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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 05:01 PM Jun 2017

"We don't want socialized healthcare"


How many times have you heard..."government take over"..."socialism"...from opponents to a single payer system?

What these dumbasses fail to comprehend, either from stupidity or willful ignorance, is that private insurance and all insurance is a socialistic model. Everyone pays in for the good of all.

The only difference between public and private insurance is that private insurance skims off those pay-ins (our premiums and other fees) so that they can exisit and pay their CEO's mega millions.

People are so stupid that they are willing to risk their health and life savings defending the profiteers.



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Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. The Health Care and Insurance Lobby
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 05:08 PM
Jun 2017

most likely owns 75% of our Congress. So this is a mute issues at this time. Love to see it,but until our Corporate Owned Politicians put Country first over their personal interests,it ain't going to happen.
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Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. Talking about on the National level.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 05:35 PM
Jun 2017

Hoping California residents get active and make this happen. Living in Nevada,we will be next otherwise we lose our newly created Jobs back to California.

haele

(12,650 posts)
8. In Canada, "Socialized Medicine" started in one Province, then quickly expand to others.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 05:54 PM
Jun 2017

By the time it was made official, all the Provinces had either gotten together to pool their services, or implemented similar enough programs that the Canadian government could work out a way to standardize and oversee their Medicare program and save even more money for the average Canadian.

You can still purchase supplemental Health care if you want special treatment that isn't covered, but every health care (critical and maintenance) and wellness service has been negotiated with ***private and public health entities***, and is covered by the Canadian system. The main problem with Canadian health care that I've noticed is that rural areas (of which there are a lot of rural communities) do not always have enough health care equipment and support available for people with disabilities or in cases where there is a significant rise in people requiring specialized services (like disease or injury even clusters). (On edit) - This is also a problem in U.S. rural areas, where people also have to travel long distances or wait significant amounts of time to get the services they need now. The primary difference is that in rural Canada, they at least have emergency services fairly close, and they won't get turned away or told "you/your wife can't have that emergency procedure" because the only emergency facility within 200 sq. miles is a religious clinic and doesn't do that particular procedure.

It also doesn't cost an arm and a leg to get into the Medical field in Canada. So a Doctor (or Nurse) doesn't have to have the stress of paying off hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years in student loans, like they do down here.

Y'know, if Blue Cross/Blue Shield hadn't become such a cynical everything for-profit entity - if it had remained a "non-profit" organization instead of abandoning their core focus for higher profit margins in the 1980's, that company could have been in on the ground floor. (They were stripped of their "not for profit" status in California in 2014 after decades of middleman skimming services from the "cheap" employer plans and individual patient plans they provided).


Haele

pandr32

(11,581 posts)
3. I haven't heard many socialist or "commie" slurs of late
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 05:16 PM
Jun 2017

...particularly since Russia is now okay in the eyes of those right-wing numbskulls. Besides, we now have a take-over of our government by oligarchs and Russian affiliates, and not a peep out of those who railed against our government before. At least now there is little chance tax dollars will go to aid ordinary Americans who are in need (AKA freeloaders)

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
5. They should look at the stats from countries with socialized healthcare.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 05:37 PM
Jun 2017

Their citizens live longer and are healthier and happier.

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