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that twists a little whenever they read or see something else that Trump does?
It's there everyday, a feeling of dread that something bad is going to happen.
A waking nightmare we can't escape.
Anyone else feel like that?
edit: "their"/not "there", sorry grammarians.
jrthin
(4,841 posts)is too much. i don't know if 45 will fire Rosenstein and Mueller and then pardon everyone, shutting down the investigation.
luvMIdog
(2,533 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)no_hypocrisy
(46,274 posts)"March of the Wooden Soldiers" ("Babes in Toyland"
luvMIdog
(2,533 posts)where did you get my wife's side of her family photo from the beach last summer.
Those are all the folks my friend hangs with these days - who all dutifully watch Pox Noise and Alex Jones, and listen to limbaugh and company on hate radio, and believe everything they're told.
Some of 'em are beyond Deplorables. They're Unredeemables.
TEB
(12,944 posts)Her cousins they get pissed at us we do not think like they do. Or we travel in same circles of friends relatives.
gademocrat7
(10,680 posts)Everyday I keep hoping the nightmare will end.
dalton99a
(81,677 posts)samnsara
(17,658 posts)..at bay. I love watching that he is squirming, as the rest of the GOP tries to maintain some sanity and their futile attempts to show they are in charge....not passing shit and dealing with his crap. It popcorn time. I was too politically naïve to pay real attention to the Nixon downfall. Mostly I remember Mo Deans neat bun as she sat behind her hubby. This is a lesson in history and I'm paying attention to every single second of it.
samnsara
(17,658 posts)..I encounter them every day and I'm in a blue state.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)sets in. Democracies are held in place by honesty, ethics, trust, etc., all which the GOP under Trump lacks.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)And I am resigned to the reality that, before we can stop them, they will do very extensive damage to the systems a nation of 300+ million must have to function at all well.
That said, I am afraid of what could happen if the archconservatives behind all this get control of SCOTUS and redefine what is constitutional and not. That could take decades to undo. I"m older and it probably wouldn't happen in my lifetime, even if it sparked a constitutional amendment to limit terms.
To the point that I am glad when people get frightening glimpses of what they intend. But support is still basically as strong as ever on the right. They're far from understanding just how dreadfully they are being betrayed. We need more revelations, more fright.
And I'd gladly trade the Obama-generated good economy they're reportedly happily attributing to Rump for a good strong recession before 2018.
Boomerproud
(7,976 posts)that have been put in place. Who knows how much more damage he can do.
samnsara
(17,658 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,064 posts)Ligyron
(7,644 posts)The GOP with Trump as pilot are on a Kamikaze mission.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)his appointees, and many others, have no F'en idea what they are doing, and then, all of the positions never filled. ... but I guess Kushner has it all under control, didn't the orange blob send him out to fix/solve all of the worlds' problems.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)but not that great at it
Progressive dog
(6,928 posts)T-party disease.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)MariaCSR
(642 posts)FenwayDonkey
(68 posts)Congress is scarier than Dump is.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)McConnell, especially, has been a major hindrance to progress since Obama took office. Now Trump seems largely motivated by undoing anything his predecessor accomplished. What a farce, in terms of representing average citizens in the U.S., the present day Republicans have become. Ryan seems to find his ideal of government in late-eighteenth century (pre-revolutionary) France.
BigmanPigman
(51,649 posts)nini
(16,672 posts)They're dangerous mofos
Bluepinky
(2,276 posts)I felt this way during the Bush/Cheney years too, but it's much worse now. We are seeing the dismantling of our democracy.
sprinkleeninow
(20,268 posts)It'll come over me like a wave when I least expect it. Quite disturbing to my psyche. I then have to remind myself of who I am and what fiber I'm constructed of.
Not to say I 'could' allow myself to fall apart, but there's 'something' that tells me to continue to have hope.(?)
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Most media bought and owned or suppressed.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)For god's sake, when is this nightmare going to end?
