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Initech

(100,070 posts)
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 09:21 AM Jun 2017

Time To Ask: Is The Alt Right / White Nationalism Movement A Fad?

Trump's useful idiots like Mike Cernovich, Alex Jones, and Jack Posobiec are certainly making a case for it, but does the movement have any muster or will it die out? Or is this just the beginning and something much scarier will emerge?

The case for it being a fad: Fox News' sharply declining ratings and the unexpected results of the '17 special elections.

The case for it being here to stay: parents installing alt right "values" in their children, and children quoting Trump to bully their classmates. The ratings of Infowars and Breitbart.

The case for it morphing into something scarier: History. Particularly Russia and Germany. Look at the rise of Stalin, Putin, Hitler, and every other World War 2 era dictator. It may take a generation or two but don't think it can't happen here.


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The Alt Right is here to stay.
2 (29%)
The Alt Right is a fad and will die out.
0 (0%)
The Alt Right is the beginning of something much scarier.
4 (57%)
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ck4829

(35,076 posts)
2. I believe there was a time ISIS/Daesh was described as just a fad too
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 09:30 AM
Jun 2017

A group that only had a presence on the Internet they said during the surge.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. No Fad, hatred is for long-term based upon the 3%er, etc., tattoos I've seen and history of racism.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 09:30 AM
Jun 2017

Dulcinea

(6,630 posts)
4. Other.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 09:32 AM
Jun 2017

The so-called "alt-right" has always been around--the KKK, far-right gun nuts, etc. It's a matter of whether they're in the forefront of society or in the shadows.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
5. They have been around for as long as I can remember.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 10:04 AM
Jun 2017

KKK and John Birch Society. I did a paper on it when I was in High School and that was 1965.

They were just as awful then as they are now.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
7. In a country that had slavery and Jim Crow and now is actively working to not allow blacks to vote?
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 10:19 AM
Jun 2017

It's not a fad, it's a pattern.

Initech

(100,070 posts)
8. I think it's going to morph into something much scarier.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 10:34 AM
Jun 2017

The Alt Right has been drumming up the civil war card, but they use way more divisive and violent imagery than we do. They want us dead. They would commit genocide against us if they thought they could get away with it, And then I saw that article on Buzzfeed a couple of weeks ago about how kids were quoting Trump to bully their classmates. Combine those two things and we'll see the rise of a new breed of American fasicm by the time these kids are old enough to vote.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
12. I wrote a tongue-in-cheek response on Yahoo about the shooting of Scalise and others...
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 11:02 AM
Jun 2017

... after I read MANY other posts of a fascist nature.

To be clear, I couldn't disagree more with what I wrote and, to my dismay, my post received several thumbs up!!

I wrote something like...
~~~~~~~~~~
It's time for harsh measures to end this liberal lunacy! The liberal media needs to be controlled with severe punishment when they print or say anything against President Trump and his supporters! Liberals, socialists, and communists need imprisoned or killed when they express opposition to our way of life too . Muslims are a threat to our well-being and should be placed in camps until Trump can determine a final solution. We should also disregard so-called international treaties and agreements and expand the American way of life around the world with our military for our own safety. With Trump guiding us, this empire shall survive for a thousand years! Hail, Trump!
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I HOPE that a few of the thumbs up came from people who recognized it was a parody of Nazi Germany, but my impression was that the reaction came from people who actually agreed with the fascist nonsense!

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
9. Nope. I used to think Rush Limbaugh was a fad, but it's even worse now.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 10:45 AM
Jun 2017

This country continues creeping toward fascism and it's mostly because of the messages of hate that largely go unchecked.

The Jews largely ignored the decades of hate that came from various sources in Germany too. Hitler and the Nazis didn't just turn on switch. The groundwork was done many years earlier.

Initech

(100,070 posts)
11. The hate and animosity the right displays toward the left right now is insane.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 10:58 AM
Jun 2017

It's unlike anything I've ever seen. It's getting really scary out there.

AmandaRuth

(3,105 posts)
10. The question I ask myself everyday
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 10:51 AM
Jun 2017

Is why is this being legitimized? Why isnt Bannon/alt right questioned everyday, with every trump supporter? This is not America. I think about this stuff too much, I guess.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,501 posts)
13. That name is just a "cutesy oh so clever" attempt to rebrand the fuckwad
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 11:08 AM
Jun 2017

bigots that have always been here. The thing I find worrisome is that these are not necessarily 5 hicks getting together in the backwoods. They seem to be attracting younger and more urban and suburban people.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
15. It's a "fad" that began hundreds of years ago ...
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 11:11 AM
Jun 2017

and is still going strong.

It will eventually die out. But probably not this century.

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