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regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 04:20 PM Jun 2017

Remember when Gabby Giffords was shot...

...by a man with far-right sympathies, obsession with the "New World Order," and a history of sending hate mail to the Southern Poverty Law Center, how Republicans and the media were quick to deny any political motivation for his acts, describing him as merely an unbalanced individual who shouldn't be associated with his political affiliations?

This time around? Not so much...

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Remember when Gabby Giffords was shot... (Original Post) regnaD kciN Jun 2017 OP
MSM always covers for Republicans! 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2017 #1
Yes. I'm sick of it. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2017 #29
They've ALL been using the phrase "anti-Republican" in describing the VA shooter CousinIT Jun 2017 #31
the republican assholes know they have pushed their shit too far, so this time it's all about The_Casual_Observer Jun 2017 #2
Exactly. dalton99a Jun 2017 #3
Hell, I remember the news cycle being alive with Blue_Tires Jun 2017 #4
Maybe if republicans now are at risk of meadowlark5 Jun 2017 #5
They won't do anything about guns DBoon Jun 2017 #6
I don't know if you intended to be sarcastic, but you are absolutely right. pangaia Jun 2017 #22
Au contraire Fritz Walter Jun 2017 #25
GOP blaming Griffin freddyvh Jun 2017 #7
Hannity claimed no one on the Left denounced Ilsa Jun 2017 #32
Oh but of cooooourse! All part of the WHISIS divide and conquer strategy! lambchopp59 Jun 2017 #35
This guy did it. kentuck Jun 2017 #8
Gabby Cha Jun 2017 #9
Exactly what I thought. DK504 Jun 2017 #10
Hypocricy should be every Repugs first name. lark Jun 2017 #11
All Republicans are opportunistic A$$e$ flying-skeleton Jun 2017 #12
But of course, this time it's a "national tragedy"... Raster Jun 2017 #13
I'm Glad You Brought Gabby Giffords Up.... global1 Jun 2017 #14
Yes. Members from both parties called for more unity and bipartisanship after Giffords was shot. onenote Jun 2017 #23
And remember that a child was also killed. But that didn't matter either. lunamagica Jun 2017 #15
+1 dalton99a Jun 2017 #21
they project their whining bora13 Jun 2017 #16
the fascists will play the victim game all week long. nt elmac Jun 2017 #17
as an aid to deflect attention from... lambchopp59 Jun 2017 #36
Loughtner was also violently anti abortion, thrown out of Pima College for menacing female students stuffmatters Jun 2017 #18
take all the recs. JHan Jun 2017 #19
It's sickening how they're trying to manipulate this incident MrPurple Jun 2017 #20
"antifas" LiberalLovinLug Jun 2017 #24
"Antifa" has to be the most dimwitted attempt at a slur ever Tarc Jun 2017 #28
How about social justice warrior? IronLionZion Jun 2017 #38
Will he get a boat named after him (for getting shot in the ass?) gfwzig Jun 2017 #26
I also remember... MarianJack Jun 2017 #27
They disown every RW, white male, anti-government, domestic terrorist IronLionZion Jun 2017 #30
Lambchopp whispers in Zion's ear: "WHISIS" lambchopp59 Jun 2017 #34
Remind me again whose campaign slogan was "Stronger Together"? lambchopp59 Jun 2017 #33
An old friend I took some journalism classes with...he's one of them. Atman Jun 2017 #37
Sounds a lot like KPN Jun 2017 #40
K&R blueseas Jun 2017 #39

CousinIT

(9,241 posts)
31. They've ALL been using the phrase "anti-Republican" in describing the VA shooter
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 08:18 AM
Jun 2017

THEY CONSISTENTLY FAIL to mention that he was ALSO anti-Democratic/anti-Clinton. He hated both Trump and Clinton. He was NOT a 'Democrat'

I didn't hear it mentioned ONCE all day.

They're diapering Republican's asses.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
2. the republican assholes know they have pushed their shit too far, so this time it's all about
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 04:28 PM
Jun 2017

how much they are hated. They know they are hated and they know why too.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
4. Hell, I remember the news cycle being alive with
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 04:39 PM
Jun 2017

"Obama's going to exploit this to grab all our gunz, isn't he?!?"

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
5. Maybe if republicans now are at risk of
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 04:46 PM
Jun 2017

Getting shot, they'll do something about gun regulation.

For the most part it seems the angriest gun owners were conservatives/republicans - not gunning for republicans so no real reason for them to fear for their safety. But with easy access to guns and anger being stoked to a fevered pitch in this country, they might become targets. Eventually it all comes home to roost.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
22. I don't know if you intended to be sarcastic, but you are absolutely right.
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 06:18 PM
Jun 2017

It is the exact truth...

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
25. Au contraire
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 06:46 PM
Jun 2017

One of the Repuke snowflakes who was a bystander to this event said he wished he'd had a gun on him at the time.

I'll bet you half a peach that we're going to see some movement 💩 towards federal "Stand Yer Ground" legislation, which the NRA would be only-too-happy to draft, and then enthusiastically beat the war drum to pass.