TNNurse
(6,931 posts)El Mimbreno
(778 posts)Nov 8 - 120/70
Nov 9 - 165/85
Wonder how many people have already died from trump stress syndrome.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,064 posts)shanti
(21,675 posts)considered higher now too. Sucks because it was always on the low side before November.
TXCritter
(344 posts)Not sure how long I can endure this.
Jacquette
(152 posts)"this will take at least 2 yrs, maybe until the 2020 election". As if...there will be anything left.
He's gutting the FDA and the EPA. He has a simpleton in charge of Education and a fool in charge of Housing. Thw damage he has, can and will do is incalculable.
I think the people who think this way are the 1, 5 and 10 percenters. They may hate DT with every fiber of their being but for them nothing has really changed bc they live in the other America. They don't get the gut clench, the fear of what he can and will do.
Cosmocat
(14,583 posts)At earliest because a republican Congress isn't going to remove him.
Reality is knowing how much damage is being done AND knowing that sad fact.
whathehell
(29,102 posts)My husband and I, both in our sixties, plan to "escape" to Canada if he's not gone by the end of the summer...We realize the escape would be primarily psychological, but even that is enough.
onlyadream
(2,168 posts)Also had an eye twitch for three months. This is no way to live.
lark
(23,185 posts)If we aren't careful and lucky, this could be the end of the US as we know it. We must #RESIST every moment we can every way we can. Only by sticking together do we have a chance of survive from the take over of the dictator/oligarch.
BigmanPigman
(51,649 posts)I would love to see him gone before I die so I will know that my planet, country, family and friends will be safe. Then I'll die in peace.
Chemisse
(30,821 posts)I have to control how much I see or read or talk about it all.
I've told my husband I do not want to discuss awful things Trump has done, which only get me depressed. But I am happy to discuss things that he has done that are going to hurt him in some way, which make me feel good and hopeful.
Siwsan
(26,315 posts)I'm struggling with what to do if 2018 also produces an election disaster. I know it's the cowards way out, but I'm thinking about getting an appointment with an immigration lawyer to see how feasible it would be for me to cross the border into Canada. I'm not sure I have the stamina for a prolonged existence in a country run by vile and contemptible scum - both foreign and domestic.
Soxfan58
(3,479 posts)Comes from the possibility he may get away with it.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,064 posts)At the very least history will NOT treat Republican Trump kindly.
Beyond that, the Republican brand is badly damaged long term if Democrats weld it to the tRump brand repeatedly, frequently and incessantly.
riversedge
(70,417 posts)yes, the pit hurts a lot,esp when I see stuff like this.
ProPublica?Verified account @ProPublica
Number of jobs Trump has proposed cutting from the Justice Department's civil rights division: 121
Link to tweet
Batship
(28 posts)I feel like I'm drowning in fear. Every morning, I wake up with a knot of dread as I turn on the computer to see what horror that asshole inflicted overnight. And every morning that I don't see that he's bombed somebody is like a weight off my chest.
It doesn't help that I'm going to lose my health insurance for the first time in 56 years. I'm self-employed (after Republicans ate up all the companies in my industry like Pacman), and when the premiums go up because of Trump's sabotage, I'm simply screwed. I just won't be able to afford it. Health insurance will have become as out of reach for me financially as... oh... a trip to Mars. Health insurance will have become a luxury item. And I'm already working 60 hours a week.
But at least I'm healthy, so I just have to gamble until one of the states passes single payer or Medicare for all, and I can move there. I feel enormous empathy for everybody with pre-existing conditions.
I cannot wrap my head around how utterly evil that guy and these Republicans are. If they don't want their tax dollars to be spent on Planned Parenthood, how come I don't get to say that I don't wany my tax dollars spent on Mar-a-Lago, or more troops, or any other asinine Opposite World thing this shitgibbon and his troop of sub-shitgibbons are proposing?
DREAD. I hate going to sleep, I hate waking up. I keep telling myself it'll be over at some point, but I don't know how we all keep breathing in the meantime. It feels like some sort of a slow-motion Pompei.
