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NFL Quarterback signs largest deal in NFL History :25 million a year, for 5 years (Original Post) Stuart G Jun 2017 OP
Compared to some A-listers in Hollywood BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #1
And when the Raiders move here to Vegas in a coupla years he won't have to pay state income tax. malchickiwick Jun 2017 #2
And stadium and team owners wonder why they're not selling out anymore. Initech Jun 2017 #3
And of course most don't attend alone, so the cost multiplies if couples/families go together. nt tblue37 Jun 2017 #6
They do sell out often NobodyHere Jun 2017 #23
Warren Sapp to donate his brain to concussion research HAB911 Jun 2017 #4
Seems fair for a very small earning window and labor that wrecks your body and mind. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2017 #5
Fair is both relative and irrelevant to a free market. LanternWaste Jun 2017 #13
Good point. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2017 #20
Not bad, now to get those Rings. ileus Jun 2017 #7
It's revolting, but it's interesting to me how NFL owners don't get as much scrutiny... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #8
Good player but he'll probably face some criticism next season Awsi Dooger Jun 2017 #9
I fully expect dallas to have a setback year this season. ileus Jun 2017 #10
Good luck with that! roscoeroscoe Jun 2017 #14
Not going to happen LOL snooper2 Jun 2017 #16
he is going to need it to pay for his medical bills down the road for tbi, and assorted niyad Jun 2017 #11
Injury Prone erpowers Jun 2017 #12
The Patriots give Brady and his scam artist business partner mythology Jun 2017 #21
Brady was once the second highest paid. Blue_true Jun 2017 #25
To hell with the NFL MindPilot Jun 2017 #15
Still a ton of money but I bet he see less than 40% of that. Ace Rothstein Jun 2017 #17
I don't know about you calguy Jun 2017 #27
can you imagine what a good quarter back is gonna get? dembotoz Jun 2017 #18
That's nothing, have U seen baseball contracts? a blister on the finger, sit on the bench for a week Baclava Jun 2017 #19
highest paid athletes melm00se Jun 2017 #22
We had at least 500 bucks invested in one Cleveland Indian game last week. ileus Jun 2017 #24
About as mysoginst a bunch of aholes as you can find out there. Throck Jun 2017 #26

BumRushDaShow

(129,913 posts)
1. Compared to some A-listers in Hollywood
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:36 PM
Jun 2017

who used to get close to that *per film* 20 years ago, this is nothing.

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
2. And when the Raiders move here to Vegas in a coupla years he won't have to pay state income tax.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:36 PM
Jun 2017

Yep, a shi*ton of money, but that's today's NFL.

Initech

(100,132 posts)
3. And stadium and team owners wonder why they're not selling out anymore.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:38 PM
Jun 2017

Players are making obscene salaries and the the owners in order to be able to pay them are jacking ticket prices so high that nobody can afford to go to the games anymore! It's a direct economic cause and effect. I mean shit, I'm an Angels fan. I recently found a ticket stub from 2007. My seat then was $32. I saw a ticket stub for the same seat this year - $110!!! And if they're playing the Yankees, Dodgers, or Red Sox, that price gets jacked up to $175!! Shit, who can afford to go to the games anymore when tickets are that high?

tblue37

(65,527 posts)
6. And of course most don't attend alone, so the cost multiplies if couples/families go together. nt
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:45 PM
Jun 2017

HAB911

(8,934 posts)
4. Warren Sapp to donate his brain to concussion research
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:42 PM
Jun 2017

Boycott the fuckers

TAMPA — Since being elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame on the first ballot four years ago, Warren Sapp has traveled each August to Canton, Ohio, to join the game's greats returning for induction ceremonies. But with each passing year, it seemed too many of his fellow NFL players were in failing health and slipping further into a fog as a result of head injuries sustained during their careers."I said, 'I can't do this. I can't stay on the sideline and watch Tony Dorsett and Willie Brown and all the great ones deteriorate before my eyes,' " Sapp told the Tampa Bay Times on Tuesday.

That why the 44-year-old former defensive tackle, one of the most successful players in Bucs history, announced Tuesday that he is pledging his brain to the Concussion Legacy Foundation and is advocating to eliminate youth tackle football until players are in high school.

In a first-person story and three-minute video at the Players' Tribune, Sapp detailed some of his own problems with memory loss and says he needs to set reminders on his phone for everyday activities because he can't remember things the way he used to.

Sapp said he was motivated to speak out after reading quotes from NFL owners denying a connection between football and concussions, CTE and suicide.

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/warren-sapp-to-donate-his-brain-to-concussion-research/2327891

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,500 posts)
5. Seems fair for a very small earning window and labor that wrecks your body and mind.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:42 PM
Jun 2017

If it were too much, the team wouldn't pay it.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
13. Fair is both relative and irrelevant to a free market.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 02:59 PM
Jun 2017

Fair is both relative and irrelevant to a free market.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,859 posts)
8. It's revolting, but it's interesting to me how NFL owners don't get as much scrutiny...
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:55 PM
Jun 2017

... about their incomes.

