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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 09:23 AM Jun 2017

Jill Stein Isn't Sorry

The Green Party candidate has no regrets, even as Democrats accuse her of helping elect Donald Trump and cozying up to Vladimir Putin.

By BEN SCHRECKINGER June 20, 2017

Had a few thousand votes in key Midwestern states gone to Hillary Clinton instead of Jill Stein, many on the left believe, America might be having a very different conversation today.

Instead, Democrats are still fuming about the role the Green Party nominee may have played in electing Donald Trump—who as president has celebrated the coal industry, promised to pull the United States out of the world’s most important climate agreement and refused to even say whether he believes global warming is real. All of that should be anathema to a party whose founding principles include a commitment to “ecological wisdom.”

So does Stein, with the benefit of hindsight, have any regrets? “I don’t think so,” she tells me by phone from her home in Lexington, Massachusetts. Decrying “fake news,” citing the “sabotage of Bernie Sanders” and talking up the “tremendous” campaign she could have run with more money, Stein is projecting a Trump-worthy level of defiance. “I consider it a great honor that the party and our prior campaign for president is suddenly being attacked outside of an election season,” she says.

Those attacks aren’t merely sour grapes from a party still reeling from its stunning defeat in November. Some Democrats would like to see Stein hauled in front of Congress to explain mysteries like what, exactly, she was doing at a 2015 Moscow gala thrown by a Russian state-owned broadcaster—the same RT event that got Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael Flynn, in such trouble.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/20/jill-stein-green-party-no-regrets-2016-215281

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Jill Stein Isn't Sorry (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2017 OP
Cruella de ville doesn't give AF! Stateswoman she! Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #1
She is a snake oil salesman. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #2
"Trump is merely a bumbler". HughBeaumont Jun 2017 #3
Neither was Ralph Nader...when he enabled Bush jr. to get elected. Stuart G Jun 2017 #4
Stein and hubby have a cool net worth of some $4 million. It's not KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #5
If Hillary had won, no one would have heard of Stein leftstreet Jun 2017 #6
Oh, she's sorry, all right... MineralMan Jun 2017 #7
Yes, she's sorry, just not apologetic... Wounded Bear Jun 2017 #19
... Stein... Jill Stein ... It'll come to me ... Stein ... Oh! Wasn't she the star of "Gidget"? struggle4progress Jun 2017 #8
Stein, Nader and their ignorant followers will never admit to being stooges of the GOP FLPanhandle Jun 2017 #9
Does it not seem weird to anybody else Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2017 #10
you mean, this stein? spanone Jun 2017 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2017 #18
so you wandered in here to take a stab at Hillary? good luck with that. spanone Jun 2017 #20
Post removed Post removed Jun 2017 #22
Enjoy your stay... Wounded Bear Jun 2017 #21
Fuck Jill Stein! Kleveland Jun 2017 #12
Absolutely. awesomerwb1 Jun 2017 #14
A vote for stein was a vote for trump Gothmog Jun 2017 #13
the green party is a troll party. JI7 Jun 2017 #15
She's a nut job plus an asshole. ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #16
Of course not. She's a Russian agent Renew Deal Jun 2017 #17
Of course she isn't. She made more for the party doing the recount than pnwmom Jun 2017 #23
Ripping off ignorant innumerate "greens" is a lucrative business. hunter Jun 2017 #24
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
2. She is a snake oil salesman.
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 09:26 AM
Jun 2017

Why would she apologize for successfully fleecing a bunch of dolts? Her objective is to fill the coffers. Not a politically ideological bone in her body.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
3. "Trump is merely a bumbler".
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 09:26 AM
Jun 2017

Holy shit, that's not just a shortcut to thinking, that's a damned teleportation.

Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
4. Neither was Ralph Nader...when he enabled Bush jr. to get elected.
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 09:29 AM
Jun 2017

No remorse, no acceptance of responsibility of events, total denial...And...I might add this..no matter what he has done to help consumers, I will always truly "hate" Ralph Nader. That war killed tens of thousands of people and totally destabilized Iraq.. sorry I got to say this...got to .........Fuck Nader!!!, Fuck Stein!!

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
5. Stein and hubby have a cool net worth of some $4 million. It's not
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 09:29 AM
Jun 2017

difficult to discern where her class interests, if not her ideological interests, lie. HINT: It ain't with the working class.

leftstreet

(36,108 posts)
6. If Hillary had won, no one would have heard of Stein
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 09:32 AM
Jun 2017

Republican Donald Trump 62,985,106 45.9% -1.1%
Democratic Hillary Clinton 65,853,625 48% -3%
Libertarian Gary Johnson 4,489,233 3.3% +2.3%
Green Jill Stein 1,457,222 1.1% +0.7%
Others Others 984,722 0.7% +0.4%

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
9. Stein, Nader and their ignorant followers will never admit to being stooges of the GOP
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 09:38 AM
Jun 2017

But that's what they are and it will never be forgotten that both helped elect some of the worst presidents this country has ever had.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
10. Does it not seem weird to anybody else
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 09:45 AM
Jun 2017

that the Green Party always seems to make the biggest push for the Presidency after 8 years of Democrats in the WH? It's now happened twice in recent history that the Greens adversely affected a Presidential election and tilted it towards the Republicans, once following Bill Clinton and now again following Barack Obama. It can't be a coincidence, can it? And both times out there with pretty much the same messaging: Democrats aren't any better than the Republicans, can't be trusted any more than Republicans, no voting for "lesser of two evils", electing an awful Republican will lead to a massive progressive revolution, etc. I'm not particularly big on conspiracy theories but it seems like the Greens exist for little more reason than to serve as spoilers, throwing elections to the Republicans, either intentionally or unintentionally. Stein's attendance at a dinner gala with Putin in 2015 makes her involvement in last year's race for the WH even more fishy IMHO. Democrats never seem to be able to win a third consecutive term for POTUS and, while there are certainly some Republican factors to blame, it just seems weird that Republicans haven't been able to make a Democratic President a one-term President since Jimmy Carter but they're able to win right after a two-term Democratic President and the last two instances have been under highly suspicious circumstances to boot. And the Greens have been right there as well. I just wonder...........Is it just me?

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Kleveland

(1,257 posts)
12. Fuck Jill Stein!
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 09:50 AM
Jun 2017

Seriously, just fuck her to hell.

She is undoubtedly complicit in the mess that this country is in.

I have no forgiveness, or sympathy for her, or anyone who voted for her.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
23. Of course she isn't. She made more for the party doing the recount than
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 11:14 AM
Jun 2017

during the entire campaign, since she got to keep her millions in leftovers for "vote related" activities.

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