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packman

(16,296 posts)
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 11:44 AM Jun 2017

Five new stats that prove Americans are backwards about money

1. About 1 in 4 literally have no emergency savings. A survey released Tuesday by Bankrate.com found that 24% don’t have even a single dollar saved for an emergency

2. We are more worried about paying for our next vacation than about saving enough for retirement

3. Millions of us hide money from our spouses and partners. An estimated 12 million Americans confess they have kept a source of money secret from their romantic partners.

4. We prioritize paying the wrong bills first. When we can’t pay all our bills, we make bad choices about which to pay. “Consumers in financial distress tend to prioritize unsecured personal loans ahead of other credit products such as auto loans, mortgages and credit cards

5. We’ve racked up $1 trillion in credit card debt — and that’s just a fraction of what we owe.

That’s according to data released this year from the Federal Reserve, which found that U.S. consumers owe $1.0004 trillion on their cards, up 6.2% from a year ago; this is the highest amount owed since January 2009. What’s more, this isn’t the only consumer debt to top $1 trillion. We now also owe more than $1 trillion for our cars, and for our student loans, the data showed

#5 twists my gut. Pay the average American worker a shit hourly work rate and give them a credit card. I believe the credit card companies and the powers-to-be conspire to enslave the American laborer with a low wage and a debt that shackles them for life.

More at:
.https://moneyish.com/ish/5-facts-that-prove-americans-dont-know-anything-about-managing-money/

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Five new stats that prove Americans are backwards about money (Original Post) packman Jun 2017 OP
#2 What's a vacation? House of Roberts Jun 2017 #1
You've just described my life! TeapotInATempest Jun 2017 #5
You describe a Wawannabe Jun 2017 #11
I don't take vacations, which is probably why I have healthy emergency savings Skittles Jun 2017 #17
And folks spend money on things like greymattermom Jun 2017 #2
Bottled water! LakeArenal Jun 2017 #6
How dare they get themselves a treat once in awhile, or invest in something they need to help WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2017 #10
Stood behind someone yesterday buying smokes for $7 a pack smh nm MichMan Jun 2017 #16
Many people see no way of having anything joyful or satisfying unless they use credit. nikibatts Jun 2017 #3
Got a 6th one for you exboyfil Jun 2017 #4
Thus #1 loyalsister Jun 2017 #19
Getting people into debt is the name of the game. BSdetect Jun 2017 #7
Debtfree american here! Wawannabe Jun 2017 #12
I suppose in a few weeks we'll see more articles citing Fed numbers that show Americas WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2017 #8
Exactly 100% correct Orrex Jun 2017 #15
Also, this WSJ writer forgot to mention avocado toast. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2017 #9
Right? MissB Jun 2017 #13
I cringe every time I see a credit card company advertising "5% cash back". Initech Jun 2017 #14
How so? NutmegYankee Jun 2017 #20
I finally got out of debt, and I am working hard not to go back into debt again MiniMe Jun 2017 #18

House of Roberts

(5,189 posts)
1. #2 What's a vacation?
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 11:48 AM
Jun 2017

Is that where you take Monday off to get a four day weekend this Fourth of July, and don't go anywhere because of household chores, pets, and simply not enough disposable income?

TeapotInATempest

(804 posts)
5. You've just described my life!
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 12:05 PM
Jun 2017

It sounds depressing when you put it that way.

And the thing is, I'm far from poor these days but because I was so broke for so many years I'm now behind trying to save for retirement, so I STILL don't go anywhere...

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
2. And folks spend money on things like
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 11:59 AM
Jun 2017

cigarettes, soda, makeup, manipedis, massages. Probably enough to afford a vacation.

LakeArenal

(28,858 posts)
6. Bottled water!
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 12:09 PM
Jun 2017

Only people using bottled water should be those whose tap water is... Poisonous? Flammable? Brown? All the above.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,467 posts)
10. How dare they get themselves a treat once in awhile, or invest in something they need to help
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 12:40 PM
Jun 2017

them look good for a job interview.

 

nikibatts

(2,198 posts)
3. Many people see no way of having anything joyful or satisfying unless they use credit.
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 12:01 PM
Jun 2017

The system is made that way. My grandparents worked hard every day, saved enough for burial, had no credit, didn't have much joy through life except to work to give some pleasantries to their kids and grandkids. Home full of love and not much more. Born poor, worked hard, good citizens, died poor. I miss them and their loving ways.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
4. Got a 6th one for you
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 12:03 PM
Jun 2017

Total Student loan debt is $1.2T. Some percentage is "good" debt obtained getting a marketable degree that can service it. How much does not meet that standard. Unlike the other debt it is not dischargable in bankruptcy. Finally the U.S. government owns most of the paper on this debt.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
19. Thus #1
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 05:25 PM
Jun 2017

I'm sure there are people who just don't want to save. But, I think there's a significant number of people whose potential savings goes to paying down student loan debt, or just trying to survive.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,467 posts)
8. I suppose in a few weeks we'll see more articles citing Fed numbers that show Americas
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 12:38 PM
Jun 2017

aren't spending and what's wrong and why aren't they consuming.

These numbers don't show we're bad with money. They show there's something wrong with the system. Absolutely, people make terrible choices. But many times, particularly among low-income people or those in poverty, they're they best choices the have.

Finally, the words "health care" are missing from this article, which is where a lot of Americans' problems with money start.

Orrex

(63,234 posts)
15. Exactly 100% correct
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 01:09 PM
Jun 2017

When the non-leisure class spends too much, they're blamed for harming the economy by creating too much risky debt.

When the non-leisure class spends too little, they're blamed for harming the economy by failing to support retailers.


The obscenely wealthy, however, can do wrong, no matter how many trillions they hide in offshore tax shelters. Money placed into the hands of the rich is a pure good; money placed within reach of the poor is deadly poison for the economy and the world.

Initech

(100,108 posts)
14. I cringe every time I see a credit card company advertising "5% cash back".
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 01:08 PM
Jun 2017

Or however much their "cash back" equals. That is about as much false advertising as it gets.

MiniMe

(21,721 posts)
18. I finally got out of debt, and I am working hard not to go back into debt again
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 05:19 PM
Jun 2017

I do have a credit card, but they hate me because I pay it off every month. I don't have a mortgage or a car payment.

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