Even Mike Brown, owner of the lowly Bengals, is worth about a billion dollars!

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
9. Good player but he'll probably face some criticism next season
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 02:03 PM
Jun 2017

The Raiders are extremely likely to bounce and not come close to current projections for 2017. The sports media is somehow touting them as New England's chief threat in the AFC. But that ignores the NFL reality of a team regressing toward the prior level if the win total jumped or declined 3+ games a year earlier. Oakland is actually bucking a double dose because the victory total bumped from 3 to 7 and then 12. It is considerably easier to sustain a jump from 3 to 7 than 7 to 12.

Besides, the 2016 Raiders were one of the great frauds in recent NFL history. Their point differential was pedestrian considering how many games they won, and the vital category of Yards Per Pass Attempt Differential revealed a net negative of -.9. For reference, Atlanta led the league at +2.0 while New England was second at +1.4. Those were obviously the two Super Bowl representatives.

It is very likely Oakland would have flopped in the playoffs even if Carr had remained healthy:
http://mule.he.net/~budsport/pub/killer.php

Anyway, with the salary cap projected to rise stage by stage there have been estimates of this type of quarterback increase. Instead of $17 to $22 million at the top I've read many articles from salary cap experts that $22 to $28 million will be the new standard, once the next wave of top tier guys are due the next contract. This is the first verification that they are correct.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
16. Not going to happen LOL
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 03:24 PM
Jun 2017



Oh, and screw the Redscabs...we will peel them back n' watch em' bleed LOL

niyad

(113,792 posts)
11. he is going to need it to pay for his medical bills down the road for tbi, and assorted
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 02:12 PM
Jun 2017

other conditions.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
12. Injury Prone
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 02:13 PM
Jun 2017

I have two problems with this deal. I could be wrong, but I think Carr is injury prone. I am not sure he has been able to make it through a full season and the playoffs.

Also, contracts like this are bad for the salary cap. The article mentioned a number of other young quarterbacks who signed big deal and then did not live up to the hype. It might be that the reason these young quarterbacks struggled after getting big contracts is that their big contracts prevented the team from building around the young quarterbacks. The article also pointed out that the Raiders would now have to make hard decisions about which other players to keep and let go. It is possible this new Carr deal will make the team worse because it might be hard for the team get and keep good role players.

Recently, I heard a radio sports show host say Tom Brady has never been the highest paid quarterback in the NFL. That may, or may not be true, but Tom Brady has five NFL championship rings. Maybe it is a better to take less pay in order to allow the team to bring in good players so the team can win championships.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
21. The Patriots give Brady and his scam artist business partner
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 03:57 PM
Jun 2017

A sweetheart deal on rent for their "medical" business that the Patriots also direct their players to in spite of the scumbag being busted twice for selling snake oil. It's a blatant end run around the salary cap.

And when your personal medical guru is a fraud who sold millions of dollars selling a phony potion that claimed to cure cancer, MS, AIDs and Parkinson's disease, it's highly improbable that Brady isn't a drug cheat, to go along with being an equipment cheat and his coaches (both Belichick and McDaniel) cheat, Tom Brady is no more a legitimate champ than Lance Armstrong.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
25. Brady was once the second highest paid.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 09:46 PM
Jun 2017

He restructures his contract when the Patriots need to go after it keep impact role players. Don't know whether that is good or bad, but works for him.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
15. To hell with the NFL
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 03:13 PM
Jun 2017

They have made it perfectly clear that any connection to the city or the fans is completely contrived bullshit.

Most professional sports are nothing more that glorified tribal warfare by proxy wrapped up in a production whose only function is to deliver eyeballs to advertisers.

Ace Rothstein

(3,197 posts)
17. Still a ton of money but I bet he see less than 40% of that.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 03:31 PM
Jun 2017

Between state/federal taxes, union dues, pension payments and agent fees he is probably looking at close to 60% of his salary being eaten up.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
19. That's nothing, have U seen baseball contracts? a blister on the finger, sit on the bench for a week
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 03:33 PM
Jun 2017

1. Giancarlo Stanton, $325,000,000 (2015-27)
2. Alex Rodriguez, $275,000,000 (2008-17)
3. Alex Rodriguez, $252,000,000 (2001-10)
4. Miguel Cabrera, $248,000,000 (2016-23)
5. Albert Pujols, $240,000,000 (2012-21)
… Robinson Cano, $240,000,000 (2014-23)
7. Joey Votto, $225,000,000 (2014-23)
8. David Price, $217,000,000 (2016-22)
9. Clayton Kershaw, $215,000,000 (2014-20)
10. Prince Fielder, $214,000,000 (2012-20)

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/league-info/highest-paid-players/

melm00se

(4,997 posts)
22. highest paid athletes
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 03:57 PM
Jun 2017

worldwide (according to Forbes):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes%27_list_of_world%27s_highest-paid_athletes#2017_list

I have no problem with athletes making this kind of money as the players are getting a good chunk of the money that they draw in for the owners. If the players weren't paid at these levels, the money would go straight into the owners' pockets.

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