58Sunliner
(4,424 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,064 posts)Looking at your little hug graphic gave me a smile.
58Sunliner
(4,424 posts)not fooled
(5,803 posts)within two years. I moved to a red state a couple years ago--temporarily--for a good job but that was before dump got into office. Now it's going to become unbearable, especially since I'm in a state that ranks high on voter suppression and low in electoral integrity. Once kobach gets done fixing the vote at the Federal level, we're stuck with a fascist oligarchy.
So, because the GOPee sure looks like they're gonna wreck healthcare, the only safe places will be the blue states that enact their own legislation to replace or compensate for the damage the pukes do at the Federal level.
The US will be unrecognizable compared to the nation of JFK, LBJ and the legacy of FDR that I grew up with. I no longer will know this place. The kochs and the idiot faux lovers can have it.
Moving back to California within two years is now my primary goal in life. Later on, if circumstances permit, New Zealand or Canada.
58Sunliner
(4,424 posts)I could not afford a house so I now live in Va which is becoming bluer and bluer. I still miss the Bay Area. But Va is going to be a liberal state soon.
sprinkleeninow
(20,268 posts)It's a tad better that we got a Dem governor back last Nov. albeit he takes heat and flack from the House and Senate Rs that hold sway.
It would not be feasible for us to move again at this stage of the game, but if push comes to shove, ya gotta do what's called for.
58Sunliner
(4,424 posts)sprinkleeninow
(20,268 posts)(Busting chops is not a violent term. Chops are what musicians call ability/technique, like chops onna bass and like that.) 🎶
I hung with musicians (upright bass & piano) and have a quite prominent one in my circle presently. A violinist. 🎻
I also got my chops. My aura, ability, spirit. When dissed or crossed I say, "Yer busting' mah chops!" 😎
Thanx for prayers. Governor Cooper is up against, well, you know.
Sugar Smack
(18,748 posts)It's all systems go.
58Sunliner
(4,424 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,064 posts)58Sunliner
(4,424 posts)Those symptoms can be exacerbated by stress. I have an immune disorder and benefit greatly from my CBD oil.
sprinkleeninow
(20,268 posts)Have to pace myself. Acquired it in the 70's. One doc in the early 80's said it was 'academic'. Always dragging, fatigued. Was a practice for docs to prescribe anti-depressants. I refused them. I was brought low because I felt like crap, not the reverse. Now it's recognized as a valid disorder and covered by SSD. I lost out, after the fact.
58Sunliner
(4,424 posts)I was also left to wallow. Did a lot of herbs-myrrh and echinacea, green tea. But they have a lot of natural supports now. I also moved to Tucson and was exposed to Valley Fever. Never been 100%. Have to dole out my efforts and just rest when I have to. I would not be functional without my CBD because of the chronic pain. I've also got spine issues and a history of carpal tunnel. This stuff is not fun. I feel for you.
sprinkleeninow
(20,268 posts)I don't look too shabby with makeup, fixed hair and street clothes. But I drag my caboose around every day. My husband gets weary from me saying "I don't feel good".
I got Epstein Barre antibodies in my system. I just need to get enough 😴, eat properly, supplement, don't overdo stuff. But as said, emotional stress will really wipe you out.
One rheumatologist I was referred to said the diagnosis of Epstein Barre was mono, everybody has/has had that. Whaaat?? 🤔
Especially the daily revolting crap emitting from drumpty et al is debilitating. A severe stressor!
Peace be unto you....
LuckyLib
(6,821 posts)four years!"
retrowire
(10,345 posts)I've mentioned my feelings before and stirred up quite the misunderstanding lol.
