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Horrific high rise fire in residential building in London. (Original Post) hrmjustin Jun 2017 OP
Just saw it on Brian Williams GP6971 Jun 2017 #1
Terrible! SweetieD Jun 2017 #2
There are no words - I so hope people were notified and led to safety.. asiliveandbreathe Jun 2017 #3
any idea what happened ? the reports of people jumping reminded me of 9/11 JI7 Jun 2017 #4
A UK live feed interviewed a resident. Says his neighbors fridge "exploded" rainbow4321 Jun 2017 #22
There is a blog detailing almost a year of violations.. HipChick Jun 2017 #5
Saw that - looks horrendous! The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #6
Everyone did not get out malaise Jun 2017 #26
Guardian link. :( uppityperson Jun 2017 #7
live broadcast on youtube. no need for link to tweet nt msongs Jun 2017 #8
Link Warpy Jun 2017 #9
Great Link, Warpy!!! Thanks!!! n/t TomJulie Jun 2017 #18
From what I am watching live, it would appear that this neighborhood Mrs. Overall Jun 2017 #10
I see what you did there.... HipChick Jun 2017 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author hrmjustin Jun 2017 #12
Started on second floor. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #13
Documented fire risk from 2013... HipChick Jun 2017 #15
I hope they go after the landlord. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #16
He has several buildings too... HipChick Jun 2017 #17
It's owned by the local council, and managed by a tenant-controlled company muriel_volestrangler Jun 2017 #21
Resident interviewed just now said his neighbor's fridge on 4th floor "exploded" rainbow4321 Jun 2017 #23
Sky news feed noted that one resident is still clearly in view MissB Jun 2017 #14
Really? Good Gosh!! n/t TomJulie Jun 2017 #19
They said 1/4 of a side was untouched by fire so far. MissB Jun 2017 #20
Does ANyone Know how the Fire could have spread so fast ? JI7 Jun 2017 #24
Probably styrofoam facade insulation boards :/ Ezior Jun 2017 #25
I wonder if the sprinkler system was fully operational. Gravitycollapse Jun 2017 #27
There was none melman Jun 2017 #28
plastic cladding melman Jun 2017 #29

JI7

(89,281 posts)
4. any idea what happened ? the reports of people jumping reminded me of 9/11
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 11:26 PM
Jun 2017

i have never gotten over that.

rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)
22. A UK live feed interviewed a resident. Says his neighbors fridge "exploded"
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 01:52 AM
Jun 2017

The man said that he and his family were able to get out quickly because the fridge owner was knocking on doors warning people. If it was a kitchen appliance/fridge may be a wiring issue within the appliance itself or the outlet?

Another resident said there was no system wide integrated fire alarm system in the building...that each resident had to "do their own"...I assume he meant fire/smoke detector. Which explains why another man who got out with his grandmother smelled smoke and went out to the hall to see what was going on..didn't see any commotion on his floor yet, he only knew something was wrong when he saw emergency vehicles arrived and he stretched out his window to see the flames way below his floor.

malaise

(269,229 posts)
26. Everyone did not get out
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 05:01 AM
Jun 2017

Watching on BBC - people are speculating that the building was refurbished last year and they think the material used on the outside of the building may have been a contributing factor. Early days but this is bad.

Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
10. From what I am watching live, it would appear that this neighborhood
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 11:40 PM
Jun 2017

is made up of many Muslim families.

I hope this fire was not intentionally set.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
11. I see what you did there....
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 11:45 PM
Jun 2017

Actually, This is the 3rd or 4th fire incident but this is infinitely the worst..

Response to HipChick (Reply #11)

muriel_volestrangler

(101,392 posts)
21. It's owned by the local council, and managed by a tenant-controlled company
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 01:12 AM
Jun 2017

---snip---

In the early 1990s, the tenants and leaseholders of the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea decided to pursue their legal right to manage their own homes. Following two separate ballots in 1994 and 1995, the Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation (KCTMO) was established on 1 April 1996 and the responsibility for managing 9,760 properties passed from The Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea to the Tenant Management Organisation.

The Council still owns the properties and retains responsibility for strategic housing policies and homeless people. The relationship between KCTMO and the Council is governed by a Management Agreement, which covers all areas of the landlord business. Whilst KCTMO still enjoys a close working relationship with the Council, it is a completely separate company.

In 2002 KCTMO took over the responsibility for major capital works from the Council to access extra resources and funding to enable KCTMO to bring the properties up to the Decent Homes Standard.

KCTMO is managed by a Board of Directors comprising of eight elected tenant and leaseholder members, four appointed Councillor members and three independent appointed other members. The aims of the organisation are numerous, as set out by strategic objectives in a business plan each year.

KCTMO is a company limited by guarantee with members whose main residence is in Council owned or leasehold accommodation. There are currently over 4,500 members of KCTMO, and we actively encourage residents to become members. If you are interested in becoming a member, please visit the KCTMO Membership section of this website.

---snip---

http://www.kctmo.org.uk/main/8/about-us

rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)
23. Resident interviewed just now said his neighbor's fridge on 4th floor "exploded"
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 01:57 AM
Jun 2017

But, obviously, we won't know anything official for a while. He said there was no system wide integrated fire alarm just each resident having their OWN alarm in their homes. That may explain why there were still so many people in the higher up floors...the only alarm going off would have been in the apartment/flat where the fire started and they didn't realize anything was wrong til they smelled the smoke. By then the fire had probably spread far/fast.

MissB

(15,812 posts)
14. Sky news feed noted that one resident is still clearly in view
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 12:05 AM
Jun 2017

In a window, pacing back and forth and drinking water.

Ezior

(505 posts)
25. Probably styrofoam facade insulation boards :/
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 04:42 AM
Jun 2017

Some say it's common with that kind of insulation, others say it's not a problem if done correctly. I don't know.

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