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EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 10:02 PM Jun 2017

It doesn't matter if they win by one point or 20 points

If they're winning, they're winning. And our taunting and gloating that "ha ha, they won with a much narrower margin than they won last time" is just silly.

We need to stop making excuses for losing elections and start putting some wins on the board or nothing else will matter.

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It doesn't matter if they win by one point or 20 points (Original Post) EffieBlack Jun 2017 OP
Okay. You're right. We're losers. forgotmylogin Jun 2017 #1
No, People Who Vote For Repubs Are LOSERS SoCalMusicLover Jun 2017 #4
Evil has won. I'm gonna go crawl in a hole and wait to die. forgotmylogin Jun 2017 #10
You're totally missing the point EffieBlack Jun 2017 #11
I think I'm done. forgotmylogin Jun 2017 #12
Agreed SoCalMusicLover Jun 2017 #13
How to do that when voting machines are owned by partisans and subject angstlessk Jun 2017 #2
? AngryAmish Jun 2017 #3
Mother Nature was no help. oasis Jun 2017 #5
Yeah every one these standingtall Jun 2017 #6
And we need to stop assuming that they are going to screw themselves out of victories EffieBlack Jun 2017 #9
+1 leftstreet Jun 2017 #14
Yes. EffieBlack Jun 2017 #16
Agreed, but the elephant in the room is voter suppression and purging. ecstatic Jun 2017 #7
I agree. It means SOMETHING that they do that well in a Trump stronghold, but... Honeycombe8 Jun 2017 #8
And they will keep rigging shit as long as we pretend they won't or they can't. nt LaydeeBug Jun 2017 #15
You are right... fallout87 Jun 2017 #17
I agree. Celebrating "moral victories" makes one sound like a pathetic loser. Still In Wisconsin Jun 2017 #18
True, but Jamaal510 Jun 2017 #19
 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
11. You're totally missing the point
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 10:25 PM
Jun 2017

We don't need to give up. We need to fight smarter. And chasing around after and throwing money at Trump voters hoping they'll change their minds and vote for a Democrat is stupid.

forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
12. I think I'm done.
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 10:30 PM
Jun 2017

I don't think the world can be saved.

People want to shoot each other and beat children with bats until they die and drive into pedestrians.

We have a spoiled, egocentric leader who couldn't give two fucks about humanity except for what turnip blood he can squeeze out to to weigh down his own coffers.

Apparently, this is what people want and voted for and continue to want.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
13. Agreed
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 10:39 PM
Jun 2017

I just wish those of us who are Democrats didn't have to suffer, and that all the Bullshit the repubs will put forth, only impacted the IDIOTS who put them in office.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
2. How to do that when voting machines are owned by partisans and subject
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 10:05 PM
Jun 2017

to hacking.....AND gerrymandering AND voter suppression?

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
6. Yeah every one these
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 10:08 PM
Jun 2017

we don't win is another vote for the the republican party's toxic agenda. Repukes don't care that they barely win as long as they win. Seriously their president got 3 million less votes than his opponent,but is that stopping them from trying to take health away from millions of Americans?

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
9. And we need to stop assuming that they are going to screw themselves out of victories
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 10:17 PM
Jun 2017

Just look at them - the president is in the midst of the worst scandal possibly in American history. His poll numbers are in the toilet. Republicans in the House and Senate are screwing their constituents every which way. But on the ground, people are still voting Republican, despite all of this. We need to stop trying to convince those voters to vote Democratic - they're not going to do it. We need to focus on our base.

I remember back in 2013 after the Republicans shut down the government and pundits and consultants crowed about how the shutdown was a disaster for the Republicans and Republicans were doomed, etc.

And then less than a year later, the Republicans kicked our asses in the mid-terms, picked up seats in the House and took the Senate away from us. And two years after that, they kicked our asses again AND took back the White House. So much for that "Republicans shot themselves in the foot" argument.

We need to realize that there's little they can do to get these people to turn on them.

ecstatic

(32,701 posts)
7. Agreed, but the elephant in the room is voter suppression and purging.
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 10:09 PM
Jun 2017

Not to mention last minute dirty tricks --- why did the polling location change for so many in Dekalb? Ossoff would be the winner tonight if not for rethug dirty tricks. The media isn't talking about any of that stuff tonight. If these issues aren't addressed more forcefully, the losses will continue.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
8. I agree. It means SOMETHING that they do that well in a Trump stronghold, but...
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 10:09 PM
Jun 2017

But a win is a win, and a loss is a loss.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
18. I agree. Celebrating "moral victories" makes one sound like a pathetic loser.
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 11:11 PM
Jun 2017

This is just another loss. An ass kicking. I gut punch...whatever.

At the end of the day it's another win for TRUMP.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
19. True, but
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 12:52 AM
Jun 2017

this was a district where Democrats weren't supposed to come close to winning, anyway. I didn't expect a victory. I'm still keeping my head up, plus the district has been trending in a favorable direction for Democrats:




We'll see whether or not this leads to a blue tidal wave next year, but it's a good sign if the GOP has to spend this much money and do so much cheating to squeak out a win. I don't see the GOP having much of a chance at bouncing any Democratic incumbents.
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