58Sunliner
(4,424 posts)I was reading last night about the shock and awe doctrine, and it describes perfectly what it appears the repubs are going to try to do with this new health care bill. Some of the books about psychological warfare are required reading for CIA, probably the FBI as well. And it is interesting reading just how much of what the repubs do can be considered tactics to destroy opposition. After months of abusing the public, our courts, etc.., supporting policies regarding guns that endanger us, one of their most malignant reps is shot at, and the break from normal denial and abuse on their part is a play on sympathy and compassion. Not to mention they endeavored to make it someone else's fault. But honestly, that too is a move right out of psy-ops, and is a technique used by kidnappers, etcc, to break people down. Take a breath, do something really nice for yourself today fellow resistors.
edhopper
(33,652 posts)good to know i am not alone in my anxiety.
I tell my wife I cannot watch anything political past 10 at night. No Bill Maher, Charlie Rose or Daily Show. (I can handle Cobert) else I won't sleep through the night.
Martin Eden
(12,882 posts)That phrase sums it up pretty well.
Aside from the very real damage this ignorant vile demagogue will inflict on people and the environment, I am deeply ashamed and embarrassed to have this grotesque fraud as our president.
When he won the Republican nomination I thought a Democratic victory was guaranteed and the Republican party would decline in disarray from the weight of its own moral corruption and the monster they nominated.
I overrated the good sense of the American electorate. Yes, I know Hillary won the popular vote, but an utterly detestable creature like Donald Trump should not get as much as 10% support in any sane society.
CozyMystery
(652 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,064 posts)Don't ruin your health!
You can't change Trump.
But you can become more active in politics; online and (most powerfully) in person.
Becoming more active is more satisfying and healthy than worrying.
Merlot
(9,696 posts)They want you to be miserable, unstable, full of dread, makesy ou easier to manipulate. They don't want you to enjoy your life. They want to feel in power and you to feel powerless.
So make the choice not to let them do that to you. I'm not saying ignore it, but figure out a better reaction. Fight, get mad, be peaceful, do whatever it takes and is best for you. But give up the dread. Life goes on.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,064 posts)Merlot
(9,696 posts)EleanorR
(2,396 posts)They make me cringe, like I would if I saw something disgusting, but I try to focus on the strength, kindness, beauty and intelligence of those that make up the majority of people in this country and who make a difference, large and small, every day.
sprinkleeninow
(20,268 posts)Thanks for that. 😊
nini
(16,672 posts)I decided to not make me sick or depressed. I refuse to let them 'win' when it comes to my own peace of mind.
whathehell
(29,102 posts)and won't be until he's gone.
linnknee
(52 posts)I cannot even put into words half the time how stupid his supporters are and how mean the GOP turned out to be. No one is talking about hollow point bullets which is probably what was used for Steve Scalise so that so much damage was done internally. Between planned parenthood, healthcare, guns, bullets, climate, NATO, Russia, Obstruction, we need healthcare now more than ever. I try to do what I can each and every day to further the cause of the resistance. Best Wishes To All
NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)He might actually be effective in pushing through the conservative agenda.
Trump is an ineffective leader.
58Sunliner
(4,424 posts)The options don't inspire either. I can only hope that whoever it is will also be compromised and that we the people prevail.
radical noodle
(8,016 posts)I talked to my doc about it and she put me on Paxil. I can even sleep now.
Texin
(2,600 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Mountain Mule
(1,002 posts)Our country is under attack from every single side - the environment, our public lands, healthcare, the social safety net, on and on. We have a madman at the helm of the ship of state and his rabid supporters blindly cheer him on and on. I am disabled, getting by on a tiny SSDI check. Trumpf and the reptilicans want to cut disability, cut housing programs, cut medicaid and more. With a republican congress, these cuts may well happen - especially since they now have decided to work their evil in secret. I am terrified of losing my health care and my housing - me and millions of other Americans. I loathe that monster!
-Steph-
(409 posts)still deeply concerned about what atrocities Trump & his sycophants will be able to pull off before they're kicked out of the White House.
The thing that worries me the most though, is that we're going to keep getting Republicans in office that although they may not be as incompetent as Trump, will be just as evil. Here's a couple reasons why I fear this will keep happening...
