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(31,226 posts)doesn't look good.
SweetieD
(1,660 posts).
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)Just don't know what to say -
JI7
(89,281 posts)i have never gotten over that.
rainbow4321
(9,974 posts)The man said that he and his family were able to get out quickly because the fridge owner was knocking on doors warning people. If it was a kitchen appliance/fridge may be a wiring issue within the appliance itself or the outlet?
Another resident said there was no system wide integrated fire alarm system in the building...that each resident had to "do their own"...I assume he meant fire/smoke detector. Which explains why another man who got out with his grandmother smelled smoke and went out to the hall to see what was going on..didn't see any commotion on his floor yet, he only knew something was wrong when he saw emergency vehicles arrived and he stretched out his window to see the flames way below his floor.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,917 posts)What could have caused a fire of that magnitude? I hope everyone got out.
malaise
(269,229 posts)Watching on BBC - people are speculating that the building was refurbished last year and they think the material used on the outside of the building may have been a contributing factor. Early days but this is bad.
uppityperson
(115,681 posts)msongs
(67,465 posts)TomJulie
(98 posts)Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)is made up of many Muslim families.
I hope this fire was not intentionally set.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Actually, This is the 3rd or 4th fire incident but this is infinitely the worst..
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hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)Residents have been predicting this nightmare for years...
https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/kctmo-playing-with-fire/
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,392 posts)---snip---
In the early 1990s, the tenants and leaseholders of the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea decided to pursue their legal right to manage their own homes. Following two separate ballots in 1994 and 1995, the Kensington and Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation (KCTMO) was established on 1 April 1996 and the responsibility for managing 9,760 properties passed from The Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea to the Tenant Management Organisation.
The Council still owns the properties and retains responsibility for strategic housing policies and homeless people. The relationship between KCTMO and the Council is governed by a Management Agreement, which covers all areas of the landlord business. Whilst KCTMO still enjoys a close working relationship with the Council, it is a completely separate company.
In 2002 KCTMO took over the responsibility for major capital works from the Council to access extra resources and funding to enable KCTMO to bring the properties up to the Decent Homes Standard.
KCTMO is managed by a Board of Directors comprising of eight elected tenant and leaseholder members, four appointed Councillor members and three independent appointed other members. The aims of the organisation are numerous, as set out by strategic objectives in a business plan each year.
KCTMO is a company limited by guarantee with members whose main residence is in Council owned or leasehold accommodation. There are currently over 4,500 members of KCTMO, and we actively encourage residents to become members. If you are interested in becoming a member, please visit the KCTMO Membership section of this website.
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http://www.kctmo.org.uk/main/8/about-us
rainbow4321
(9,974 posts)But, obviously, we won't know anything official for a while. He said there was no system wide integrated fire alarm just each resident having their OWN alarm in their homes. That may explain why there were still so many people in the higher up floors...the only alarm going off would have been in the apartment/flat where the fire started and they didn't realize anything was wrong til they smelled the smoke. By then the fire had probably spread far/fast.
MissB
(15,812 posts)In a window, pacing back and forth and drinking water.
TomJulie
(98 posts)MissB
(15,812 posts)I doubt I'd be calmly drinking water.
JI7
(89,281 posts)would that be common/uncommon ?
Ezior
(505 posts)Some say it's common with that kind of insulation, others say it's not a problem if done correctly. I don't know.