his confrontation with the president as a clash between the legal principles at the foundation of American democracy, and a venal, self-interested politician who does not recognize, let alone uphold, them.

In sworn testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee, Mr. Comey, the former F.B.I. director, made clear that he had no confidence in the president’s integrity. Why? “The nature of the person,” he said. Confronted with low presidential character for the first time in his career, Mr. Comey began writing meticulous notes of every conversation with Mr. Trump. “I was honestly concerned that he might lie about the nature of our meeting,” he said.

Mr. Comey said he was stunned during one Oval Office meeting by Mr. Trump’s request — which he very reasonably understood as an order — to drop the F.B.I. investigation into Michael Flynn. Mr. Flynn had been forced to resign as national security adviser the day before, after lying about his contacts with Russia. And Russia, Mr. Comey usefully reminded the senators, had gone to unprecedented lengths to disrupt the 2016 presidential election, using “overwhelming” technological firepower.

“This is about America,” Mr. Comey kept saying. Russia “tried to shape the way we think, we vote, we act — that is a big deal,” he added. “They’re coming after America. ... They want to undermine our credibility in the face of the world.”

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/08/opinion/james-comey-senate-testimony.html

[Yonnie3]

1. I had a double take at the first sentence.

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Ninth week? It's only the ninth week! It seems like years to me.

Or 20 weeks

[csziggy]

11. That editorial is from MARCH 20, 2017

But it is still true.

[trusty elf]

2. ....

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[Dread Pirate Roberts]

3. But Obama told me I could keep my doctor!

I got the million dollar heart operation I needed to keep me alive and it was paid for but I had to change my podiatrist because of Obamacare. I really loved the way that guy looked at my toes. That lying bastard. So,why are we talking about Trump lying when I couldn't keep my doctor? (that's made up sarcasm for the terminally earnest among you)

[Yonnie3]

4. I kept my doctors and don't call me Earnest!

[csziggy]

16. Is your real name John Worthing or perhaps Algernon Moncrieff?

[Yonnie3]

18. Call me anything, but dont call me late for dinner. :) nt

[csziggy]

21. So long as you understand the importance of *not* being Earnest! nt

[kairos12]

23. Great post. Thanks.

[mopinko]

5. he used the word lies several times.

what is this- he didnt use the word?

[Yonnie3]

6. I'm guessing the "L-word" reference is for the word liar.

Comey said "lie" multiple times in reference to the White House and tRump. He didn't directly say tRump is a liar. In my opinion a distinction with no merit.

[mopinko]

7. exactly.

[Yonnie3]

8. Reading it again, I find I'm wrong.

It says Comey did not use the L-word in Monday's testimony. Monday? This is an op-ed from March 20, 2017. The OP is pointing out how testimony changed.

[Kolesar]

9. George W. Bush *did* lie when he said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction

I don't recall that the "intelligence community" backed up that "aluminum tubes" comment.

[Scurrilous]

10. K&R

[Solly Mack]

12. "George W. Bush didnt lie when he said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction"??????

[BumRushDaShow]

13. Editorial from March but now Comey HAS used the "L-word"

[spanone]

14. not from march...today's new york times

[BumRushDaShow]

15. Your link goes to something that says "March 20, 2017".

Here is the link that you need to use - https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/08/opinion/james-comey-senate-testimony.html

[spanone]

17. you're right...sorry it linked to a story from march....my bad

here is the link it was supposed to go to: yikes!

Weeks after being described by Donald Trump as a “nut job,” James Comey on Thursday deftly recast his confrontation with the president as a clash between the legal principles at the foundation of American democracy, and a venal, self-interested politician who does not recognize, let alone uphold, them.

In sworn testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee, Mr. Comey, the former F.B.I. director, made clear that he had no confidence in the president’s integrity. Why? “The nature of the person,” he said. Confronted with low presidential character for the first time in his career, Mr. Comey began writing meticulous notes of every conversation with Mr. Trump. “I was honestly concerned that he might lie about the nature of our meeting,” he said.

Mr. Comey said he was stunned during one Oval Office meeting by Mr. Trump’s request — which he very reasonably understood as an order — to drop the F.B.I. investigation into Michael Flynn. Mr. Flynn had been forced to resign as national security adviser the day before, after lying about his contacts with Russia. And Russia, Mr. Comey usefully reminded the senators, had gone to unprecedented lengths to disrupt the 2016 presidential election, using “overwhelming” technological firepower.

“This is about America,” Mr. Comey kept saying. Russia “tried to shape the way we think, we vote, we act — that is a big deal,” he added. “They’re coming after America. ... They want to undermine our credibility in the face of the world.”

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/08/opinion/james-comey-senate-testimony.html

[BumRushDaShow]

19. That's cool. You can edit your OP too.

I was surprised they used similar editorial headlines although obviously that's a popular term and fits!

[Yonnie3]

20. It had me confused for a while, but that's easy. :) nt

[kairos12]

22. All of this constitutes an Alternative Fact universe which is a clear and present danger to us.