1. It's hard for me to believe with how easily they got away with stealing the election, that they wouldn't keep doing it. Why would they stop when they've faced zero consequences for it, and it's actually become a taboo to even make the suggestion that they did it in the first place? We're all just supposed to bury our heads in the sand and keep pretending that it didn't happen, when everything suggests that it did. I can't imagine that they wouldn't keep stealing elections with how successful they've been.
2. Right-wing media. They're successfully brainwashing the masses via television through networks like Fox News, via radio hosts like Rush Limbaugh, through websites like Breitbart, and via social media with fake news. Their viewers, readers, and listeners are conditioned not to trust any legitimate news sources. They're hard to reason with and get through to, because there's no source of information we can give them that they will trust. So we have this huge fraction of the population that is caught up in this right-wing news bubble. They've been conditioned to think that liberals, immigrants, people of color, and anything outside of Christianity is a direct threat to themselves. Right now as I'm typing this, the right-wing media is making a huge coordinated push to their viewers, readers, and listeners that any investigation into Trump and his cohorts is to be dismissed as part of a Deep State and liberal conspiracy to take out Trump.
In my opinion, until we can ensure the integrity of our elections and find a better way to combat the right-wing media, then I fear it almost doesn't even matter when Trump & his cronies are out of office because they'll just keep getting replaced by similar evils.
So yeah, there's still a pit in my stomach.
BarbD
(1,194 posts)I've survived 79 years. McCarthy's Red Menace, Vietnam, Nixon, Reagan, but I must admit Trump has thrown me for a loop. Just when I thought I could relax and leave politics to my children, I realized I needed to set an example of how to survive in difficult times for my grandchildren. Immediately following the election I announced to my family that I was going to start attending my Democratic Town meetings. I put Congressman Jim Himes, Senator Chris Murphy, and Senator Richard Blumenthal on speed dial.
In trying to achieve a balance in my life, I take walks on the beach to connect with the earth. Limit my exposure to the news by reading the NY Times and watching MSNBC from 7-11 while keeping up with the Red Sox games.
I am heartened to see honest politicians like my Connecticut congressmen, rise to the occasion. We shall overcome. Resist! Persist!
sprinkleeninow
(20,268 posts)I'm up there chronologically also, and thot at this stage of the game I could rest a bit easier and chill after paying my dues all those decades, but nooo!
Resist! Persist! Restore! These catalysts rev my engine.
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rocktivity
(44,583 posts)But I take comfort in knowing that more people voted against him than for him.
rocktivity
Paladin
(28,281 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)He is an incompetent fool that the establishment elites do not trust to do their bidding.
Pence is a competent fool they do trust.
So once he is gone, we are going to see a return to the darkest days of the Bush administration when political, financial, and media elites are in sync and the rest of us are just in their way.
Mc Mike
(9,115 posts)and just watch his sphincter like mouth move and jowls wabble. Then turn the sound back on again for the commentary about his latest idiotic pronouncements.
Keeps my blood pressure down.
calimary
(81,565 posts)I feel like I'm a hostage in some sort of Bizarro Captivity land. I feel like I'm living in hostile territory these days.
Mc Mike
(9,115 posts)adenoidal-faux-wise-guy-who-just-agonizingly-stubbed-his-big-toe voice of his, is balm for the soul.
Provides a measure of control over events. At least control over my own feelings and the space inside my head.
jazzcat23
(176 posts)I absolutely cannot look at that horrible face with the eternal scowl! He's always pissed! Nor can I stand to hear his voice, his manner of speech is right out if kindergarten. Every time he comes on, I must turn the channel or hit the mute because I so want to slap this idiot into next year. I also cannot really sleep, it's been almost a year since I've gotten more than 2 hours in a row. I became worried for everyone in this country once he was installed, and it grows daily. Violence has escalated to unheard of levels. All due to the trumplethinskin and his followers and his family. I am truly looking into moving to Costa Rica forever. I'd like my last decade to be a peaceful and enjoyable one. Only I am also living on disability, and who knows if I could ever save enough now to make that move. But from all I've read, you can be pretty comfortable there on little money.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)zentrum
(9,866 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,031 posts)that Trump will undo himself. Every time the orange idiot shoots himself in the foot, it gives me a little laugh. Hope he takes the rest of the GOP with him.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)I have also quit running and socializing with many of my friends.
