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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNFL Quarterback signs largest deal in NFL History :25 million a year, for 5 years
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2674596-derek-carr-signs-raiders-contract-qb-reportedly-is-nfls-highest-paid-player?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorialYou can read the story with incentives and guarantees. I really can't imagine that much money. Is he really worth that much?? I haven't got a clue...
BumRushDaShow
(129,913 posts)who used to get close to that *per film* 20 years ago, this is nothing.
malchickiwick
(1,474 posts)Yep, a shi*ton of money, but that's today's NFL.
Initech
(100,132 posts)Players are making obscene salaries and the the owners in order to be able to pay them are jacking ticket prices so high that nobody can afford to go to the games anymore! It's a direct economic cause and effect. I mean shit, I'm an Angels fan. I recently found a ticket stub from 2007. My seat then was $32. I saw a ticket stub for the same seat this year - $110!!! And if they're playing the Yankees, Dodgers, or Red Sox, that price gets jacked up to $175!! Shit, who can afford to go to the games anymore when tickets are that high?
tblue37
(65,527 posts)NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)Also the NFL salary cap is more tied to TV revenue than ticket revenue.
HAB911
(8,934 posts)Boycott the fuckers
TAMPA Since being elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame on the first ballot four years ago, Warren Sapp has traveled each August to Canton, Ohio, to join the game's greats returning for induction ceremonies. But with each passing year, it seemed too many of his fellow NFL players were in failing health and slipping further into a fog as a result of head injuries sustained during their careers."I said, 'I can't do this. I can't stay on the sideline and watch Tony Dorsett and Willie Brown and all the great ones deteriorate before my eyes,' " Sapp told the Tampa Bay Times on Tuesday.
That why the 44-year-old former defensive tackle, one of the most successful players in Bucs history, announced Tuesday that he is pledging his brain to the Concussion Legacy Foundation and is advocating to eliminate youth tackle football until players are in high school.
In a first-person story and three-minute video at the Players' Tribune, Sapp detailed some of his own problems with memory loss and says he needs to set reminders on his phone for everyday activities because he can't remember things the way he used to.
Sapp said he was motivated to speak out after reading quotes from NFL owners denying a connection between football and concussions, CTE and suicide.
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/warren-sapp-to-donate-his-brain-to-concussion-research/2327891
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,500 posts)If it were too much, the team wouldn't pay it.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Fair is both relative and irrelevant to a free market.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,500 posts)Good point.
ileus
(15,396 posts)Buckeye_Democrat
(14,859 posts)... about their incomes.
Even Mike Brown, owner of the lowly Bengals, is worth about a billion dollars!
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)The Raiders are extremely likely to bounce and not come close to current projections for 2017. The sports media is somehow touting them as New England's chief threat in the AFC. But that ignores the NFL reality of a team regressing toward the prior level if the win total jumped or declined 3+ games a year earlier. Oakland is actually bucking a double dose because the victory total bumped from 3 to 7 and then 12. It is considerably easier to sustain a jump from 3 to 7 than 7 to 12.
Besides, the 2016 Raiders were one of the great frauds in recent NFL history. Their point differential was pedestrian considering how many games they won, and the vital category of Yards Per Pass Attempt Differential revealed a net negative of -.9. For reference, Atlanta led the league at +2.0 while New England was second at +1.4. Those were obviously the two Super Bowl representatives.
It is very likely Oakland would have flopped in the playoffs even if Carr had remained healthy:
http://mule.he.net/~budsport/pub/killer.php
Anyway, with the salary cap projected to rise stage by stage there have been estimates of this type of quarterback increase. Instead of $17 to $22 million at the top I've read many articles from salary cap experts that $22 to $28 million will be the new standard, once the next wave of top tier guys are due the next contract. This is the first verification that they are correct.
ileus
(15,396 posts)At least as a Redskin fan I hope so...
roscoeroscoe
(1,370 posts)I wonder what contract situation the Redskins are going to wind up with?
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Oh, and screw the Redscabs...we will peel them back n' watch em' bleed LOL
niyad
(113,792 posts)other conditions.
erpowers
(9,350 posts)I have two problems with this deal. I could be wrong, but I think Carr is injury prone. I am not sure he has been able to make it through a full season and the playoffs.
Also, contracts like this are bad for the salary cap. The article mentioned a number of other young quarterbacks who signed big deal and then did not live up to the hype. It might be that the reason these young quarterbacks struggled after getting big contracts is that their big contracts prevented the team from building around the young quarterbacks. The article also pointed out that the Raiders would now have to make hard decisions about which other players to keep and let go. It is possible this new Carr deal will make the team worse because it might be hard for the team get and keep good role players.
Recently, I heard a radio sports show host say Tom Brady has never been the highest paid quarterback in the NFL. That may, or may not be true, but Tom Brady has five NFL championship rings. Maybe it is a better to take less pay in order to allow the team to bring in good players so the team can win championships.
mythology
(9,527 posts)A sweetheart deal on rent for their "medical" business that the Patriots also direct their players to in spite of the scumbag being busted twice for selling snake oil. It's a blatant end run around the salary cap.
And when your personal medical guru is a fraud who sold millions of dollars selling a phony potion that claimed to cure cancer, MS, AIDs and Parkinson's disease, it's highly improbable that Brady isn't a drug cheat, to go along with being an equipment cheat and his coaches (both Belichick and McDaniel) cheat, Tom Brady is no more a legitimate champ than Lance Armstrong.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)He restructures his contract when the Patriots need to go after it keep impact role players. Don't know whether that is good or bad, but works for him.
MindPilot
(12,693 posts)They have made it perfectly clear that any connection to the city or the fans is completely contrived bullshit.
Most professional sports are nothing more that glorified tribal warfare by proxy wrapped up in a production whose only function is to deliver eyeballs to advertisers.
Ace Rothstein
(3,197 posts)Between state/federal taxes, union dues, pension payments and agent fees he is probably looking at close to 60% of his salary being eaten up.
calguy
(5,346 posts)but I'd gladly take 60% of 25 mliion
dembotoz
(16,864 posts)Baclava
(12,047 posts)1. Giancarlo Stanton, $325,000,000 (2015-27)
2. Alex Rodriguez, $275,000,000 (2008-17)
3. Alex Rodriguez, $252,000,000 (2001-10)
4. Miguel Cabrera, $248,000,000 (2016-23)
5. Albert Pujols, $240,000,000 (2012-21)
Robinson Cano, $240,000,000 (2014-23)
7. Joey Votto, $225,000,000 (2014-23)
8. David Price, $217,000,000 (2016-22)
9. Clayton Kershaw, $215,000,000 (2014-20)
10. Prince Fielder, $214,000,000 (2012-20)
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/league-info/highest-paid-players/
melm00se
(4,997 posts)worldwide (according to Forbes):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes%27_list_of_world%27s_highest-paid_athletes#2017_list
I have no problem with athletes making this kind of money as the players are getting a good chunk of the money that they draw in for the owners. If the players weren't paid at these levels, the money would go straight into the owners' pockets.
ileus
(15,396 posts)Throck
(2,520 posts)Privileged frat boys.