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How did the Bernie endorsed candidate do in the Virginia primary? (Original Post) LexVegas Jun 2017 OP
the election was about Virginia State Politics and the guy that won had the endorsement JI7 Jun 2017 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #19
You can't deny that Sen. Sanders campaigned very hard for Perriello and hoped to Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #19
Double post? That never happened! Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #22
Yeah Gothmog Jun 2017 #2
What does that mean? Did the Sanders guy win or not? brush Jun 2017 #3
Northam won by more than 11 points comradebillyboy Jun 2017 #4
No, the other guy - Northam - won: jonno99 Jun 2017 #5
Have any of his candidates won? brush Jun 2017 #6
none WhiteTara Jun 2017 #7
More proof he isn't helping anyone but himself. nt JTFrog Jun 2017 #13
Here is some info: jonno99 Jun 2017 #8
They are running candidates to oppose other Democrats...and can fuck off. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #27
Here's a tweet you might be interested in, brush.. Cha Jun 2017 #11
Wow! That's something to think about, Cha. His divisiveness remains a factor with AA voters. brush Jun 2017 #12
Exactly.. like we've been sayin. Cha Jun 2017 #43
Nope...it was a blow out. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #23
Well Northam did have the endorsement ... brachism Jun 2017 #9
McAuliffe has been a great governor and very progressive. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #18
This Tweet says a lot.. Cha Jun 2017 #10
Win the general DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #14
Northam is favored to win...we shall see. Traditionally Virginia does not go for the President's Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #17
It's pretty fucking disgusting, that's for sure. alarimer Jun 2017 #30
Fascinating. But... NurseJackie Jun 2017 #15
I was delighted with the result. I think Northam is a stronger candidate. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #16
Northam should steamroll Gillespie. Gillespie is essentially a sleazy lobbyist. FSogol Jun 2017 #21
Yes he should...Gillespie sucks... so that should help us. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #24
I think you are going to see more Bernie style Progressives elected in the blue west coast areas. jalan48 Jun 2017 #25
Maybe...but that means beating sitting Democrats...not an accomplishment when it risks the seat Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #28
I think we all know some serious politcal changes are needed if we are to survive. jalan48 Jun 2017 #31
I don't agree. And the idea that Democrats would not advance climate in a big way if they could Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #32
I think people who have certain political beliefs will run and the people will decide. jalan48 Jun 2017 #33
No, I say run moderates and take the majority... Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #36
The people will decide, that's how it works. Let whoever wants to run do it. jalan48 Jun 2017 #37
If a person runs against a sitting Democrat and lose the seat, the GOP is enabled which is why Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #38
+ a million lunamagica Jun 2017 #46
Wishful thinking.... Wounded Bear Jun 2017 #41
The people will decide. Present the ideas and let them choose. jalan48 Jun 2017 #42
In local and statewide races, individual endorsements by people MineralMan Jun 2017 #26
I think "the other guy" would have been an excellent representative. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #29
Rotten OP ProfessorGAC Jun 2017 #34
Please let the 2016 primary go mythology Jun 2017 #35
Some never will. n/t QC Jun 2017 #45
Divide and conquer. n/t Greybnk48 Jun 2017 #39
This makes Sanders a terrible person who should not be allowed to endorse candidates. n/t Orsino Jun 2017 #40
He makes Sweet Baby Jesus cry! QC Jun 2017 #44

JI7

(89,236 posts)
1. the election was about Virginia State Politics and the guy that won had the endorsement
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 11:57 PM
Jun 2017

of most Virginia democratic officials so he won.

elections are often about state and local politics so what cable news is discussing or what is important to some other town or state is not always the same with other places.

i always tell people if they want different elected officials they need to go to the people in that officials district/state and find out from them why they support that person and what issues are important to them.

Response to JI7 (Reply #1)

Demsrule86

(68,454 posts)
19. You can't deny that Sen. Sanders campaigned very hard for Perriello and hoped to
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:22 AM
Jun 2017

encourage his (young) voters to turn out...there were many "Our revolution" types on the ground...but the voters didn't turn out. Perriello was endorsed by both Warren and Sanders. There is a message somewhere in there.

Demsrule86

(68,454 posts)
22. Double post? That never happened!
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:26 AM
Jun 2017

I would add that there is no reason to believe that Sen. Sanders or Warren endorsements for that matter works in moderate or red states...as all of his picks have gone down. I mention this only to reinforce the idea that we need a big tent with a diversity of views in order to take the majority in Congress. Northam is very liberal and has run strongly against Trump. They both did.

Demsrule86

(68,454 posts)
27. They are running candidates to oppose other Democrats...and can fuck off.
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:30 AM
Jun 2017

I would not give them a wooden nickel.

brush

(53,724 posts)
12. Wow! That's something to think about, Cha. His divisiveness remains a factor with AA voters.
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:07 AM
Jun 2017

He maybe needs to stand down as his endorsement is popular with his die-hards, with others, not so much.