Libertarian_4_life
(20 posts)I get that knot every time he sends out a new tweet
MontanaMama
(23,366 posts)and last thing I look at before I turn in. I've got the knot. I'm slightly more hopeful than I was a couple months ago, however, guardedly so. I have no doubt Loser45 will fire Mueller and Rosenstein to slow/halt the investigations but something inside me says that we will prevail. Maybe it is false hope - I don't know - if we don't get Russia the eff out of our elections, we're sunk.
LittleGirl
(8,292 posts)I live in a red state - AZ and fortunately, in Tucson which is mostly blue. I am fortunate that my neighbors that speak to me are liberals like me. There's one idiot behind me that I'm sure is suffering withdrawals now that his favorite Bill O'Reilly isn't on the air anymore. bwaaahaaa. evil laugh.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)It started in the afternoon before we knew any "results". It is a feeling of dread and impending doom. I think it will not go away until he is out of office.
florida08
(4,106 posts)I notice my bottle wine has changed for Hennessy. Good thing I don't smoke-
https://giphy.com/gifs/black-and-white-loop-smoke-YmXHfVvYgT7oc
byronius
(7,407 posts)Government by Orc. It can't go on this way.
yuiyoshida
(41,869 posts)for Medical Marijuana, while it last....
nini
(16,672 posts)I also believe they are involved in all this crap on some level and unfortunately will be towards the end of the list of those who go down.
Trump? He just needs to be perp walked and put away forever.
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)ever since I woke up on November 9, 2016 and read the news. Each day since then the knot has gotten larger and tighter. My only solace is my grandchildren. I keep telling myself that they deserve a much, MUCH better life than Republicans want to give them, and that I have to do everything in my power to make sure they do. That is the ONLY thing that keeps me going these days.
Rhiannon12866
(206,601 posts)It boggles the mind that this idiot is still engaging in such egregious and insane behavior that no elected official - of either party - would have been permitted to get away with more than once! And you're so right, it continues to get worse by the day! I finally stopped watching the news during the campaign, planned to tune in again when this nightmare was finally over. *sigh* My stomach wrenches on a regular basis...
Dolly123Jimmy
(26 posts)boycott any store that is affiliated with Trump , Don't watch Megan Kelly etc.
Do something every day that holds up his agenda.
You are not alone , we are together.
Rhiannon12866
(206,601 posts)I've worked on three congressional campaigns. Not to mention keeping up with the news like never before. Unfortunately, between "redistricting" and the nightmare 2016 election, we're stuck with the worst representation we've ever had. The one good thing is that more people are waking up and there have already been protests. Here's hoping the momentum will carry on till November 2018.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)edhopper
(33,652 posts)by a leader that would lead us out of a terrible time.
When the leader is the cause of the devastation, we have a lot to fear.
Don't tell those about to lose their health insurance, their lively hood or their home, they only have to fear fear itself.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)surprised Americans are still sticking with capitalism and not moving to, say, socialism or - GASP! - communism. I guess most Americans haven't reached the point yet where a communist future looks more appealing than Trumpland.
FWIW, I summoned FDR to buck up people's spirits, not to make light of a very serious situation
edhopper
(33,652 posts)as practiced in the real world, has failed. Plus, it is the "scary Islam" American boogeyman, so I can't see it taking hold here.
But a Western European type socialism (renamed) is what he should have.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)not be able to save capitalism, unlike FDR.
edhopper
(33,652 posts)to scary to think of.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)the fascists led by Trump are openly discussing tinkering with the he real macroeconomc equation (reducing demand). It's not difficult to envisage a deflationary death spiral resulting.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Blood pressure through the roof, I don't sleep at night and I've put on 15 lbs... And this is after limiting the number of times I check in on Trump shenanigans to *maybe* once a day.