And if (when) a recurrence of this kind of event happens, I would not want to be a LEO or other first responder on the scene, tasked with figuring out who's the hostile and who's the friendly.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
32. Hannity claimed no one on the Left denounced
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 10:15 AM
Jun 2017

Griffin's stupid antics. He likes to lie, of course.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
35. Oh but of cooooourse! All part of the WHISIS divide and conquer strategy!
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 10:45 AM
Jun 2017

He knows his audience. Stoke the hate and now, the fear.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
10. Exactly what I thought.
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 05:04 PM
Jun 2017

They way this will be spun by the psychotic Nazi's and RWNJ's will be horrible.

lark

(23,099 posts)
11. Hypocricy should be every Repugs first name.
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 05:12 PM
Jun 2017

It's what they do most, be hypocritical, lie, spin and start again.

global1

(25,242 posts)
14. I'm Glad You Brought Gabby Giffords Up....
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 05:26 PM
Jun 2017

Did Congress come together like they are talking today. We're all in this together. Dems & Repugs need to get along better.

Did the MSM talk about the protection of Congress people?

Did they say these things back then?

onenote

(42,700 posts)
23. Yes. Members from both parties called for more unity and bipartisanship after Giffords was shot.
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 06:20 PM
Jun 2017

In fact, Boehner's statement about the Giffords shooting, which included the line "An attack on one who serves is an attack on all who serve" and Ryan's statement today, which included the line "An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us” are nearly identical in that regard.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
18. Loughtner was also violently anti abortion, thrown out of Pima College for menacing female students
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 06:00 PM
Jun 2017

Always seems to be that violence, hatred ag women in their criminal and psychiatric pasts Yet these men always seem to have the legal right to buy assault rifles. .

It's the singlemost prevalent quality they all share. Today's guy had a horrible incident on his record.

MrPurple

(985 posts)
20. It's sickening how they're trying to manipulate this incident
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 06:12 PM
Jun 2017

I see all these Republican sheep in the political forum of a New England Patriots message board that I go to (mostly too frustrating to even look in there) posting about how the liberal MSM isn't covering that today's shooter was a Democrat, or how it's just like the "antifa" protesters showing how leftists become violent if they don't win.

They are undoubtedly repeating things from the unbiased, intellectually challenging media that they like to follow.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
24. "antifas"
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 06:36 PM
Jun 2017

ie. Antifascists
I like how they loved to call Obama and the Democrats fascists, but now they are all for it apparently.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
28. "Antifa" has to be the most dimwitted attempt at a slur ever
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 08:25 PM
Jun 2017

Only a mind-numblingly stupid conservative mind could characterize someone who opposes fascism in a pejorative manner.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
38. How about social justice warrior?
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 10:49 AM
Jun 2017
I love how someone actually thinks that's a bad thing.

Or snowflake. Someone called me pajama boy and I didn't feel offended. That sounds comfy

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
27. I also remember...
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 08:04 PM
Jun 2017

...how Sarah Palin(comparison) claimed that SHE was the true vicim of the shooting...SHIT!

PEACE!

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
30. They disown every RW, white male, anti-government, domestic terrorist
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 07:56 AM
Jun 2017

and try to pin it on us. Why bother thinking about it? They don't think like we do. They use alt facts and create their alt truth.

They pin Islamic extremists on us and try to reduce our diversity and immigration and basic human rights. If we oppose war, they claim we are supporting the enemy. They desperately want to associate terrorism with brown people so bad it hurts their own brains from the logical somersaults.

The requirements for something to be an act of terrorism:
1. the unlawful use of violence and intimidation
2. especially against civilians
3. in the pursuit of political aims
4. dark sin

White males can never be profiled. Conservatives can't be terrorists. Never forget this important fact. It's settled and must never be questioned.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
33. Remind me again whose campaign slogan was "Stronger Together"?
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 10:33 AM
Jun 2017

And whose was "Make America Grunt Again". Well armed hoardes of grunting enemies. "Media"-the enemy. Nutjobs repealing any and all vulnerable measures of gun restrictions possible?
All part of divide and conquer. Stoke the hate, stoke the fear on both sides. The banal, racist, sexist WHISIS type and the "Burn down the Obama house at all costs" resentment.
And now they have their sacrificial lambs to deflect attention from...

Atman

(31,464 posts)
37. An old friend I took some journalism classes with...he's one of them.
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 10:49 AM
Jun 2017

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We grew up together on Florida's Space Coast, when people still believed in science. I moved to New England, he moved to Montana (can you see where this is going).

We've had lots of good natured political sparring on FB, but I'm getting pretty tired of it. While he totally supports Trumpsky (he insists that since he was in the Navy, he knows about security clearances, and Hillary Clinton's emails were a threat to 'Murkca), he claims not to have voted for him (like back in the day when you couldn't find a W Bush supporter anywhere). But he still thinks Democrats are just making a big deal out of nothing, Trumpsky did nothing wrong, we're just making stuff up because we hate him.

His latest was one of his "thoughtful" Hallmark Card posts wherein he tries to sound all kumbaya, but it's totally transparent. He said "We must all be UNIFIED in our outrage over the VA shooting. It is just the opening salvo when the start shooting at our Representatives."

I reminded him of Gabby Giffords, and asked where was his "unified" outrage then, when a crazed right-winger shot one of our representatives in the head. Oh, and Mr. Navy, they named a ship after her. His only response was "Oh, so you're saying the Salise shooting was justified?"

There seems to be no ability within the Republican mind to think beyond A or B. It is very troubling. And it is made much, much worse when the so-called President of the United States fans the flames. Indeed, even lights the fire.

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