This split doesn't bode well for 2018 which is the last thing we need.

A certain Dem-bashing non-Dem continues to be a problem.

brachism

(82 posts)
9. Well Northam did have the endorsement ...
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 02:51 AM
Jun 2017

Ralph Northam did have the endorsement of Virginia political establishment, but mostly importantly the endorsement of the next president of the United States, Terry McAuliffe.

Demsrule86

(68,454 posts)
17. Northam is favored to win...we shall see. Traditionally Virginia does not go for the President's
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:18 AM
Jun 2017

party...the only exception was When President Obama was re-elected in 12...and we had Governor ultrasound running.

Demsrule86

(68,454 posts)
16. I was delighted with the result. I think Northam is a stronger candidate.
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:16 AM
Jun 2017

Perhaps now, some will admit...that one size does not fit all in terms of candidates...and economics are important but so are other things...and we need a big tent approach.

FSogol

(45,428 posts)
21. Northam should steamroll Gillespie. Gillespie is essentially a sleazy lobbyist.
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:24 AM
Jun 2017

Northam needs to tie Trumpy and all the GOP corruption around Gillespie's neck.

jalan48

(13,834 posts)
25. I think you are going to see more Bernie style Progressives elected in the blue west coast areas.
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:29 AM
Jun 2017

The west will lead the way for change-not the conservative southern states.

Demsrule86

(68,454 posts)
28. Maybe...but that means beating sitting Democrats...not an accomplishment when it risks the seat
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:35 AM
Jun 2017

quite often.This is why I give no money to groups like 'our revolution'...while I often agree with their politics, they go after Democrats and not Republicans. This is a deal breaker for me. I also won't vote for any of their candidates in a primary for the same reason. I don't think Sen. Sanders has as much influence over actual voters as some think.

jalan48

(13,834 posts)
31. I think we all know some serious politcal changes are needed if we are to survive.
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:46 AM
Jun 2017

On the climate issue alone, incrementalism is a deadly strategy. My hope is that a progressive block can be created in this country and their ideas and energy spread out from there. Conservative politics will be the death of us all.

Demsrule86

(68,454 posts)
32. I don't agree. And the idea that Democrats would not advance climate in a big way if they could
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:04 AM
Jun 2017

is baloney. Sometimes, it is incrementalism or nothing. I don't see how primarying Democrats in safe seats...waste of money and time will do any of what you say. We risk losing those seats with a new person.

jalan48

(13,834 posts)
33. I think people who have certain political beliefs will run and the people will decide.
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:10 AM
Jun 2017

If the people choose to go the more conservative route, so be it. I will always look at who is bankrolling the candidate, it's an indicator of how they will behave in office.

Demsrule86

(68,454 posts)
36. No, I say run moderates and take the majority...
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:29 AM
Jun 2017

you won't win otherwise. I am not willing to say 'so be it' to conservative governance...some policy is better than none and actually losing progressive policy going back to Roosevelt.

Demsrule86

(68,454 posts)
38. If a person runs against a sitting Democrat and lose the seat, the GOP is enabled which is why
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:01 AM
Jun 2017

although I agree with 'our revolution' and groups like this politically, I don't support them at all...if they were fighting the GOP instead of wasting money in blue states primarying sitting Democrats, it would be different. Even running Perriello was a bad idea. Northam was a great candidate and money and time was wasted with this primary.

Wounded Bear

(58,576 posts)
41. Wishful thinking....
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:17 AM
Jun 2017

Hell, you're sporting a Mariners logo, so I'll assume you're local.

Bernie won the WA caucuses, Hillary won the popular vote. It looks to me like Bernie supporters are a vocal minority. That seems to work for the Repubs, I don't think it does so well for Dems. I'll withhold judgement.

Change itself is not bad, but we're learning first hand what amateur hour in the White House looks like. Not all Dem incumbents are evil.

MineralMan

(146,243 posts)
26. In local and statewide races, individual endorsements by people
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:29 AM
Jun 2017

who are not even from that state don't really carry a lot of weight. Local endorsements are far more important.

In the end, Bernie Sanders is a Senator from Vermont. That's who he is and has been. Most people in this country have never even been to Vermont. He's also a former primary candidate for President, but did not prevail and get the nomination.

Still, Senator Sanders is more than welcome to give his endorsement to whomever he chooses. What affect that endorsement will have, however, may not determine which candidate has the best chance to win. Other things are far more important in most elections that an out-of-stater's endorsement, frankly.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
29. I think "the other guy" would have been an excellent representative.
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 09:40 AM
Jun 2017

Bernie is Bernie. We can't define everyone he endorses on that endorsement alone. That in itself gives Sanders more respect and power than he deserves. We need to get behind the Democrat who wins the primary. "The other guy" stated that before the votes were even counted. That means something to me.

I'm not saying we should ignore what you have stated. It's just that we need to judge the candidates on their own merits. I'm not big on Sanders but I would gladly accept his endorsement if I were running.

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